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02 January 2009, 01:56 PM
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Another question for the fitness experts (again)...
I've just started walking 4 miles a day and cut all the cr4p out of my diet as I need to lose weight again. I lost a stone August/September last year by jogging 1.25 miles and then walking it back to home either every day or every other day. Once I had my summer holiday though I piled that stone back on and did no exercise and eating/drinking loads from October to now 
Is walking 4 miles every day going to burn more calories/lose weight quicker than if I jog for 1.25 miles and then walk 1.25 miles?
The 4 miles takes me an hour and I am assuming that even though it's low impact and i'm not sweating my ar$e off compared to jogging this is still better as it lasts longer and is every day?
Once i've done a week of the 4 miles a day I then will add 30 mins each evening on the exercise bike I've got.
Not interested in muscle building so not doing any sit ups etc just purely losing my gut which will only come from walking/running/cycling and eating a lot less?
This is something I have to keep up as the Mrs wants me trimmed down for our wedding and my reward is that she will finally let me have a dog if I achieve a flat stomach compared to the 'pregnant' look I have now. Absolutely desperate for a dog (11 years since I last had one) so desperate to lose the weight as fast as possible and get my dog!
Is walking 4 miles every day going to burn more calories/lose weight quicker than if I jog for 1.25 miles and then walk 1.25 miles?
The 4 miles takes me an hour and I am assuming that even though it's low impact and i'm not sweating my ar$e off compared to jogging this is still better as it lasts longer and is every day?
Once i've done a week of the 4 miles a day I then will add 30 mins each evening on the exercise bike I've got.
Not interested in muscle building so not doing any sit ups etc just purely losing my gut which will only come from walking/running/cycling and eating a lot less?
This is something I have to keep up as the Mrs wants me trimmed down for our wedding and my reward is that she will finally let me have a dog if I achieve a flat stomach compared to the 'pregnant' look I have now. Absolutely desperate for a dog (11 years since I last had one) so desperate to lose the weight as fast as possible and get my dog!
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02 January 2009, 02:52 PM
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I use to be very fit, but the last 15 yrs ive sat on my **** and done bugger all in the way of fitness.
I've just purchased a good quality cross trainer and in just the 2 days ive been using it (once in the morning and once in the evening for 10min) I feel great.
Ive got that tingley feeling back inside me after doing a little on the cross trainer. Just like i use to when Speed skating and playing roller hockey.
Im also not interested in building mussels, just want to loose the big gut ive got !
I've just purchased a good quality cross trainer and in just the 2 days ive been using it (once in the morning and once in the evening for 10min) I feel great.
Ive got that tingley feeling back inside me after doing a little on the cross trainer. Just like i use to when Speed skating and playing roller hockey.
Im also not interested in building mussels, just want to loose the big gut ive got !
02 January 2009, 03:41 PM
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Your calorie burn is going to depend on time, not just distance. You can slow jog 1.5 miles and burn less calories than a brisk walk of 3 miles. Also if you sustain an elevated heart rate for longer than 20 minutes, you're building more endurance and keeps your body's metabolic rate increased for longer after you finish your workout.
Here's something you may want to use to judge your calorie burn:
Calories Burned, BMI, BMR & RMR Calculator | CaloriesPerHour.com
Lastly it also sounds like you're doing this daily. Your body needs to rest, especially after harder more taxing workouts. You can do a light workout for the day after a very tough workout, but don't push it up every day or your body won't catch up and you won't realize as many of the benefits as if you were to rest.
Cheers,
Ryan
Here's something you may want to use to judge your calorie burn:
Calories Burned, BMI, BMR & RMR Calculator | CaloriesPerHour.com
Lastly it also sounds like you're doing this daily. Your body needs to rest, especially after harder more taxing workouts. You can do a light workout for the day after a very tough workout, but don't push it up every day or your body won't catch up and you won't realize as many of the benefits as if you were to rest.
Cheers,
Ryan
02 January 2009, 04:12 PM
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Your calorie burn is going to depend on time, not just distance. You can slow jog 1.5 miles and burn less calories than a brisk walk of 3 miles. Also if you sustain an elevated heart rate for longer than 20 minutes, you're building more endurance and keeps your body's metabolic rate increased for longer after you finish your workout.
