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Old 24 April 2009, 04:56 PM
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Question Will this Spruce tree damage my house?

A few years ago i planted a little Spruce tree very near my house. It is now taller than my house and only about 5 foot away. Will it cause any damage to the foundations etc?

I didn't know if i should chop it down now or leave it be. I have a woodland garden planted under it and it and everything...


Should it stay or should it go?

Anyone?

Old 24 April 2009, 04:57 PM
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Please don't mention the lead cladding....i know


And i have posted in the wrong forum

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Thanks for moving it
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..........Timber!
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Its got to go hasn't it?
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Thanks for moving it
You're welcome
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Yes and No, as if it goes what will I be able to climb up to watch you get undressed

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Originally Posted by DCI Gene Hunt
Yes and No, as if it goes what will I be able to climb up to watch you get undressed

I am more worried about where i will hang my bird feeders


I am growing a clematis up the house, you can still use that
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Originally Posted by sarasquares
I am growing a clematis up the house, you can still use that
Well that's that then...... out with the axe!
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Originally Posted by DCI Gene Hunt
Well that's that then...... out with the axe!

hairy axe wound
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lop it about windowsill height, it will go bushier, and stunt it's growth, if it gets too bushy just trim back,
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Originally Posted by sarasquares
I am more worried about where i will hang my bird feeders


I am growing a clitoris up the house, you can still use that
Bloody hell, you can buy anything these days!
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Originally Posted by sarasquares
hairy axe wound
.... wound, looks more like a gash to me!
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Your house looks a bit pink to me....
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Originally Posted by cookstar
Your house looks a bit pink to me....
Not as pink as some I've seen on here!
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Ask that guy with the canal boat to help you remove it

An operation of this scale needs to be videoed though, pictures will not suffice.
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Originally Posted by cookstar
Your house looks a bit pink to me....


Your the one with the pink house as i remember


Want to buy some used graffix?


I leave you lot alone with my Spruce and look what happens
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Originally Posted by ScoobyDriverWannabe
Ask that guy with the canal boat to help you remove it

An operation of this scale needs to be videoed though, pictures will not suffice.


I will ask scoobychick to help remove it
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Its roots could damage your foundations and the reduction in ground water may cause the house to sink and crack walls. It has to go. But I'm not an architect.
However my understanding was if you build a house near a tree leave as the ground will remain constant, but never plant a tree near an existing property.
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wheres the rocking horse gone ???
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I think you are wiser to take it out, could prove very expensive in the future.

Yes-what about the rocking horse!

Les
Old 26 April 2009, 11:35 AM
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Follwoing up on the R32's answer. (The only useful one). It depends on what soil you have. If its Clay or silty, Remove or stunt its growth, as it will dry the soil out and cause sinkage. Sand or Loam shuldn't be a problem as Spuce are not the thirstiest of suckers!!!. If you are in a consevation area you may be to late though, as its looks to be bigger in grith than 4 inches at 3ft in height, and will have an automatic TPO.

Oh by the way I have a Nat. Dip in Arboriculture, so I do know what I am talking about.
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Originally Posted by SVXNUT
Follwoing up on the R32's answer. (The only useful one). It depends on what soil you have. If its Clay or silty, Remove or stunt its growth, as it will dry the soil out and cause sinkage. Sand or Loam shuldn't be a problem as Spuce are not the thirstiest of suckers!!!. If you are in a consevation area you may be to late though, as its looks to be bigger in grith than 4 inches at 3ft in height, and will have an automatic TPO.

Oh by the way I have a Nat. Dip in Arboriculture, so I do know what I am talking about.

I planted the tree myself about 8ish years ago. I wanted to create a woodland garden in the front. I didn't realise it would grow so fast



The soil is clay. The tree belongs to me so it cant have a TPO


Anyway, how big could the tree get?


Oh, this weekend we managed to cut through the cable for the tv, pc, and telephone when planting a 'small' tree. What sort of idiots run the cable through a front garden and not the boundary
An engineer is coming out on Wednesday. Luckily my boyfriend has managed to bridge the wires so we have service
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Give your local council a call to ask if there is a TPO on it (has nothing to do with who planted it) but there probably isn't. Then you MUST check to see if you need planning permission to cut it down, again most planning officers are very helpful here. Do NOT remove the tree until you have checked this out. If you do need planning permission then you will have to pay and apply, but considering the location of the tree ( not a good one !) permission would be granted.

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Originally Posted by jbl
Give your local council a call to ask if there is a TPO on it (has nothing to do with who planted it) but there probably isn't. Then you MUST check to see if you need planning permission to cut it down, again most planning officers are very helpful here. Do NOT remove the tree until you have checked this out. If you do need planning permission then you will have to pay and apply, but considering the location of the tree ( not a good one !) permission would be granted.

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I do not live in a conservation area so an order would not apply to me as far as i know.

The tree branches scrape my bedroom window when its windy, scares the pants off me
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The Conservation area has nothing to do with it I'm afraid. A TPO can be granted for lots of reasons--species of tree--age--location--ambience created etc. Your Spruce is not at all likely to have one but you need to check. The Planning issue is the vital bit !
Oh yes.. please get a professional to remove it, don't try DIY !

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Sarah, we are having issues with a massive Beech tree in front of the house, it bunged the insurance up as we spotted a crack, wife rang insurance who did a survey and doubled our premium, they are now hiking it again (over a grand now) so I have rung the council five times to try to speak to someone about getting it cut back as this is a stipulation so we can actually ge tthe insurance but the council, so far hav ebeen useless, we asked them several years ago and they did nothing, I am ringing everyday, I may cancel my council tax direct debit to make a point and say they can have it when they sort the bloody tree.

So, just get rid of it, you planted it, sod any preservation order which i doubt will exist, I also doubt anyone will notice, least of all the council.

What you do need to watch for is heave which can happen if you remove a tree, google it, I think you will be ok with a small one like that.
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Sarah -more info here:

Naturenet: Tree Preservation Orders

Spent two hours clearing (with evil brushcutter) about 40 x 20ft (and up to 8ft high) of thick brambles yesterday and I'm now fecked! Really opens up the garden though. Not going to lawn it though as mowing already takes well over an hour (then strimming on top!)!

Not sure about everyone else but our garden is looking really nice after being shabby all Winter. Grass has grown, bluebells and all sorts are out and the apple trees are all in blossom. Gay sounding but pleasant to look at.
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Gardenlaw is quite a good reference.

AIUI you would have been notified if a tree preservation order was imposed.

There is a table of safe planting distances, but Spruce is not included.
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Originally Posted by J4CKO
Sarah, we are having issues with a massive Beech tree in front of the house, it bunged the insurance up as we spotted a crack, wife rang insurance who did a survey and doubled our premium, they are now hiking it again (over a grand now) so I have rung the council five times to try to speak to someone about getting it cut back as this is a stipulation so we can actually ge tthe insurance but the council, so far hav ebeen useless, we asked them several years ago and they did nothing, I am ringing everyday, I may cancel my council tax direct debit to make a point and say they can have it when they sort the bloody tree.

So, just get rid of it, you planted it, sod any preservation order which i doubt will exist, I also doubt anyone will notice, least of all the council.

What you do need to watch for is heave which can happen if you remove a tree, google it, I think you will be ok with a small one like that.

Thats pretty much what i am thinking, sod it, i planted it so i can cut it down

I would keep it if i knew it would do no damage but i have no idea what type of Spruce it is. I would have thought different varieties would have different growing habits. I always thought that fir type trees had shallow roots so would not interfere with the foundations.

Does anyone know how high these things can grow?


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