do you think this guy went back for his trainer?
09 February 2009, 01:41 PM
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Just posted my views on the other thread 
Suffice to say, it's a shame there wasn't one coming the other way
Suffice to say, it's a shame there wasn't one coming the other way
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Part of my job is to operate these barriers at times, some of the things I have seen are unbelievable. The one with the car weaving in and out is so common.
I have seen women pushing prams under the barriers, trapping themselves inside, I even saw with my own eyes a woman pushing a pram under the barriers, realised she wouldn't make it and withdrew leaving the baby inside the barriers with her outside.
Someone jumped the barriers outside one of my signalboxes a couple of years ago, and got smashed to pieces.
These ***** have no comprehension of the impact it can have on the lives of those involved, Even near misses can have a driver off work for weeks.
I have seen women pushing prams under the barriers, trapping themselves inside, I even saw with my own eyes a woman pushing a pram under the barriers, realised she wouldn't make it and withdrew leaving the baby inside the barriers with her outside.
Someone jumped the barriers outside one of my signalboxes a couple of years ago, and got smashed to pieces.
These ***** have no comprehension of the impact it can have on the lives of those involved, Even near misses can have a driver off work for weeks.
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It really does amaze me that some people really don't "get" why the lights and barriers are there. They are NOT trying to delay you, or cause you to have a bad day, they are there to protect you. If you ignore this then you may well experience a very bad day indeed.
Unless there is a problem with the lights/barriers (if there are either/any) then if you're hit by a train, I don't have any sympathy for you. If it's an unmanned or barrier/lightless crossing then I'm somewhat more sympathetic, as it may be hard to tell if a train is approaching.
There's a crossing on the line between High Brooms and Tonbridge, and I've always been very, very wary of crossing there. The line does curve, so you don't have great visibility, and it's surrounded by trees, muffling sound. I do stop and listen wether I can hear the rails making any noise, as that can be the sign of a train approaching.
Oh and if there are any types out there who want to see what happens when you ignore the rules, do a search for "traingirl". It's a clip of a couple of people ignoring indications of an approaching train and one of the people pays the ultimate price.
Unless there is a problem with the lights/barriers (if there are either/any) then if you're hit by a train, I don't have any sympathy for you. If it's an unmanned or barrier/lightless crossing then I'm somewhat more sympathetic, as it may be hard to tell if a train is approaching.
There's a crossing on the line between High Brooms and Tonbridge, and I've always been very, very wary of crossing there. The line does curve, so you don't have great visibility, and it's surrounded by trees, muffling sound. I do stop and listen wether I can hear the rails making any noise, as that can be the sign of a train approaching.
Oh and if there are any types out there who want to see what happens when you ignore the rules, do a search for "traingirl". It's a clip of a couple of people ignoring indications of an approaching train and one of the people pays the ultimate price.
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In one of my previous positions I had to work a remote panel with 9 CCTV crossing on, so have seen my fair share of stupidity on these, and deaths.
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Agree with crispduk,the only thing missing was another train coming the other way
These people are idiots and just a wast of blood and organs and deserve to be turned into pink mist.i would then make the parents clean up the mess and clean the train
These people are idiots and just a wast of blood and organs and deserve to be turned into pink mist.i would then make the parents clean up the mess and clean the train
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I'm a relief signaller on the North London Line, one of the locations I have to cover sometimes, has 2 CCTV crossing and one right below the signal box.
In one of my previous positions I had to work a remote panel with 9 CCTV crossing on, so have seen my fair share of stupidity on these, and deaths.
In one of my previous positions I had to work a remote panel with 9 CCTV crossing on, so have seen my fair share of stupidity on these, and deaths.
you get to see some real impatient tw*ts. S&T btw
P.S Must be paying you signallers too much looking at your car
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Oh yeah, I do feel for you guys (kind of
) when I'm drinking my tea in the box watching you on the CCTV, after some **** smacks a boom off. 
What area do you work?
09 February 2009, 05:28 PM
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If anyone has been in Lincoln centre when there are lots of trains on, you can see why people do it: It gridlocks the city centre. They put the barrier down up to 5mins too early on some occasions, then after the five minute wait a train passes, as soon as its gone the barrier goes up. So you think great, hold up over, we're going to move. Nope: 1 minute later down it comes again for another five minutes before a train comes. 
Last time it happened I got out the car and told my mate I'm off for a sandwich at Subway (no I didn't have to run over the level crossing ). By the time he pulled up outside, I had already eaten it and was about to head back.
Still: Level crossings - excellent tool for removing excess feejits from society (although rather unpleasant for the train driver, train passengers and witnesses).
Last time it happened I got out the car and told my mate I'm off for a sandwich at Subway (no I didn't have to run over the level crossing
). By the time he pulled up outside, I had already eaten it and was about to head back. Still: Level crossings - excellent tool for removing excess feejits from society (although rather unpleasant for the train driver, train passengers and witnesses).
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If anyone has been in Lincoln centre when there are lots of trains on, you can see why people do it: It gridlocks the city centre. They put the barrier down up to 5mins too early on some occasions, then after the five minute wait a train passes, as soon as its gone the barrier goes up. So you think great, hold up over, we're going to move. Nope: 1 minute later down it comes again for another five minutes before a train comes.