Here's something you may want to use to judge your calorie burn:
Calories Burned, BMI, BMR & RMR Calculator | CaloriesPerHour.com
Lastly it also sounds like you're doing this daily. Your body needs to rest, especially after harder more taxing workouts. You can do a light workout for the day after a very tough workout, but don't push it up every day or your body won't catch up and you won't realize as many of the benefits as if you were to rest.
Cheers,
Ryan
Here's something you may want to use to judge your calorie burn:
Calories Burned, BMI, BMR & RMR Calculator | CaloriesPerHour.com
Lastly it also sounds like you're doing this daily. Your body needs to rest, especially after harder more taxing workouts. You can do a light workout for the day after a very tough workout, but don't push it up every day or your body won't catch up and you won't realize as many of the benefits as if you were to rest.
Cheers,
Ryan
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02 January 2009, 04:13 PM
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Im doing the same sort of thing mate, and its having a good effect. Burning calories like no tomorrow lol.
Walking approx 18km's a day with the dogs. a 9km circuit takes about 1 hour 20 mins, and apparently burns about 850 calories. By rough calculation. Which is similar to when I was running tbh
Walking approx 18km's a day with the dogs. a 9km circuit takes about 1 hour 20 mins, and apparently burns about 850 calories. By rough calculation. Which is similar to when I was running tbh
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I use this link to plan my cycle routes etc.
When you input a route you'll see a box open up on the main screen which allows you to put in time/ your weight etc and will calculate distance/ calories etc for you. It even gives elevation so it knows if you are walking/cycling harder to get up a hill.
You don't need to register, just use it as a guest. You'll be able to see other routes in your area also.
Running Routes - WalkJogRun
When you input a route you'll see a box open up on the main screen which allows you to put in time/ your weight etc and will calculate distance/ calories etc for you. It even gives elevation so it knows if you are walking/cycling harder to get up a hill.
You don't need to register, just use it as a guest. You'll be able to see other routes in your area also.
Running Routes - WalkJogRun
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I've just started walking 4 miles a day and cut all the cr4p out of my diet as I need to lose weight again. I lost a stone August/September last year by jogging 1.25 miles and then walking it back to home either every day or every other day. Once I had my summer holiday though I piled that stone back on and did no exercise and eating/drinking loads from October to now
Is walking 4 miles every day going to burn more calories/lose weight quicker than if I jog for 1.25 miles and then walk 1.25 miles?
The 4 miles takes me an hour and I am assuming that even though it's low impact and i'm not sweating my ar$e off compared to jogging this is still better as it lasts longer and is every day?
Once i've done a week of the 4 miles a day I then will add 30 mins each evening on the exercise bike I've got.
Not interested in muscle building so not doing any sit ups etc just purely losing my gut which will only come from walking/running/cycling and eating a lot less?
This is something I have to keep up as the Mrs wants me trimmed down for our wedding and my reward is that she will finally let me have a dog if I achieve a flat stomach compared to the 'pregnant' look I have now. Absolutely desperate for a dog (11 years since I last had one) so desperate to lose the weight as fast as possible and get my dog!
Is walking 4 miles every day going to burn more calories/lose weight quicker than if I jog for 1.25 miles and then walk 1.25 miles?
The 4 miles takes me an hour and I am assuming that even though it's low impact and i'm not sweating my ar$e off compared to jogging this is still better as it lasts longer and is every day?
Once i've done a week of the 4 miles a day I then will add 30 mins each evening on the exercise bike I've got.
Not interested in muscle building so not doing any sit ups etc just purely losing my gut which will only come from walking/running/cycling and eating a lot less?
This is something I have to keep up as the Mrs wants me trimmed down for our wedding and my reward is that she will finally let me have a dog if I achieve a flat stomach compared to the 'pregnant' look I have now. Absolutely desperate for a dog (11 years since I last had one) so desperate to lose the weight as fast as possible and get my dog!
