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Old 31 January 2009, 10:25 PM
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Angry I demand a toilet!

A paedophile is suing a prison for breaching his human rights because there is no loo in his cell.

David Williams, 44, serving life for raping a 13-year-old boy, wants £5,000 damages for a “substandard lifestyle that is endangering his physical and emotional health”. His High Court writ against Exeter jail claims the lack of a toilet means he suffers “degrading and humiliating treatment.”

Williams, who has a history of attacks against children as young as four, also complains because he does not have hot and cold running water. A charity that represents victims said Williams’s claim was disgraceful.

Ed Usher, of Victims’ Voice, said: “The human rights of the victim are never taken into account. These offenders have been put behind bars because they chose to commit the crime.” East Devon MP Hugo Swire said: “I hope that very little time and certainly not too much money is spent on this clearly outrageous attempt to make a mockery of the criminal justice system.”

The Ministry of Justice said: “No prison’s sanitary arrangements breach human rights laws.”

The bar steward wouldn't be able to sit on ANYTHING when I had finished with him
Old 31 January 2009, 10:27 PM
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IMHO,he doesn't have any rights Scum
Old 31 January 2009, 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by The Dogs B******s
IMHO,he doesn't have any rights Scum

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he lost his rights the minute he did what he did, hope he has a room mate called Bubba too
Old 31 January 2009, 10:32 PM
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He has been justly deprived of his liberty, and that should include his freedom to question his treatment.

If I were in charge, prisons would be places NO-ONE would EVER want to return to !
Old 31 January 2009, 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Á¢ïÐ
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he lost his rights the minute he did what he did, hope he has a room mate called Bubba too
this is why we need a punishment to fit the crime fry the bar stew ard very slowly
Old 31 January 2009, 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by corradoboy
He has been justly deprived of his liberty, and that should include his freedom to question his treatment.

If I were in charge, prisons would be places NO-ONE would EVER want to return to !
Well said
Old 31 January 2009, 10:36 PM
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If he wins I hope they serve his dinner in his toilet

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Old 31 January 2009, 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by corradoboy
He has been justly deprived of his liberty, and that should include his freedom to question his treatment.

If I were in charge, prisons would be places NO-ONE would EVER want to return to !
Rubbish like this makes me laugh. What exactly do you think prisons are like? I have a friend and an aquaintance who are prison officers and a very close friend who is a probation officer and between them (and another aquaintance who is a probation officer now but used to be a prison officer) theyre aware of one private prison thats relatively soft. The majority are full of big and nasty men who cry themselves to sleep at night.
Old 31 January 2009, 11:06 PM
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They should be so knackered through hard labour that they don't have the energy to cry and are asleep before their head hits the hard concrete of their windowless cold cell.
Old 31 January 2009, 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by GC8
Rubbish like this makes me laugh. What exactly do you think prisons are like? I have a friend and an aquaintance who are prison officers and a very close friend who is a probation officer and between them (and another aquaintance who is a probation officer now but used to be a prison officer) theyre aware of one private prison thats relatively soft. The majority are full of big and nasty men who cry themselves to sleep at night.
yes prison is such a nasty place nobody ever wants to go back do they
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Old 31 January 2009, 11:08 PM
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In America some of the prisons are absolute hell holes but it doesnt stop people from offending: it just makes them more desperate not to get caught.

Theres a stong lack of thinking in all SN threads like this and ranting about proons being too soft when the people posting couldnt survive them is ridiculous.
Old 31 January 2009, 11:18 PM
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to quote a friend "until you have been in a miliaty prision you have no idea"

after he left the forces and did 4 tours he is now a prison officer. in his words "Prisons are not hard enough anymore"
Old 31 January 2009, 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by GC8

Theres a stong lack of thinking in all SN threads like this and ranting about proons being too soft when the people posting couldnt survive them is ridiculous.
were not the people in them though, its called freedom of speech, something a prisoner shouldent have
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Originally Posted by GC8
Rubbish like this makes me laugh. What exactly do you think prisons are like? I have a friend and an aquaintance who are prison officers and a very close friend who is a probation officer and between them (and another aquaintance who is a probation officer now but used to be a prison officer) theyre aware of one private prison thats relatively soft. The majority are full of big and nasty men who cry themselves to sleep at night.

i'm sure they've earned that right
Old 01 February 2009, 01:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Á¢ïÐ
were not the people in them though, its called freedom of speech, something a prisoner shouldent have
Thats a dangerous route to walk, although it wasnt what I was talking about.
Old 01 February 2009, 08:14 AM
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There's a simple way to solve this guys problem: cut his **** off and seal any resulting "holes" and sew his arsehole shut. I guarantee he won't be bleating about the lack of a toilet.
Old 01 February 2009, 10:40 AM
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They should put him in general population, He would become someone elses toilet then...
Old 01 February 2009, 11:10 AM
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Pass round the communal bucket and stick his head in it!

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Old 01 February 2009, 11:30 AM
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Stories like this should never even become public.
Old 01 February 2009, 11:34 AM
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Perhaps the 5,000 would be better spent on the child he raped!

Perhaps he should have thought of the consequences of his actions before he raped a child.

Does he think prison should be a holiday camp with en suite facilities?

If he wins the money then god help us, he does neither deserve the money nor the right to try to claim it.
Old 01 February 2009, 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by GC8
Rubbish like this makes me laugh. What exactly do you think prisons are like? I have a friend and an aquaintance who are prison officers and a very close friend who is a probation officer and between them (and another aquaintance who is a probation officer now but used to be a prison officer) theyre aware of one private prison thats relatively soft. The majority are full of big and nasty men who cry themselves to sleep at night.
Yes, some prison officers and probation offices turn native in that enviroment as well, also it is just hearsay is it not

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Old 01 February 2009, 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Paul Habgood
Perhaps the 5,000 would be better spent on the child he raped!

Perhaps he should have thought of the consequences of his actions before he raped a child.

Does he think prison should be a holiday camp with en suite facilities?

If he wins the money then god help us, he does neither deserve the money nor the right to try to claim it.
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Old 01 February 2009, 01:58 PM
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well said


Originally Posted by Paul Habgood
Perhaps the 5,000 would be better spent on the child he raped!

Perhaps he should have thought of the consequences of his actions before he raped a child.

Does he think prison should be a holiday camp with en suite facilities?

If he wins the money then god help us, he does neither deserve the money nor the right to try to claim it.
Old 01 February 2009, 02:07 PM
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they should give him the toilet, then drown him in it,
Old 01 February 2009, 02:14 PM
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I thought all cells had toilets anyway?
Old 01 February 2009, 02:44 PM
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I don't consider it to be human, it is filth. Therefore it has no human rights.
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Originally Posted by 84of300
I don't consider it to be human, it is filth. Therefore it has no human rights.
think this said it all 100% agree well said

what happened to the human rights of the child he violated put him in general population lets see how long he would last i wonder how big he will think he is then
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Originally Posted by GC8
In America some of the prisons are absolute hell holes but it doesnt stop people from offending: it just makes them more desperate not to get caught.
true. so, why spend millions on gyms, offering teaching courses etc etc to people who will only go out and do it again?

The whole rehabilitation thing doesn't work. The reoffending rates are the same with and without.

Also, i'm sure that people have won similar court cases in the past. Another case of too many rights and no responsibilities.

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Originally Posted by fivetide

The whole rehabilitation thing doesn't work. The reoffending rates are the same with and without.


Evidence? And not a quote from the Daily Mail either.


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