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Old Sep 21, 2008 | 07:33 PM
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MMM, it seemed to work in Hong Kong!!.
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Old Sep 21, 2008 | 08:33 PM
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Whats the problem, as has been said, it worked at HK ?
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Old Sep 21, 2008 | 09:02 PM
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It would be a nightmare here.

1. Can you imagine how long the public enquiry would be? The entire South East airspace would need to be changed. You have every green nut in the SE complaining that any proposed solution would adversely affect them.

2. As above, it would take years to design the airspace.

3. How are people going to get into and out of the place? Lots of new infrastructure needed.

4. The environmental assessment would take years, and be challenged.

5. East London, and beyond would see marked increase in aircraft noise. Benefit to West London though.

6. And who pays for it? HMG wont' and I can tell you Ferrovial ( LHR owners ) wouldnt pay for it,

7.Forgot to add that Maplin sands is on the migratory route for birds. If anyone fancies flying out of an airports that regularly has 10's of thousands of birds flying round it, be my guest!

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Old Sep 22, 2008 | 08:40 AM
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FM, I agree with you totally.

BUT, they had a public enquiry on the new 'super-port' being built on the Thames. That was just a show. It was agreed well before that started.

Mind you though, what does 10 thousand birds going through a jet engine do?
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Old Sep 22, 2008 | 08:45 AM
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Plenty sandbanks out there and opportunity for a more extensive floodbarrier which ll be needed in the not too distant future .!
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Old Sep 22, 2008 | 09:28 AM
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Osaka international airport in Japan is a "floating" airport built in the sea - Works great!

Can't see one being built in the Thames unless its privately financed.
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Old Sep 22, 2008 | 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Nat21
****, can a mod swap my c for an f in the title please?

Done A bit late, sorry
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Old Sep 22, 2008 | 11:14 AM
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It's actually a very good idea.

Refreshing to see somebody in politics with a bit of vision.


Won't happen though.
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Old Sep 22, 2008 | 11:39 AM
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Heard about it on the radio this morning. Would be interested to see where exactly its planned.

Given the choice, would people go for expanding Heathrow, landing more planes at an already busy facility, or relocating some of the traffic to a new location in the SE rather than the SW and W
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Old Sep 22, 2008 | 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by unclebuck
It's actually a very good idea.

Refreshing to see somebody in politics with a bit of vision.


Won't happen though.

Why do you think it's a good idea UB?


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Old Sep 22, 2008 | 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Nat21
HK had one tiny, cramped airport with a crazy approach right over the city. They needed the island-port.
Not a good comparison Nat!

LHR is tiny by comparison to other hub airports, it's cramped and has an approach right over the city.

But, for the reasons I quoted above, it is a bad idea and will not happen.
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Old Sep 22, 2008 | 11:59 AM
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12 YEAR-OLD BOYS BACK JOHNSON AIRPORT PLAN - The Daily Mash

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Old Sep 22, 2008 | 12:00 PM
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The one at osaka, Kansai International, doesnt float its actually attached to the sea bed.

It cost a massive amount of money, and its sinking slowly, but it hasnt stopped them from building a second one.

The japanese government has also paid millions to the local fishermen for loss and damage to fishing grounds. This has also happened in Hong Kong.
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Old Sep 22, 2008 | 12:03 PM
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Airlines would have to pay the congestion charge ......
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Old Sep 22, 2008 | 12:08 PM
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This story comes round as often as April Fools day. Panic, panic: we need more runways!!! Let's stick it an airport in the Thames estuary (or North Kent).

Why? They're taxing the passengers out of the sky, aircraft are considered the greatest evil of modern times by the environmentalists, and airlines are failing on an almost weekly basis.

We just don't need another airport or another runway. And no I don't live close to any existing or proposed airports!
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Old Sep 22, 2008 | 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Scoobychick
Done A bit late, sorry
I beg to differ Miss

it still says articicial
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Old Sep 22, 2008 | 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Wurzel
I beg to differ Miss

it still says articicial
Try a refresh!
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Old Sep 22, 2008 | 05:43 PM
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It's correct on post #1 but still wrong at the head of the page and in the forum list , even when refreshed.
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Old Sep 22, 2008 | 07:39 PM
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Its a red herring designed to make the third RWY at Heathrow seem like the better option, although there are some who choose to believe it but as Flightman says it would take an inordinate amount of work to redesign the airspace in that area, throw in Eurocontrol and the whole thing doesn't stack up.
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Old Sep 22, 2008 | 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Flatcapdriver
Its a red herring designed to make the third RWY at Heathrow seem like the better option, although there are some who choose to believe it but as Flightman says it would take an inordinate amount of work to redesign the airspace in that area, throw in Eurocontrol and the whole thing doesn't stack up.

Stack up.

Love it!






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Old Sep 22, 2008 | 07:49 PM
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Well spotted.

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Old Sep 23, 2008 | 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by FlightMan
It would be a nightmare here.

1. Can you imagine how long the public enquiry would be? The entire South East airspace would need to be changed. You have every green nut in the SE complaining that any proposed solution would adversely affect them.

2. As above, it would take years to design the airspace.

3. How are people going to get into and out of the place? Lots of new infrastructure needed.

4. The environmental assessment would take years, and be challenged.

5. East London, and beyond would see marked increase in aircraft noise. Benefit to West London though.

6. And who pays for it? HMG wont' and I can tell you Ferrovial ( LHR owners ) wouldnt pay for it,

7.Forgot to add that Maplin sands is on the migratory route for birds. If anyone fancies flying out of an airports that regularly has 10's of thousands of birds flying round it, be my guest!
I thought that Flash and his creepy mates have banned public enquiries or objections to government building now!

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Old Sep 23, 2008 | 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Leslie
I thought that Flash and his creepy mates have banned public enquiries or objections to government building now!

Les
I thought so to Les, but there is a consultation goign on at the minute, or it may have just closed, regarding changes to TC North airspace.

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Old Sep 23, 2008 | 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by FlightMan
I thought so to Les, but there is a consultation goign on at the minute, or it may have just closed, regarding changes to TC North airspace.

Thanks-maybe it is still a proposal over planning and building etc.

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