Jason PLato - hypocrite
15 August 2008, 12:53 PM
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Jason PLato - hypocrite
On Fifth Gear he was sliding past Tiff on a wet track in a (almost literally) do or die passing manouevre, out of control IMO.
At the same time on ITV's Tonight programme he was berating some young lads for being bad drivers
One because he was cornering at 100mph one-handed 
exactly the sort of driving that item 1 encourages.
None of the lads left the track, and were probably out to impress due to the cameras and the presence of the 'star'.
Think they could have found a more appropriate driver to make the point.
At the same time on ITV's Tonight programme he was berating some young lads for being bad drivers
One because he was cornering at 100mph one-handed exactly the sort of driving that item 1 encourages.None of the lads left the track, and were probably out to impress due to the cameras and the presence of the 'star'.
Think they could have found a more appropriate driver to make the point.
15 August 2008, 12:58 PM
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But Jason Plato can drive though.
He knew that Tiff would have the skill & reactions to avoid any collision on track. Remember he is a TC Driver, and such moves are bread & butter.
Cocking about on a track with another skilled driver is completely different to cocking about on the roads, which Mr. Plato probably won't do.
He knew that Tiff would have the skill & reactions to avoid any collision on track. Remember he is a TC Driver, and such moves are bread & butter.
Cocking about on a track with another skilled driver is completely different to cocking about on the roads, which Mr. Plato probably won't do.
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15 August 2008, 06:14 PM
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On Fifth Gear he was sliding past Tiff on a wet track in a (almost literally) do or die passing manouevre, out of control IMO.
At the same time on ITV's Tonight programme he was berating some young lads for being bad drivers One because he was cornering at 100mph one-handed exactly the sort of driving that item 1 encourages.
None of the lads left the track, and were probably out to impress due to the cameras and the presence of the 'star'.
Think they could have found a more appropriate driver to make the point.
At the same time on ITV's Tonight programme he was berating some young lads for being bad drivers
One because he was cornering at 100mph one-handed exactly the sort of driving that item 1 encourages.None of the lads left the track, and were probably out to impress due to the cameras and the presence of the 'star'.
Think they could have found a more appropriate driver to make the point.
To draw a parallel between a serious road safety message and a man being paid to hoon about for your entertainment is ridiculous.
Next youll be criticising him for having the audacity, as a racing driver, to suggest that baseball cap wearing imbeciles dont race each other on the Queens highway! How dare he, eh? Him a racing driver and all...
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15 August 2008, 07:35 PM
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well as one of the few people on here who knows Jase personally all I can say is don't judge the guy on what you see on tv! Yes he races hard as they all do in BTCC, but off the track a nicer man you could not meet. As for the original question in this thread I don't get what the problem is. The circumstances are so different that you can't really compare them.
16 August 2008, 09:23 AM
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Jason Plato is my current favourite driver in any motorsport, I like the way he drives both in BTCC and on the telly.
I didn't see the "offending" article but who are impressionable young guys more likely to respect the opinion of when it comes to driver safety - seasoned race professional (and winner) or some crusty police superintendent who thinks not wearing a tie with his uniform makes him friendlier to the yoofs...?
I didn't see the "offending" article but who are impressionable young guys more likely to respect the opinion of when it comes to driver safety - seasoned race professional (and winner) or some crusty police superintendent who thinks not wearing a tie with his uniform makes him friendlier to the yoofs...?
17 August 2008, 03:20 PM
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On Fifth Gear he was sliding past Tiff on a wet track in a (almost literally) do or die passing manouevre, out of control IMO.
At the same time on ITV's Tonight programme he was berating some young lads for being bad drivers One because he was cornering at 100mph one-handed exactly the sort of driving that item 1 encourages.
None of the lads left the track, and were probably out to impress due to the cameras and the presence of the 'star'.
Think they could have found a more appropriate driver to make the point.
At the same time on ITV's Tonight programme he was berating some young lads for being bad drivers
One because he was cornering at 100mph one-handed exactly the sort of driving that item 1 encourages.None of the lads left the track, and were probably out to impress due to the cameras and the presence of the 'star'.
Think they could have found a more appropriate driver to make the point.
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17 August 2008, 03:24 PM
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If theye were on a track then whats the beef. If on normal roads then it is a bit silly.
Track - Controlled enviroment (ISH)
Normal Road - Not the safest place in the world regardless of ability or percieved ability!
Track - Controlled enviroment (ISH)
Normal Road - Not the safest place in the world regardless of ability or percieved ability!
18 August 2008, 12:31 PM
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18 August 2008, 12:45 PM
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All depends on the corner, the speed in which it can be taken, track conditions, and most importantly........... the skill of the driver.
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On Fifth Gear he was sliding past Tiff on a wet track in a (almost literally) do or die passing manouevre, out of control IMO.
At the same time on ITV's Tonight programme he was berating some young lads for being bad drivers One because he was cornering at 100mph one-handed exactly the sort of driving that item 1 encourages.
None of the lads left the track, and were probably out to impress due to the cameras and the presence of the 'star'.
Think they could have found a more appropriate driver to make the point.
