Notices
Non Scooby Related Anything Non-Scooby related

Any chemistry experts out there?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 24 March 2009, 06:26 PM
  #1  
tanyatriangles
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
iTrader: (2)
 
tanyatriangles's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: l'on n'y peut rien
Posts: 2,922
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Any chemistry experts out there?

My youngest has just sent me this, he's supposed to have it done by tomorrow, but has left it. He can do all the rest of his questions but this one stumps him.
Anyone help?

TIA


Experiment [A] (mol L-1) [B] (mol L -1) Initial rate ( mol L-1s-1)
1,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, 1.6,,,,,,,,,,,, 3.4,,,,,,,,,,,, 3*10-4
2,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, 1.6,,,,,,,,,,,, 6.8,,,,,,,,,,,, 9*10-4
3,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, 3.2,,,,,,,,,,,, 3.4,,,,,,,,,,,,, 3*10-4

Determine the order of the reaction with respect to compound B, explain how you have reached your conclusion.

Sorry about the commas, I'm trying to get it to line up with the columns


Determine the order of the reaction with respect to compound B, explain how you have reached your conclusion.
[/COLOR]

Last edited by tanyatriangles; 24 March 2009 at 06:30 PM.
Old 24 March 2009, 07:02 PM
  #2  
speedking
Scooby Regular
 
speedking's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Warrington
Posts: 4,554
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Not an expert, but try this HTH.
Old 24 March 2009, 07:40 PM
  #3  
PG
Scooby Regular
 
PG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Perthshire
Posts: 6,396
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

According to Mrs PG (Chemistry teacher):

The order with respect to B is 1.5
The following rules are followed:
When the concentration is doubled and the rate of reaction stays the same the order is 0 (as with reactant A).
When the concentration is double and the rate of reaction doubles the order is 1.
When the concentration is doubled and the rate of reaction increases fourfold then the order is 2.
In this reaction the concentration of B is doubled and the rate of reaction increases threefold therefore the rate of reaction must be 1.5.

She doesn't condone cheating though as long as he reads it, takes it in and understands it she's happy to help

Paul & LJ
Old 25 March 2009, 01:46 AM
  #4  
speedking
Scooby Regular
 
speedking's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Warrington
Posts: 4,554
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

May I guess 1.585.

The concentration of A does not affect the reaction. A^n is a constant, so n must = 0.
A^0 is always =1 so ignore.
Therefore rate = k B^m
Rate triples as B doubles.
r = k B^m and 3r = k (2B)^m
multiply left expression by 3
3r = 3 k B^m and 3r = k 2^m B^m
so 3 k B^m = k 2^m B^m
divide both sides by k B^m
3 = 2^m
so m = 1.585
QED
Happy to be proved wrong as IANAC.
Old 25 March 2009, 09:58 AM
  #5  
tanyatriangles
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
iTrader: (2)
 
tanyatriangles's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: l'on n'y peut rien
Posts: 2,922
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Thanks for all replies: we got 1.5, but he's going to get it explained this morning.

Amazing what you can find out on this site, isn't it ?
Old 05 April 2009, 09:02 PM
  #6  
my06 ppp silver
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (2)
 
my06 ppp silver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: liverpool
Posts: 2,440
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

its all fookin gobbledygook to me!!!
Old 06 April 2009, 11:51 PM
  #7  
speedking
Scooby Regular
 
speedking's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Warrington
Posts: 4,554
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

So what was the answer?
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
roysc
ScoobyNet General
2
16 September 2015 09:10 AM
The Joshua Tree
Computer & Technology Related
18
11 September 2015 09:24 PM
PeterJ
ScoobyNet General
1
24 July 2001 05:26 PM
ca
Non Scooby Related
12
06 December 2000 01:58 PM
Dave Bullock
Non Scooby Related
19
17 November 2000 08:50 AM



Quick Reply: Any chemistry experts out there?



All times are GMT +1. The time now is 07:16 AM.