Who has the right to film who?
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Who has the right to film who?
read the post 'uphold the law ...' and watch the videos.
how the pair of PCSOs behave is extraordinary. and as for the two constables, sorry, policepersons, well ...
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how the pair of PCSOs behave is extraordinary. and as for the two constables, sorry, policepersons, well ...
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according to policeblogspot, his nickname amongst colleagues is 'numpty' and was disciplined (whatever that means in the public sector). as to the two porcine constables in the second video, one assumes they sloped back to the station, picked their piggy-ignorant noses and lied about the incident to the duty officer. didn't look to me like they took a record of the stop at the scene ... isn't that what they're supposed to do?
this kind of thing does law enforcement no good and a VHS copy should be thrust in jacqui spliff's bovine and always-stupidly-startled face. that's if she hasn't lost more confidential records lately ... what's that, she's just lost a stack of more confidential records? oh and there's a risk of a class action lawsuit by the UK's lags against the government for breaching their own data protection laws? oh dear. you couldn't make it up, as richard littlejohn is fond of saying.
we are served by idiots. dangerous idiots. nice thought for a bank holiday.
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Well, I'm just tired of the same old faces saying the same old things.... apart from that everything is just fine.
Far from needing to 'get a life' people like Mr Pollard are performing a vital service getting this stuff out into the public domain
Far from needing to 'get a life' people like Mr Pollard are performing a vital service getting this stuff out into the public domain
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He was a bell-end, although the point that he was making was valid.
We seem to live in a society now where police officers feel that were are subservient as opposed to their being public servants.
We seem to live in a society now where police officers feel that were are subservient as opposed to their being public servants.
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for a minute i thought i was in china or somthing. ranting like that doesnt belong on the streets of britain i didnt watch the whole film because that bloke at the start annoyed me. community police officers are nothing more than busy bodys, there not good enough to be coppers so just walk around pushing there "weight" around.
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There's a slow transition from protecting and serving the community to persecuting it. I'm not just on about police and their spin-offs either.
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I actually daren't show that video to one of my friends for fear of causing him a heart attack.
That or a thermonuclear explosion.... I'm not sure which would be worse.
That or a thermonuclear explosion.... I'm not sure which would be worse.
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What powers do these PSCO's have i saw one trying to apprehend a rather large chap on northumberland street newcastle for allegedly littering. He was promptly told to **** off out of the way, and barged out of the way. Are they the same as the traffic wombles. Just a presence with no powers?
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What powers do these PSCO's have i saw one trying to apprehend a rather large chap on northumberland street newcastle for allegedly littering. He was promptly told to **** off out of the way, and barged out of the way. Are they the same as the traffic wombles. Just a presence with no powers?
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What powers do these PSCO's have i saw one trying to apprehend a rather large chap on northumberland street newcastle for allegedly littering. He was promptly told to **** off out of the way, and barged out of the way. Are they the same as the traffic wombles. Just a presence with no powers?
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How that bloke in the first video didnt tell the PCSO to "go forth and multiply" is beyond me.
These PCSO are noting more than wanna be police men but with no more power than you or I.
These PCSO are noting more than wanna be police men but with no more power than you or I.
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All 4 police / pcso's shown in the clips need to be retrained / disciplined.
Far too many cases today of the police /PCSO's / council's trying to throw their weight about and causing yet more damage to them selves by the actions of a few.
Yes the police have a hard job at times but they chose the profession (hopefully) for the right reason - i.e. serve and protect - but from watching the videos it seems to be to act out their judge dredd fantasy.
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The first line in the job description of PCSO's is the most significant. They were created as a cheap visible imitation of police officers and their practical value is particularly low. Policing which is of advantage to the public seems to have largely gone by the board now. We rarely even see a real copper on the streets unless there is a political occasion of some kind and then there are hundreds crowding the streets of course.
I have in the past been accosted by young constables so full of themselves as a PC that they think they can lord it over the rest of us and order us about. It looks as though we are going to get that from the plastic ones now!
The rest of their time seems to be spent safely in their offices making up reasons to convince the managers that they have fulfilled their useless targets so that the managers can say the things that the authorites want to hear and can use as what they think are impressive statistics.
it is well past time for the big shake up in this country.
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Filming on both occasions was done delibrately to elicit a response. If some stranger was to stick a camera in my face I would probably object to it. this is just a case of sensationalising something that doesn't affect the majority of the populus. The behaviour of the CSPOs and the PCs is inappropriate but let's face it there are far more pressing issues facing the general public. To use the two clips as generalisation of the Police Force is unfair and untrue, but hey it keeps the ones 'filming' in the limelight.
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its a similar case to this bloke pointing out to mr police man that he is reversing up a one way street Man arrested and locked up for five hours after taking photo of police van ignoring 'no entry' sign | Mail Online
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The PCSO was a typical example of how a lot of PCSOs behave IME. Aggressive and very poor communication skills.
The PC in the second clip should have apologised its as simple as that. Everyone can make a mistake from time to time (even more easy to do if your being told to watch for people filming etc by your superiors but not told about the actual law at the same time) and if you do you say sorry, especially if you are being filmed!!
The PC in the second clip should have apologised its as simple as that. Everyone can make a mistake from time to time (even more easy to do if your being told to watch for people filming etc by your superiors but not told about the actual law at the same time) and if you do you say sorry, especially if you are being filmed!!
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Filming on both occasions was done delibrately to elicit a response. If some stranger was to stick a camera in my face I would probably object to it. this is just a case of sensationalising something that doesn't affect the majority of the populus. The behaviour of the CSPOs and the PCs is inappropriate but let's face it there are far more pressing issues facing the general public. To use the two clips as generalisation of the Police Force is unfair and untrue, but hey it keeps the ones 'filming' in the limelight.
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In the first film the PCSO isn't even in shot for the first few seconds. Whilst on a recent holiday trip to London I was twice asked why I had a camera with me, once whilst exiting the tube station next to that top secret area of London called Leicester Square, and the second whilst about 300 yards from that carefully camouflaged MOD radar sight code named "The London Eye". On both occasions it was a PCSO that deemed it inappropriate for me to be carrying a switched off, lens cap in place camera in a public area, who queried what I was doing, demanded my ID, generally made me look like a terrorist suspect. When I pointed out that my camera was switched off, the one a Leicester Square seemed to think that was good enough and bumbled off, but the **** at the London Eye wouldn't listen, until a real copper came over and corrected his knowledge of the law, and apologised on his behalf. The couple of hundred other tourists with cameras probably should of been a clue. I guess that as I don't look like a tourist, being 40+, male and white probably raised his suspicions. I have to say that I felt uncomfortable carrying a camera in public around London, even near obvious tourist attractions.
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Filming on both occasions was done delibrately to elicit a response. If some stranger was to stick a camera in my face I would probably object to it. this is just a case of sensationalising something that doesn't affect the majority of the populus. The behaviour of the CSPOs and the PCs is inappropriate but let's face it there are far more pressing issues facing the general public. To use the two clips as generalisation of the Police Force is unfair and untrue, but hey it keeps the ones 'filming' in the limelight.
As for the 'real' coppers, I can totally understand why they came over.... nobody likes being filmed in a voyeuristic fashion... The cameraman immediately put up a front and the female PC was just a little too cocky... in the end... both coppers ended up looking stupid and left with what little dignity they could muster.... I don't agree with their actions but I do understand them. Lesson learnt hoppefully...