I regularly do a 2hr 8mile walk, i weigh myself before and after and always come back 2lbs lighter. I have worked out 1lb of this is in water and the other 1lb in body fat.
So to lose a stone and still eat the same i am required to walk this 8 mile route 14 times over. I actually did do this last summer and it worked for me, lost about a stone in weight with about as many walks.
I didnt class it as exercising, dieting and apart from the odd blister here and there i found this to be the perfect way to lose weight without the usual hassle of pounding the treadmill or going on cabbage soup diets.
Measure out a 4 mile route, there and back so 2hrs of walking and the weight will fly off. Do the obvious saturday and sunday and if you can a couple of days during the week.
Get a dog and an ipod and you wont get bored of it.
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Im doing the same sort of thing mate, and its having a good effect. Burning calories like no tomorrow lol.
Walking approx 18km's a day with the dogs. a 9km circuit takes about 1 hour 20 mins, and apparently burns about 850 calories. By rough calculation. Which is similar to when I was running tbh
Walking approx 18km's a day with the dogs. a 9km circuit takes about 1 hour 20 mins, and apparently burns about 850 calories. By rough calculation. Which is similar to when I was running tbh
02 January 2009, 04:52 PM
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For the 8 miles i'd just have to do my current route twice. Need to have a drive about and see how far the pavement goes on a route that goes down a very long and very steep hill as that will help with the calories on the way back up it.
Got the iphone on the go and about the only time i've used it for music (apart from on holiday) and it's been great. Only the dog to add to make it even better but have to get rid of the huge gut first before the Mrs lets me get a dog. Really enjoying the cold fresh air too and going in the middle of the day so not too cold.
Got the iphone on the go and about the only time i've used it for music (apart from on holiday) and it's been great. Only the dog to add to make it even better but have to get rid of the huge gut first before the Mrs lets me get a dog. Really enjoying the cold fresh air too and going in the middle of the day so not too cold.
02 January 2009, 04:54 PM
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Bob, I'm trying to do something similiar. Although my wife and children want a rat of a dog so perhaps it'll make me fitter as I'll have to carry the stupid little thing when it gets tired.
What dog are you after?
Steve
What dog are you after?
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02 January 2009, 05:17 PM
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This is a myth often quoted by the fat and lazy! 
Brisk walking for a given period does not burn as much fat as jogging, provided the "jogging" is actually jogging. Walking does, however, burn a higher proportion of fat per energy expended than jogging.
Sit ups, crunches or whatever would also be a good idea to help tone up the abdominals. No need to go crazy- just let your abs know you're on the case- and visible results will be quicker.
Brisk walking for a given period does not burn as much fat as jogging, provided the "jogging" is actually jogging. Walking does, however, burn a higher proportion of fat per energy expended than jogging.Sit ups, crunches or whatever would also be a good idea to help tone up the abdominals. No need to go crazy- just let your abs know you're on the case- and visible results will be quicker.
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I've so far settled on Cocker Spaniel as my Aunt has bred them and got to play with one from her last litter and it was a great little dog but have just found out she wont be breeding them any more (too much work) so will have to find some where else reliable to get one from.However still undecided whether I should be doing the right thing and rehoming a dog from a rescue centre. Will be giving an unwanted dog a loving family home plus wont cost me a fortune to buy, will be neutered already and will unlikley be a puppy so already house trained.
Downside is it wont develop its character on us and will have already got its character based on who it lived with as a puppy.
Looks like i've got a long time to think about it anyway as can't see the Mrs giving in and letting me get one before achieving my weight loss.
02 January 2009, 05:22 PM
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Does this not just build muscle though? I thought they weren't any use for actually burning the fat? If that's wrong i'll start doing them!
02 January 2009, 05:28 PM
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I've so far settled on Cocker Spaniel as my Aunt has bred them and got to play with one from her last litter and it was a great little dog but have just found out she wont be breeding them any more (too much work) so will have to find some where else reliable to get one from.
Good luck with the weight loss.
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02 January 2009, 05:36 PM
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Don't let my comments above put you off walking!