Last time it happened I got out the car and told my mate I'm off for a sandwich at Subway (no I didn't have to run over the level crossing ). By the time he pulled up outside, I had already eaten it and was about to head back.
Still: Level crossings - excellent tool for removing excess feejits from society (although rather unpleasant for the train driver, train passengers and witnesses).
Last time it happened I got out the car and told my mate I'm off for a sandwich at Subway (no I didn't have to run over the level crossing
). By the time he pulled up outside, I had already eaten it and was about to head back. Still: Level crossings - excellent tool for removing excess feejits from society (although rather unpleasant for the train driver, train passengers and witnesses).
How else are we supposed to get our dinner ready/have a tab or a little nap.
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These people are morons. The one on the news showing the car going across just missing the train by inches made me laugh. I mean the driver I don't think had any comprehension of what they were doing becos they didn't actually speed up at all.
What worries me is these idiots are driving and walking about when I'm on the road.
What worries me is these idiots are driving and walking about when I'm on the road.
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I can understand why people do it,
Its sheer frustration of dropping a barrier and then waiting for ages for a train to
pootle through, followed by the barrier staying down, and another train or 3 coming
through.
Where i live, one set of crossing gates is at the end of the platform, the next is about
200 yards after that!!! (its the ring road) so they drop both sets of barriers
whenever a train comes into the station. Rather than then lift the barrier to allow cars
to flow, they keep the barriers down for as long as the train is in the station...
If several trains arrive, due to delays / timing, the barriers stay down!!!!!!!!!!
You can wait upto 15 mins every time this happens.....
And it does every rush hour!!!
Yet the next crossing is an unmanned one.. max wait time 1-2 minutes...
Pr ehaps if they worked out altering there timing, they may avoid many of the
casualties
Mart
Its sheer frustration of dropping a barrier and then waiting for ages for a train to
pootle through, followed by the barrier staying down, and another train or 3 coming
through.
Where i live, one set of crossing gates is at the end of the platform, the next is about
200 yards after that!!! (its the ring road) so they drop both sets of barriers
whenever a train comes into the station. Rather than then lift the barrier to allow cars
to flow, they keep the barriers down for as long as the train is in the station...
If several trains arrive, due to delays / timing, the barriers stay down!!!!!!!!!!
You can wait upto 15 mins every time this happens.....
And it does every rush hour!!!
Yet the next crossing is an unmanned one.. max wait time 1-2 minutes...
Pr ehaps if they worked out altering there timing, they may avoid many of the
casualties
Mart
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I can understand why people do it,
Its sheer frustration of dropping a barrier and then waiting for ages for a train to
pootle through, followed by the barrier staying down, and another train or 3 coming
through.
Where i live, one set of crossing gates is at the end of the platform, the next is about
200 yards after that!!! (its the ring road) so they drop both sets of barriers
whenever a train comes into the station. Rather than then lift the barrier to allow cars
to flow, they keep the barriers down for as long as the train is in the station...
If several trains arrive, due to delays / timing, the barriers stay down!!!!!!!!!!
You can wait upto 15 mins every time this happens.....
And it does every rush hour!!!
Yet the next crossing is an unmanned one.. max wait time 1-2 minutes...
Pr ehaps if they worked out altering there timing, they may avoid many of the
casualties
Mart
Its sheer frustration of dropping a barrier and then waiting for ages for a train to
pootle through, followed by the barrier staying down, and another train or 3 coming
through.
Where i live, one set of crossing gates is at the end of the platform, the next is about
200 yards after that!!! (its the ring road) so they drop both sets of barriers
whenever a train comes into the station. Rather than then lift the barrier to allow cars
to flow, they keep the barriers down for as long as the train is in the station...
If several trains arrive, due to delays / timing, the barriers stay down!!!!!!!!!!
You can wait upto 15 mins every time this happens.....
And it does every rush hour!!!
Yet the next crossing is an unmanned one.. max wait time 1-2 minutes...
Pr ehaps if they worked out altering there timing, they may avoid many of the
casualties
Mart
Rework the entire passenger and freight timetables to avoid casualties. How about learn some patience and realise we don't lower these barriers for the fun of it. Some are HELD down by the presence of a train, and funnily enough it is to protect the general public, again not just for the fun of it.
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Rework the entire passenger and freight timetables to avoid casualties. How about learn some patience and realise we don't lower these barriers for the fun of it. Some are HELD down by the presence of a train, and funnily enough it is to protect the general public, again not just for the fun of it.Is it like the traffic lights round here, waiting for people to cross, even if there is no one there? V frustrating!
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A few reasons, there is something called an "overlap" which is basically the distance required to be clear if the train SPADS (signal passed at danger) - rare but it happens. Therefore to allow the train into the platform the barriers must be down and clear.
The signaller could most likely wait for this over lap to clear once the train is safely at a stand in the platform, allowing him to raise the gates, however by the time this is done the train will be ready to depart. So the barriers have to come down again, The public see the barriers raise, race towards them only to see them dropping down 30 seconds later, then make a bid to jump the lights/swerve round the barriers as seen in the video clips. Causing massive risk to others and railway infrastructure.
It's safer all round to leave them down.