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Old 23 October 2008, 08:46 AM
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BBC NEWS | UK | Council ends speed camera funding
Old 23 October 2008, 08:55 AM
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Old 23 October 2008, 09:50 AM
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I totally agree with what they have done, however I do hope that it does not attract every speed freak into the area, and then they start racing...

...the PC brigade would just love a few boy racers to stack there cars in a big crash to justify why they should have speed cameras.

Now is the time to drive like saints to make the figures better without the cameras
Old 23 October 2008, 10:04 AM
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errrr the govt announced years ago it was funding any more speed cameras.

I personally haven't seen any new ones go up in years now.

unless perhaps we're talking about motorway specs ones perhaps etc.
Old 23 October 2008, 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by austinwrx
errrr the govt announced years ago it was funding any more speed cameras.

I personally haven't seen any new ones go up in years now.

unless perhaps we're talking about motorway specs ones perhaps etc.
This includes the mobile cameras used by the "safety" partnership, however the Police may still perform speed enforcement using speed traps.
Old 23 October 2008, 10:52 AM
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The only thing that concerns me is what they decide to replace them with...
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Originally Posted by PeteBrant
The only thing that concerns me is what they decide to replace them with...
How about some education into the fact that it's inappropriate speed, bad driving and lack of concentration that causes accidents?

Or is that far too sensible?
Old 23 October 2008, 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Scoobychick
How about some education into the fact that it's inappropriate speed, bad driving and lack of concentration that causes accidents?

Or is that far too sensible?
Yes I agree and I dont support speedcams which I believe to be unreliable. The trouble is, how do you enforce inappropriate speed etc? The only way I can see is by use of more traffic cops who would then pick up the more serious driving offences as well.

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its all a joke really- we've got areas in Bradford where 60% of all motorists have no insurance.

yet I have to watch my speed ?? Police can't even get people to drive in accordance with the law here in any shape or form.

mind you the police did recently seize 80 cars and arrest 16 of the drivers due to other issues last week in a campaign.
Old 23 October 2008, 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by PeteBrant
The only thing that concerns me is what they decide to replace them with...
More driver education, better lighting and junction layouts etc according to the press.

Yet another example of progressive Tory government in action. Hopefully once they are fully elected they can roll out this scheme country wide.

Who says there's no difference between the parties?

Old 23 October 2008, 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by unclebuck
More driver education, better lighting and junction layouts etc according to the press.

Yet another example of progressive Tory government in action. Hopefully once they are fully elected they can roll out this scheme country wide.

Who says there's no difference between the parties?

Sounds good to me!

I was concerned that there would be an influx of speed humps and the like.
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Brake comment

""Staying well within speed limits is essential for everyone's safety and cameras are an important tool in catching drivers who insist on breaking the law and putting lives in danger.""
Old 23 October 2008, 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by MattW
Brake comment

""Staying well within speed limits is essential for everyone's safety and cameras are an important tool in catching drivers who insist on breaking the law and putting lives in danger.""
Interesting that they say cameras are there to catch people.

They aren't - If they catch people speeding, they have failed in thier purpose.
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Many speed limts are broken as the limits have been set ridiculously low, and therefore ignored. Several main routes that I regularly use have been reduced by up to 20 mph; routes which have had the same limit for decades and decades are all of a sudden deemed dangerous.

Seems the Mary Whitehouse type of people see this as their new mission in life.

The big local gov't campaign launced for a review of speed limits said at the time that it wasn't a tool for a blanket reduction speeds and that some limits may rise, what utter rubbish. I've never in my life seen a speed limit being raised for a road.

It looks suspiciously like they have reduced the limits to raise revenue and not targeting inappropriate speed and poor driving in general.
Old 23 October 2008, 04:24 PM
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It's a farce and the world is going mental .

Everyone accepts speed isn't the only killer on the road, but a speeding driver is a driver either incapable of adhering to the laws of the road, or a driver who thinks they are above the laws of the road. Either way it is a clear indication of inability or arrogance. There is no reason not to punish it, just like there is no reason not to punish those who hold mobile phones when driving, those who drink drive or those who have moustaches or mullettts.

More traffic police would be awesome and it is a shame that the good work that speed cameras do in other counties isnt used to fund them, thus creating the perfect cycle of road safety and traffic law compliance.
Old 23 October 2008, 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Abdabz
...but a speeding driver is a driver either incapable of adhering to the laws of the road, or a driver who thinks they are above the laws of the road.
...or maybe it is a driver who is perfectly capable of adjusting his speed to the appropriate road, weather and traffic conditions, coupled with his or her driving experience and ability and the capabilities of his or her car and taking appropriate actions regarding ongoing events and hazards - rather than blindly adhering to the poorly posted roadside "lollies" that have reduced the vast majority of speed "limits" to stupidly low thresholds (e.g. 30mph instead of 60mph dual carriageway)? As for being "above the laws of the road" - they take a calculated risk, just like everybody does (whether driving or not) many hundreds or thousands of times a day!

Originally Posted by Abdabz
Either way it is a clear indication of inability or arrogance.
...or many other things apart from "speeding". There is an increasing number of incapable drivers on our roads, due to poor training, illegal drivers (no licence or insurance) or poor enforcement of truly dangerous driving - which speeds cameras can't enforce!

Anyway, enjoy your "perfect cycle", without having to be insured, taxed, displaying a number plate, have adequate lighting at night, run red lights, mount the pavement - and generally be "above the laws of the road"

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