At the same time on ITV's Tonight programme he was berating some young lads for being bad drivers
One because he was cornering at 100mph one-handed exactly the sort of driving that item 1 encourages.None of the lads left the track, and were probably out to impress due to the cameras and the presence of the 'star'.
Think they could have found a more appropriate driver to make the point.
18 August 2008, 01:22 PM
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Not sure if I like the bloke or not - not that I'm sure he gives a toss 
I don't mind watching him race or give articles for 5th gear etc but I do feel that when things don't go his way, he can end up driving very poorly. The final race last year after he got burnt, I'm amazed he wasn't disqualified.
Bit like the Fernando Alonso of touring cars. When he's up he's awesome, when he's down, avoid at all costs.
I don't mind watching him race or give articles for 5th gear etc but I do feel that when things don't go his way, he can end up driving very poorly. The final race last year after he got burnt, I'm amazed he wasn't disqualified.
Bit like the Fernando Alonso of touring cars. When he's up he's awesome, when he's down, avoid at all costs.
19 August 2008, 01:35 PM
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Just to clarify;
Plato did not assess the lads driving on the road. They were driving on a clear track, just one car. There would have been a competitive element between them to show off on this one-off opportunity to drive a track.
But paying someone to demonstrate dodgy overtakes on a track while laughing about it will encourage the yoofs to believe that that is what it takes to be a good driver.
Plato just turned up the sanctimonious-ness a few notches too high. "That was the worst driving I've ever seen." Never seen anyone crash then?
All IMHO.
I'm not saying Plato is a bad driver or a bad person, the fact the two shows were on at the same time made the different attitudes more apparent.
Originally Posted by GC8
To draw a parallel between a serious road safety message and a man being paid to hoon about for your entertainment is ridiculous.
Plato just turned up the sanctimonious-ness a few notches too high. "That was the worst driving I've ever seen." Never seen anyone crash then?
All IMHO.
I'm not saying Plato is a bad driver or a bad person, the fact the two shows were on at the same time made the different attitudes more apparent.
19 August 2008, 02:24 PM
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One handed control of the wheel at very high speeds is never as smooth and controlled as two hands. That cannot be denied. What are you on a track for if you are not trying to get round as fast as possible, as I imagine these chaps were trying. If you get a bit of a slide or someone gets in your way suddenly, then your one handed efforts will almost certainly lead to overcontrolling, and your margins of control will be reduced considerably.
The question is of course, why were these blokes driving one handed anyway? Was it a way of trying to impress that they were the stars on the track? If it was then that was immature to say the least and is also unfair to others on the track.
If you go on one of those track days where you get some instruction from experienced racing drivers, or you go to get your racing licence application approval, if you are so stupid as to try that on, you will quite rightly get thrown off the track!
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19 August 2008, 02:40 PM
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Plato did not assess the lads driving on the road. They were driving on a clear track, just one car. There would have been a competitive element between them to show off on this one-off opportunity to drive a track.
But paying someone to demonstrate dodgy overtakes on a track while laughing about it will encourage the yoofs to believe that that is what it takes to be a good driver.
Plato just turned up the sanctimonious-ness a few notches too high. "That was the worst driving I've ever seen." Never seen anyone crash then?
All IMHO.
I'm not saying Plato is a bad driver or a bad person, the fact the two shows were on at the same time made the different attitudes more apparent.
But paying someone to demonstrate dodgy overtakes on a track while laughing about it will encourage the yoofs to believe that that is what it takes to be a good driver.
Plato just turned up the sanctimonious-ness a few notches too high. "That was the worst driving I've ever seen." Never seen anyone crash then?
All IMHO.
I'm not saying Plato is a bad driver or a bad person, the fact the two shows were on at the same time made the different attitudes more apparent.
19 August 2008, 03:45 PM
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". What a joke, just like everything on tv and the media...geared towards making money for themselves. This gives young drivers a terrible image...and infact anyone that fancies modifying a car in any way. These programmes are just as bad as Jeremy Kyle etc: lots of people watch them thinking they are making a difference and doing something good, when in actual fact they've probably never helped anyone that's been on them. F*cking grade A mince
- rant over -
And anyone that can't tell the difference between Jason Plato and an 18 yr old tool...
As if it makes a difference how he behaves? ...Whats going to be next on the list to make sure nobody influences these young drivers to drive dangerously...ban people of a certain age spectating at motorsport events?
All IMO
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19 August 2008, 05:35 PM
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19 August 2008, 10:11 PM
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FFS Jason Plato is just another bloke making a living, appearing on the news just raises his TV profile slightly and hopefully leads to other gigs for him. Is it just me or does anyone else on here admit to possibly enjoying 5th more than top gear? contentious I know.
20 August 2008, 11:05 AM
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Richard Burns used to drive one handed. Was he just out to impress? Or did he have god given driving tallent that allowed him to drive one handed while on a gravel road at over 100mph.
Talent and skill.
20 August 2008, 12:09 PM
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Archie Scott Brown had a withered arm and used to drive with one hand and the other arm in a leather strap on the wheel. He did remarkably well in the Lister Jaguars but I regret to say that he had a fatal accident in the end. His was also a demonstration of talent and skill and sheer determination.
Do you think those blokes mentioned by Plato had that sort of ability though?
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