Chris.B

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I really do think it's time something is done.

BBC NEWS | England | Bristol | Six people injured as dogs attack

Jamo

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what is it you think needs to be done exactly?

Chris.B

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Stop **** hole's like this getting dog's. He obviously had no control over them.
There needs to be a law in place that stop's 'undesirables' getting hold of any dogs. They brought the dangerous dogs act in, why can't they make a criteria for people owning dogs? And maybe you have to get some form of a licence too?

This is everyday reading now...

Janspeed

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Exactly, the problem lies with the tossers that "own" these dogs..........

Jamo

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so clearly you have thought this through, explain how you would stop these specific types of people owning a dog. how would you decide who would fall into this category of person?

Chris.B

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Maybe people with people or aggressive offences cannot hold a dog licence.
You have to pay for it.
This could be enforced by most official's, cause lets face it 9/10 times the people who have dog's that attack have criminal records so will be no doubt in time spoken to by the police.

This is just my view, anything being done would be better than nothing; Surely?

The Zohan

Sadly the same knee jerk laws will be brought in that curtailed certain types of firearms - most will end up being banned when actually the problem is the people who own them that is often the problem.

I started a thread on this a day or so with some suggestions on for an enforced and policed licencing system which seems like the way forward.

If you think that licencing will not work and cannot be enforced then perhaps the alternative is a ban and existing dogs destroyed, because there are not really any alternatives.

The problems are poor owners who have rights to own what they want but no responsibilities or often give a damn about the dog or potential havoc it could cause.

This is really about status dogs and owners who want a status dogs for the wrong reasons it is their right to own one with ownership comes responsibilities that go along with the dog - caring for, exercising, training, loving, looking after it, those sort of things that take up time and effort!

spireite

Start sending owners to prison if their dog (weapon) attacks

The Zohan

Sad but true we do not even jail those who carry offensive weapons so little chance there then...

Timwinner

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Its a pity it has got to the stage whereby it is almost impossible to control. If only we can have something similar to a shotgun license.
Thoughts of course go to the people who were attacked.

Looker

I agree... let's face it, if, as many claim, it is squarely down to the owner and the dog utterly blameless then surely in the unfortunate occurrence of death, manslaughter charges would be levied

Which kind of suggests that the law doesn't see it the same way as many Staffordshire Bull Terrirer owners, who happily share pictures of their animals "kissing" their infants as if to disprove all unfortunate incidents that ever happened

I accept German Shepherds are the breed in question here... but Staffs are not far away, they never are

Jamo

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I agree with you.

The Zohan

Do you have anything to add then, it is all to easy to critisize or dismiss, tyakes a little thought and effort to be constructive

You could say ot just isn't worth the effort of course

Jamo

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I was agreeing with you on your statement, but it was in reply to "looker" not you.

I hear one of the dogs of that poor kid the other day was a jack russell.

would that be put on the dangerous dogs list as well?

The Zohan

I figured that but i know you can do better!

"What do you think is the answer" is what i am really getting at, whilst i am not a dog owner i have been around them for most of my life, all sorts of dogs, i think you know what my opinions are and what i think is the way forward, maybe not the easiest or the best way but i thibk we are left with little choice...

Looker

Are you talking to me now?

jasey

Not sure why dog licences were abolished but the first thing that needs to happen is to bring them back.

The next is to bring in a licence for having kids.

Properly enforced we should be able to clear up dog attacks on kids, parent attacks on kids and Kids turning out to be complete **** heads.

Everyones a winner.

cster

How about dog free zones?
I would be more than happy to live in one.
I hear they are very popular in China

Jamo

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Honestly, I really dont know as I find myself agreeing with "some" of your opinions but really disagreeing with others. the whole this breed of dog is a killer and this breed of dog isnt, is a crock of **** though.

the only thing I can think of is maybe we need to go back to a dog licence, but one that is used through a registered vet, similar to a car a yearly "mot" must be taken where the vet looks at the dog and see's if its been suitably trained and is safe to be walked in public. maybe every 6 months rather than once a year though. I guess they could look at the suitablity of the owner to the animal too.

The Zohan

Yup - sadly the case, the good owners having to go through the same process, i suppose that is the only way it will work and to find out who is who (so to speak)

spireite

Never argue with idiots, they will beat you with experience and bring you down to their level everytime!


I've seen that as a signature some where

GlesgaKiss

Not a complete crock of ****; different breeds have different natural temperaments and tendencies to behave in certain ways. Although I do agree that upbringing is the main problem...just like their chav kids who wouldn't think twice about sticking a knife in you.

Matteeboy

Mandatory dog training - if your dog can't "pass" certain tests by the age of 1, you can't have it.

Looker

Pointless... just because a dog can sit and walk to heel makes it no more or less likely to have a 'moment'. Try again

GC8

Webclown.

dunx

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Sketchy details, could be a terrified little old dear with a soft spot for strays....

Or a chavved-up crim' with a Subaru

dunx

P.S. At least the injuries weren't truly life threatening.

Jamo

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go away oik.

stara

forget about the alsations, i heard the owner has staffs as well!!!! can we slag the staffs off for 2 or 3 pages as they must have something to do with it, they probably did the attacking and ran off to let the alsations take the blame. he must be a chav, and i remember one time a staff ran past me in the park not on the lead or **** all, the owner may have had a burberry hat in his pocket , and probably was on his way to the offlicence to get some special brew. he probably would have swore at me if he was near enough to me for me to have a go at him for having a devil dog chasing a ball in the park.

Matteeboy

Actually if a dog displays some understanding of commands and discipline, it is MUCH less likely to attack randomly.

The dog that took a large chunk of my face off didn't even know the basic command "STOP SAVAGING THAT CHILD!" (I was 3 at the time).

cookstar

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I would have thought the good/responsible owners would be more that happy to go through this process, especially if it helped to clean up the bad image that some/lots of owners are creating for these animals.