Remember, if you get a pup, you'll have to take it easy on the walking until it's about a year old, so a rescue mutt would be an excellent idea. We have 2!
02 January 2009, 05:38 PM
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I do believe its called a preference 
I am seeing similar sorts of losses to you.
I have to admit coming back from a decent walk is far more pleasent than ending a hard run. Wearing clothes soaked in your own sweat is never appealing. lol
I am seeing similar sorts of losses to you.
I have to admit coming back from a decent walk is far more pleasent than ending a hard run. Wearing clothes soaked in your own sweat is never appealing. lol
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You won't build any muscle with just a few reps, or lose much, if any, fat, but you will tighten up your stomach muscles, and help pull in your gut!
Don't let my comments above put you off walking!
Remember, if you get a pup, you'll have to take it easy on the walking until it's about a year old, so a rescue mutt would be an excellent idea. We have 2!
Don't let my comments above put you off walking!
Remember, if you get a pup, you'll have to take it easy on the walking until it's about a year old, so a rescue mutt would be an excellent idea. We have 2!
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For the 8 miles i'd just have to do my current route twice. Need to have a drive about and see how far the pavement goes on a route that goes down a very long and very steep hill as that will help with the calories on the way back up it.
Got the iphone on the go and about the only time i've used it for music (apart from on holiday) and it's been great. Only the dog to add to make it even better but have to get rid of the huge gut first before the Mrs lets me get a dog. Really enjoying the cold fresh air too and going in the middle of the day so not too cold.
Got the iphone on the go and about the only time i've used it for music (apart from on holiday) and it's been great. Only the dog to add to make it even better but have to get rid of the huge gut first before the Mrs lets me get a dog. Really enjoying the cold fresh air too and going in the middle of the day so not too cold.
If you walk 4 miles out, you have no choice, you have to walk the 4 miles back
If you do stick to your 4 miler, its probably safe to assume you'll need to do this 28 times to lose 14lbs. Of course, we are all different shapes and sizes but it works for me, im around 5'10 and 12st, so i guess if you're heavier and shorter, you may lose a little more or taller and thinner, maybe a little less. Lots of variables yes, but works for me.
Best thing to do is get on the scales before and then after to find how much you can expect to lose per walk and then base how many walks you need to do to get your desired weekly weight loss drop.
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6'3" and 14st 10lb. What I did last time was weigh myself the same time of day once a week to see what I had lost over the week. I like to see it as a goal each week rather than a tiny bit each day.
I've cut down the calories a lot because I was probably having 1000 calories a day just in chocolate, crisps, biscuits, cake etc let alone oven chips with everything (almost). All that is now banned by me and is the most difficult part for me. The walking is a doddle, not eating chocolate is a nightmare for me
I've cut down the calories a lot because I was probably having 1000 calories a day just in chocolate, crisps, biscuits, cake etc let alone oven chips with everything (almost). All that is now banned by me and is the most difficult part for me. The walking is a doddle, not eating chocolate is a nightmare for me
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Well thinking it's 'only' walking i'm surprised by the results after a week. I've done the 4 miles 5 times in a week with 2 days rest back to back due to work/other commitments. So 20 miles of brisk walking has lost me 7lb's. I know everyone will say fluid loss but i've been drinking gallons more than I normally do. So after thinking i'd have to change to jogging thinking i'd see little result i'll do it for another week and see what the loss will be.
08 January 2009, 09:34 AM
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A proportion of your weight loss will be down to your reduced calorie intake. (I take it you are now eating healthily and proportionately?)
This should have settled down now so i doubt your next weeks weight loss will be 7lbs, probably more like half of that. You are always likely to lose a lot in the 1st week or 2, but after that it gets a little more difficult.
If you manage a further 7lbs, make sure you're not starving yourself. It's good in the short term but once you have a decent sized meal, it will pile all back on again. If you are eating like a horse and drinking like a fish and still losing 7lbs, i'd be surprised.
Aim for 3lbs a week from now on in and you'll be doing it correctly.
Good luck
This should have settled down now so i doubt your next weeks weight loss will be 7lbs, probably more like half of that. You are always likely to lose a lot in the 1st week or 2, but after that it gets a little more difficult.
