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Old 28 January 2009, 05:29 PM
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Default Performance Meter: 0-60, G-Force, 'BHP' etc.

Can anyone recommend to me an accessory thatll do the above? Ideally it needs to include a potentiometer as the car that I will use it on preceded OBD2 by fifteen years! I know that Blitz make a device that takes an input from the speed sensor and it extremely accurate (to within 1-2bhp on a 200bhp car, when its set up correctly), but I need something a little more old school (the most advanced connection will be through a cigar lighter)...

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Old 28 January 2009, 05:30 PM
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Nissan do one, you do have a Skyline attached to it though!

I'll have a look and get back
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Lots of apps for the iPhone and iPod touch and it's been said that they're surprisingly accurate.
Old 28 January 2009, 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by JackClark
Lots of apps for the iPhone and iPod touch and it's been said that they're surprisingly accurate.
Interesting, any more info?
Old 28 January 2009, 05:40 PM
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It was an iPod Touch advert that made me think about these. I havent seen anything like it for a good few years, because tapping into the OBD2 port is easier, but there used to be scores of products in the nineties. Id like to achieve this without spending any more money with Apple, if I can.
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Something like this?

G-TECH/Pro Homepage
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Originally Posted by Chris.B
Interesting, any more info?
Hi Chris,

Dynolicious is the best one I have come across so far. If we can find a way of safely securing the phone in the car I am going to try it when we go testing next week at Silverstone.

Come and pay us a visit if you are bored?

Robin

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Old 28 January 2009, 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Jay m A
Something like this?

G-TECH/Pro Homepage
Thats the sort of thing yes, but even at the old exchange rates theyre quite dear. That said theyre quite smart.
Old 28 January 2009, 05:57 PM
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There used to be a company in Costock, Notts. that made them.
They used to advertise in the back of EVO mag.
IIRC they cost about £120 and plugged into the cig. lighter.

Can't remember the name but if you've got any old copies lying around...

Edit - remembered the name. RaceLogic.

http://www.racelogic.co.uk/

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Old 28 January 2009, 06:38 PM
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I've got a Performance Box and it's cool as f***!

And those adverts you've seen in the back of Evo (and Autosport and Total Impreza and Porsche 911 World and Total Evo)...? The photos in them are mine

Saw 5th gear using a P Box the other week for 0-60s in a 911.
PBox is GPS based with a 10Hz engine and I've found it pretty good.
I tend to leave it running and then do what you need to do and then analyse on PC at home, much less distracting than foofing about in car.
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Dynolicious for your Apple iPhone or iPod Touch - Coolest Apple App ever!
Old 28 January 2009, 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by HankScorpio
I've got a Performance Box and it's cool as f***!

And those adverts you've seen in the back of Evo (and Autosport and Total Impreza and Porsche 911 World and Total Evo)...? The photos in them are mine

Saw 5th gear using a P Box the other week for 0-60s in a 911.
PBox is GPS based with a 10Hz engine and I've found it pretty good.
I tend to leave it running and then do what you need to do and then analyse on PC at home, much less distracting than foofing about in car.
Three paragraphs and no link?
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Originally Posted by GC8
Three paragraphs and no link?
It's in here.
http://www.racelogic.co.uk/
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Was in the post above
Made by Racelogic:
http://www.racelogic.co.uk/

Performance Box is the actual product I've got:
PerformanceBox Overview

But they do a few different ones.
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Racelogic performance box, excellent piece of kit.
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I had a g tech pro rr. quite accurate, if you set it up properly.

It had quite a few things it could record. g force, gear shift times, breaking distance , 0-60, bhp,1/4 miles etc.



it also had a built in shift light that can come on at any rpm you choose.

was about £200 a year back, probably cheaper by now.
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Theyre nice, but its between three and for times what Im looking to pay, with features that I dont need.
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Originally Posted by Mifo
I had a g tech pro rr. quite accurate, if you set it up properly.

It had quite a few things it could record. g force, gear shift times, breaking distance , 0-60, bhp,1/4 miles etc.



it also had a built in shift light that can come on at any rpm you choose.

was about £200 a year back, probably cheaper by now.
£200 when the £ was worth $2 and they retailed at $200 in the United States, so they should have been about £125. If they were available for a realistic price, rather than the usual £-for-$ rip off that we're used to, then Id have ordered one already...

*eta: available for £150 in England and Im tempted - its a shame that the original '94 models have sold out at £99*

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Originally Posted by GC8
£200 when the £ was worth $2 and they retailed at $200 in the United States, so they should have been about £125. If they were available for a realistic price, rather than the usual £-for-$ rip off that we're used to, then Id have ordered one already...

*eta: available for £150 in England and Im tempted - its a shame that the original '94 models have sold out at £99*
its not called "rip off Britain" for nothing you know!!

you might get an older one for cheaper, just keep an eye out on ebay.
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Originally Posted by **************
How do you secure the iphone to the dash/anywhere else though so it doesn't move?
I just use a suction mount mobile phone holder from Halfords in my GTR. It took a few attempts to get it set up, I found that the torque reaction of dialling in the revs to launch was triggering the timer so had to fiddle with the settings.
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Try Race Technology - might be something there?

I fancy a VIDEO4, but prolly a bit too much pennies!

mb
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Originally Posted by **************
Cheers Rev. I've got a suction mount on the windscreen but its one with the twisty arm which i'm sure will move under load and therefore affect the results. Has yours not got an arm attached to the mount?
It has the arm but seems pretty accurate. My car got dyno'd at 375bhp. The one half decent run I made with Dynolicious worked it out as 360bhp but I bogged the launch (hence half-decent). GTRs like a lot of revs at launch otherwise they bog down when the front wheels are brought into action as I found. You get a chirp from the rears then you fall off the boost as the power gets fed forward. Still did a 4.5 0-60. Once I get some time and find a better "private track" I should be able to get some better results. For what it costs, you can't knock it really.
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As far as mounting your iPhone / iTouch G meter Brodit mounting kits are unbeatable. Generally consists of a custom made clip for your car which for example clips around the air vents, then you get a custom holder for the iPhone. Use Brodit Proclips for my satnav after finding the stick on ones to be a bit poo, it's rock solid

Get them from here: Brodit Proclip | UK | DSLDevelopments

Not cheap but once you've used them you'll never look at any other type of mount.
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Originally Posted by **************
How do you secure the iphone to the dash/anywhere else though so it doesn't move?
Bearing in mind the forces it will experience in the race car around the Silverstone International circuit I intend to put the iPhone in a spare rubber iPhone skin I have and mount it to the dash of the race car using industrial strength velcro. It should hold it firmly in place and provide protection for the phone should it come loose and obviously the driver will be instructed to tour back to the pits in that eventuality.

It should be interesting as we should be able to compare some of the data such as lateral G to the Motec data logging system fitted to the car.
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iPhone car performance meter software

Back on topic: any other suggestion?
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Gtech Pro RR on eBay, also Other Performance Parts, Performance Tuning Parts, Car Tuning Styling, Cars, Parts Vehicles (end time 01-Feb-09 11:24:01 GMT)

^^^ 2nd hand on the bay. NTDWM.

GTECH PRO PERFORMANCE METER on eBay, also Other Performance Parts, Performance Tuning Parts, Car Tuning Styling, Cars, Parts Vehicles (end time 02-Feb-09 09:42:00 GMT)

The previous LED readout version. Again NTDWM.

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