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More than three-quarters – 78 per cent – of British adults believe immigrants should be asked to leave the country if they do not have a job, according to an FT/Harris survey published on Monday. A majority also oppose the right for other European Union citizens to work here.

FT.com / UK - FT poll reveals hostility to jobless migrants

The Zohan

Only 78%, suggest the other 22% who think it is OK actually foot the entire bill/cost for the jobless immigrants themsleves

davegtt

Not all jobless immigrants are skint. Typically again, we just to the conclusion that theyre spongers. My housemates girlfriend has been jobless since October, just started working this last month and during that whole period, didnt claim a penny.

The Zohan

Thats cool, having five months in reserve is great, good on her

How do you feel about those who do not and clime for unemployment, housing, job seekers, etc?

davegtt

I feel like theyre not all like that, again, look at our own people who are claiming the benefits and showing the rest of the world what this country hands out before you blame the others who do it. I think the country has bigger problems.

It'd be interesting to see the figures of those immigrants in the country who are employed and working hard for a living as opposed to those who are not.

greenonedave

The poll should have asked how many people are dismayed by the number of immigrants
here in the first place.

Paul3446

Australia is cutting the amount of skilled immigrants it takes in by 14%, to protect Australian jobs, why can't we do this without being called racist. We can't even cut the number of unskilled scroungers, let alone skilled workers who have a job to go to.

Australia to slash immigration by 14% in battle to save jobs from foreign workers during recession | Mail Online

The Zohan

Because Aus is not in the EU and has some ministers with backbones who give a damn i guess

I have been on both sides, when i worked in Dubai i knew that if i lost my job there was no welfare or place for me there - fair enough, i was not born there and therefore not entitled to benefits.

unclebuck

Not a case of asking them to leave, they should be thrown out., but under unelected Brown's 'government' there is as much chance of that as finding an honest MP. The same goes for the other mainstream parties.

It should be clear from this article alone that government has no intention of abiding by the wishes of most Britons.

If the people can't petition Whitehall to give us what we want, can we please stop calling this country a democracy.

Petem95

I think it's actually 100% of UK citizens want non-working immigrants thrown out the country - the other 22% in the survey are actually non-working immigrants or their relatives!

The government need to get their act together and start deporting them soon people will be voting in a far right party into power who will! (the situation is mirrored across the whole of Europe)

hodgy0_2

to be honest its peanuts in the grand scheme of things

as someone who services and pays off any short / long term debts, what really irks me is all the people walking away from mortgages, credit card debts, bank loans, HPI agreements, leasing agreements, overdrafts etc and on and on

because some of my repayments will be paying their borrowings and this runs into BILLIONS and BILLIONS

The Zohan

So, two wrongs now make a right - brilliant!

OK then, to take this insightful position forward - lets not worry about foreign criminals because we have our own home grown scum already...

Dedrater

imo, if you were not born here you should not be given any state benefits, all that should be provided, per town or city, is one big room/warehouse with running water and a portion of rice per day, if they don't like it they can put there name down for deportation, they should not have the same liberties.

The exception to this rule would be people who have paid adequate tax for X amount of years.

No?

what would scooby do

*brings out the cattle trucks*

Dedrater

Give them time to find a job and all that, aslong as they are not suckling from the UK money pot who cares, but staying in a room with hundreds of other people eating plain rice and water every day would soon get them in gear.

ALi-B

iTrader: (1)

DEY TUK ER JERBS!

Martin2005

'A Kick'?..thats real nice of you fella. I guess that says quite a lot about how you view immigrants.

If these people have worked hard and paid their tax then they should have the same rights as anyone else. Why would anyone think otherwise??

Lisawrx

iTrader: (1)

Martin, tbf, I think he is directing this towards those who haven't paid their tax etc. not just people who are here who have found themselves out of work, when they were previously working and paying into the pot.

I can't speak for him, but regardless of my opinions of all of this, that's how I read his comment.

davegtt

Im sure after World War One there was a political party set up under the name of the ****'s who had similar views, look how far that went....

davegtt

Firstly Dave, where does it say anything about immigrants who are here illegally? Secondly, theres plenty of Brits who could have done it, but WOULD they have done it? We as a nation seem to be a bunch of moaning lazy fcukwits who have no time for anybody else, just because they were born on that other patch of land over the channel.

Leslie

Wouldn't it be better to be a lot more selective about who is allowed to enter the country and for what reason in the first place?

Is it wise to have an open door policy to anyone until there is no more reasonable room left in the country for us all?

Les

tanyatriangles

iTrader: (2)

Exactly.

The UK was one of only THREE EC countries which FULLY implemented the "open door" policy, the other two being Ireland and Sweden, BOTH of whom had low populations and needed the workers.

Even THEY did not allow anyone in, then give them benefits, then give them MORE benefits to send home.

ALL the other EC countries implemented a similar scheme to the following:

"Yes, come if you want, but before you do, first, prove that there is a job for you, second, prove that you have the skills for that job, and third, prove there are no indigenous people who ALSO want that job. If you can't prove all three, don't come."

Now WHY didn't we do that?

And WHY did Lying Labour know best YET AGAIN, whern others were telling them NOT to do what they did, and what would happen if they did?

New_scooby_04

iTrader: (4)

Quite!

Everything else is closing the stable door after the horse has bolted!

Ns04

davegtt

Also quite amusing that some people didnt mind going to another country like Dubai to work for £100k a year tax free then trot back to these ere shores complaining that there are foriegn workers etc etc

davegtt

We choose to have that regime though, not the governments fault if its running a country for mindless idiots who think theyre better than everyone else because they were actually born on this island.

Im sure you could be a camel herder over there but not for £100k a year. Do you think what the immigrants earn over here doesnt get spent in this country then?

The Zohan

LOL!
100k would be nice, whist there you still pay your UK taxes unless out there for more than a complete tax year but do not let the facts get in the way eh dave

Dave, One of the reasons i went to Dubai was because having been self employed i then decided to get back into the UK job market, i even though having paid into the UK system with PAYE, NI, etc since 1980 continuously to 2006 i would be entitled to help when i needed it - Job seekers allowance - Well whilst sat in the joke shop watching a lot of people who spoke little if any Eeensliish get their NI numbers and benefit entitlements pack with all the info on what and how to claim it turned out i was due nothing, no JSA because i had been self employed, even though i had paid my class 1 stamp whilst self employed i did not qualify not show up on NL's stats as unemployed.

I was disgusted and very upset by this and how i was treated and i dare say i am not alone having been born here and paid in to the system continuously since i was 16 years old, only ever been out of work for 6 months during 26 years.

Being born and raised here (and having paid my uk taxes even when abroad) seeing how i was treated i am entltled to bitch all i want Dave, perhaps with some real life experiences the scales may fall from your eyes so you can see what is going on.