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07 April 2009, 09:08 AM
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1984 was so true.
Prehaps a refresher on V for Vendetta would be a good idea
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07 April 2009, 10:03 AM
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It has been slid in quietly like all the other nasty little laws over the years that they have got in or tried to.
As Mart said, it is an indication of their real agenda, all to come together at some future time when we will be all trussed up at their complete mercy!
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As Mart said, it is an indication of their real agenda, all to come together at some future time when we will be all trussed up at their complete mercy!
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07 April 2009, 10:14 AM
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It is interesting as things like the new extreme **** law come into force (here: Deviants, perverts, 'weirdos' - who's going down? ? The Register) that in theory they could just look through the logs at your ISP for a set of sites and then you are caught. Or at least, they have a series of suspects to investigate further.
Nothing to hide, nothing to fear is true in theory, but in my example I can guarantee that I have visited some dubious sites as they get linked whilst looking for things like cracking iPhones and computer software.
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Nothing to hide, nothing to fear is true in theory, but in my example I can guarantee that I have visited some dubious sites as they get linked whilst looking for things like cracking iPhones and computer software.
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07 April 2009, 10:17 AM
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By looking at this thread, let alone responding to it, you're potentially now marked/segmented.
This is by far the greatest threat to our freedom that we face and its abuse scares the **** out of me.
This is by far the greatest threat to our freedom that we face and its abuse scares the **** out of me.
07 April 2009, 11:05 AM
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This is scary - I thought we lived in a democracy - a free country.
I am all for stopping pedos and the likes, but please god, can't we do anything these days without it being recorded, monitored or watched....?
What is really worrying is that the Government can't even keep safe the records they already hold on us.....................
How long before we see headlines telling us some z-list celeb has been viewing some **** site and some jumped up little tw@t in Whitehall has got a good pension selling the details........
Will the last one out turn the lights off?
I am all for stopping pedos and the likes, but please god, can't we do anything these days without it being recorded, monitored or watched....?
What is really worrying is that the Government can't even keep safe the records they already hold on us.....................
How long before we see headlines telling us some z-list celeb has been viewing some **** site and some jumped up little tw@t in Whitehall has got a good pension selling the details........
Will the last one out turn the lights off?
07 April 2009, 11:33 AM
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Seems like the Bill are intending to keep all the DNA samples from babies, children and innocent people until they are 100 years old. Even though the EU court has ruled that its illegal and that the retention is "not compatible with a modern Democracy". There are also at least 6 major Government databases which the court of human rights is seriously concerned about.
Only in the UK.
The Tories have publicly stated that ID cards and the DNA thing will be binned if they get in. Whilst all parties make wild claims before being elected I cant see them not being able to follow up with action as their stance has been so public.
See stop the database state » NO2ID
Whether youve done nothing wrong and have nothing to fear or not you should all be concerned about the erosion of civil liberties. Many of us lost family members in the fight to retain freedoms, what would they say about this big brother society. Its a fact that we are the most spied on and recorded citizens in the world. Far worse that the Stazi in East Germany.
The number of local Governments who are using Teroroist legislation to tap phones and spy on rate payers for putting bins out early, putting the wrong type of rubbish in bins, letting dogs foul etc etc is growing fast.
Only in the UK.
The Tories have publicly stated that ID cards and the DNA thing will be binned if they get in. Whilst all parties make wild claims before being elected I cant see them not being able to follow up with action as their stance has been so public.
See stop the database state » NO2ID
Whether youve done nothing wrong and have nothing to fear or not you should all be concerned about the erosion of civil liberties. Many of us lost family members in the fight to retain freedoms, what would they say about this big brother society. Its a fact that we are the most spied on and recorded citizens in the world. Far worse that the Stazi in East Germany.
The number of local Governments who are using Teroroist legislation to tap phones and spy on rate payers for putting bins out early, putting the wrong type of rubbish in bins, letting dogs foul etc etc is growing fast.
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07 April 2009, 12:04 PM
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I think the aim of the bill is to criminalise *everybody*. Anyone who uses the internet will have no doubt seen material (either by accident or design) of a dubious nature at some point or other. Basically if you get arrested by the police and they can't charge you with anything, they'll just flick through your browsing history and nail you as a subversive or sexual deviant.
The Extreme **** Law is a complete joke & criminalises a large amount of people on the extremely slim pretext that they are a danger to others, which, for a vast majority of cases is complete & utter garbage. The existing Obscene Publications Act was perfectly adequate and the new law is just another in long line of knee-jerk reaction legislation.
We are now not too far away from a situation where every single person in the country is a criminal in the eyes of 'the law'.
Anyway, I'd better not type any more I think a tear gas grenade has just come through the window !
The Extreme **** Law is a complete joke & criminalises a large amount of people on the extremely slim pretext that they are a danger to others, which, for a vast majority of cases is complete & utter garbage. The existing Obscene Publications Act was perfectly adequate and the new law is just another in long line of knee-jerk reaction legislation.
We are now not too far away from a situation where every single person in the country is a criminal in the eyes of 'the law'.
Anyway, I'd better not type any more I think a tear gas grenade has just come through the window !
07 April 2009, 01:07 PM
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The reason this is being done is to give all you conspiracy theorist nut-jobs something else to be dstracted by..whilst they secretly plot the end of the human race....oh no thats another conspiracy!!
07 April 2009, 01:19 PM
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Is this NSR or Conspiracy Planet - The Alternative News & History Network
We may as well start merger talks
07 April 2009, 01:33 PM
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07 April 2009, 01:37 PM
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07 April 2009, 01:43 PM
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I, for one, would like to see everyone (and I mean everyone - pikeys included!) have their DNA taken and stored on a DataBase, fingerprints taken and ID Cards Issued (Free!) ..... I would, honestly, be at the front of the queue.