If you manage a further 7lbs, make sure you're not starving yourself. It's good in the short term but once you have a decent sized meal, it will pile all back on again. If you are eating like a horse and drinking like a fish and still losing 7lbs, i'd be surprised.
Aim for 3lbs a week from now on in and you'll be doing it correctly.
Good luck
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Totally unscientific but:
I cycle 10 miles every day (all very hilly) and barely break a sweat, even when I cane it.
I run 3-5 miles a few times and week and it utterly knackers me out (all off road, hilly and doing around 7 min miles).
I walk 3 miles a day (with the dog) and hardly notice it.
So surely running burns the most calories?!
I cycle 10 miles every day (all very hilly) and barely break a sweat, even when I cane it.
I run 3-5 miles a few times and week and it utterly knackers me out (all off road, hilly and doing around 7 min miles).
I walk 3 miles a day (with the dog) and hardly notice it.
So surely running burns the most calories?!
08 January 2009, 10:01 AM
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Remember muscles get used to repetition so try to mix it up to burn more calories.
Walk one day, Cycle another, change speed etc.
Lately I have been doing core muscle exercises, these are a great way to start your training regime and strengthen up your lower back which is very important.
Walk one day, Cycle another, change speed etc.
Lately I have been doing core muscle exercises, these are a great way to start your training regime and strengthen up your lower back which is very important.
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Mitchy thanks. I have cut out the majority of cr4p which was continual snacking. I'm still having large dinners as they keep being put in front of me, so roast potatoes pastry etc. Meals haven't really been altered apart from breakfast. I had been having a full bowl of cereal but weighed out the portion of 40g and couldn't believe it, was a tiny bit in the bottom of the bowl. I've had some ice cream and chocolate this week but only occasionally, no more than once a day instead of the several choccy bars a day, bowl of ice cream every day I had been having. Snacking i'm caning fruit like no tomorrow instead of biscuits and chocolate. I'm still having my mug of coffee in the morning with 2 sugars but other coffee in the day is without sugar really for the reason that the caffeine is supposed to help the metabolism stay high. Can't stand the taste without my 2 sugars in it.
I'm probably now having the calorie intake I should be having or may be just short of it where as before I was easily over 3000 calories a day maybe 4000+ some days.
I know the weight loss will slow, was the same when I did jogging for a few months last summer although this weight loss in the first week is more and i'm eating more than I was back then.
Matteeboy i'm not walking like i'm walking a dog, i'm walking briskly, probably not mush slower than the pathetically slow jogging I can manage. My shins and calf muscles are really feeling it after a week.
I'm probably now having the calorie intake I should be having or may be just short of it where as before I was easily over 3000 calories a day maybe 4000+ some days.
I know the weight loss will slow, was the same when I did jogging for a few months last summer although this weight loss in the first week is more and i'm eating more than I was back then.
Matteeboy i'm not walking like i'm walking a dog, i'm walking briskly, probably not mush slower than the pathetically slow jogging I can manage. My shins and calf muscles are really feeling it after a week.
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Bravo - we walk our dog at a very brisk pace - or she gets bored! If we don't walk her, I run with her. Just can't do slow ambling.
Won't getting a dog help you achieve your aims?
4 miles in an hours isn't bad for walking. I do the same distance (with lots of hills, stiles, gates, etc) in about 30-32 mins running but am whacked at the end of it. Good if you're feeling it though - I don't feel I've done exercise properly unless I ache or am truly knackered. It's a good habit to get into.
Won't getting a dog help you achieve your aims?
4 miles in an hours isn't bad for walking. I do the same distance (with lots of hills, stiles, gates, etc) in about 30-32 mins running but am whacked at the end of it. Good if you're feeling it though - I don't feel I've done exercise properly unless I ache or am truly knackered. It's a good habit to get into.
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There are arguments and studies that suggest you can burn more calories through short, sharp bursts of exercise than steady, low intensity sessions.
A Google for "HITT Training" will turn up plenty of information.
A Google for "HITT Training" will turn up plenty of information.