Just imagine how peaceful and crime free the country would be? Crimes solved, huge sentences dished out and a calm descends over the land .... I genuinely think it would improve everyones life.
Just imagine how peaceful and crime free the country would be? Crimes solved, huge sentences dished out and a calm descends over the land .... I genuinely think it would improve everyones life.
07 April 2009, 01:48 PM
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Hey, lets make life difficult for em!
I think this proposal belongs in the Bin; it is Laden with problems and is killing our right to privacy! I wonder what our prime minister Gordon Brown thinks of this? He'd join the public in demanding that this nonsense be stopped now
Still we have nothing to fear, the government will only loose it!
Oh, there is someone at the door............................................
I think this proposal belongs in the Bin; it is Laden with problems and is killing our right to privacy! I wonder what our prime minister Gordon Brown thinks of this? He'd join the public in demanding that this nonsense be stopped now
Still we have nothing to fear, the government will only loose it!
Oh, there is someone at the door............................................
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07 April 2009, 01:54 PM
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Hey, lets make life difficult for em!
I think this proposal belongs in the Bin; it is Laden with problems and is killing out right to privacy! I wonder what our prime minister Gordon Brown thinks of this? He'd join the public in demanding that this nonsense be stopped now
Still we have nothing to fear, the government will only loose it!
Oh, there is someone at the door............................................
I think this proposal belongs in the Bin; it is Laden with problems and is killing out right to privacy! I wonder what our prime minister Gordon Brown thinks of this? He'd join the public in demanding that this nonsense be stopped now
Still we have nothing to fear, the government will only loose it!
Oh, there is someone at the door............................................
07 April 2009, 02:04 PM
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I, for one, would like to see everyone (and I mean everyone - pikeys included!) have their DNA taken and stored on a DataBase, fingerprints taken and ID Cards Issued (Free!) ..... I would, honestly, be at the front of the queue.
Just imagine how peaceful and crime free the country would be? Crimes solved, huge sentences dished out and a calm descends over the land .... I genuinely think it would improve everyones life.
Just imagine how peaceful and crime free the country would be? Crimes solved, huge sentences dished out and a calm descends over the land .... I genuinely think it would improve everyones life.
Could I borrow your rose coloured spectacles please???????
I love how positive you are, but it really wouldn't solve more crimes if the police have finger prints, DNA etc.
We gave the police a copy of a bank statement, a photograph & the home address of someone who robbed us - and guess what, they didn't find him (even after popping a note through his door - you know, like the milkman does when your payments are overdue!!!)
They did eventually find him 8 months later - in prison!
So don't get your hopes up that by having all this info they will solve crime cos the real world isn't like that!!
07 April 2009, 02:32 PM
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Nevermind eh
I think Jade Goody's funeral was far more important than all this paranoia.
I think I'll just slope off to watch some 'footy' now. I am after all, a bovine moron, enslaved in unrepayable debt, spied upon constantly and robbed by the corporate kleptocracy at every opportunity.
Liberty, freedom, self determination self responsibility, sound money, fairness and ethics in politics?
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I think Jade Goody's funeral was far more important than all this paranoia.
I think I'll just slope off to watch some 'footy' now. I am after all, a bovine moron, enslaved in unrepayable debt, spied upon constantly and robbed by the corporate kleptocracy at every opportunity.
Liberty, freedom, self determination self responsibility, sound money, fairness and ethics in politics?
PAH
07 April 2009, 02:55 PM
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Nevermind eh
I think Jade Goody's funeral was far more important than all this paranoia.
I think I'll just slope off to watch some 'footy' now. I am after all, a bovine moron, enslaved in unrepayable debt, spied upon constantly and robbed by the corporate kleptocracy at every opportunity.
Liberty, freedom, self determination self responsibility, sound money, fairness and ethics in politics?
PAH
I think Jade Goody's funeral was far more important than all this paranoia.
I think I'll just slope off to watch some 'footy' now. I am after all, a bovine moron, enslaved in unrepayable debt, spied upon constantly and robbed by the corporate kleptocracy at every opportunity.
Liberty, freedom, self determination self responsibility, sound money, fairness and ethics in politics?
PAH
07 April 2009, 03:24 PM
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Yep Clarkson got it right.
Truth is folks as this stuff picks up pace and people do start pulling their heads out of their ***** (and each others) it will hit us like a tsunami.
You will wake up one day and think "f**k me! I don't recognise this place anymore!!!" - any civility will be blown to oblivion as one false flag a many, media whoring and various other "new world order... global blahdy blah blah" isht results in the Crookerment implementing full blown martial law.
It's just a giant puzzle, they put in all the pieces one by one, we the people don't take notice because most of this stuff is off the radar or as Scooby said "goes on under our noses" we are too fecking lazy to do anything about it.
Bring it on, better sooner than later
Truth is folks as this stuff picks up pace and people do start pulling their heads out of their ***** (and each others) it will hit us like a tsunami.
You will wake up one day and think "f**k me! I don't recognise this place anymore!!!" - any civility will be blown to oblivion as one false flag a many, media whoring and various other "new world order... global blahdy blah blah" isht results in the Crookerment implementing full blown martial law.
It's just a giant puzzle, they put in all the pieces one by one, we the people don't take notice because most of this stuff is off the radar or as Scooby said "goes on under our noses" we are too fecking lazy to do anything about it.
Bring it on, better sooner than later
