New cistern innards
04 August 2008, 07:46 PM
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New cistern innards
The old diaphragm went on the loo at the weekend, so i toddled down to the old diy emporium to get a new one.
fat chance...most of it now consists of replacement units or total upgrades lol
I saw an upgrade that looked promising, it replaced the syphon mech with a flapper system and push button flush mech.
so duly purchased and installed
blimey!!!! talk about turbocharged flush
:eek2 :
I reckon a 20bhp increase on thruput,
it evens fills silently too,
now that is a bonus, no longer do you get the symphony of water rushing into the cistern, with the final 10 minute dripping as it struggles to close the valve 
anyone else come across these?
Mart
fat chance...most of it now consists of replacement units or total upgrades lol
I saw an upgrade that looked promising, it replaced the syphon mech with a flapper system and push button flush mech.
so duly purchased and installed
blimey!!!! talk about turbocharged flush
:eek2 :I reckon a 20bhp increase on thruput,
it evens fills silently too,
now that is a bonus, no longer do you get the symphony of water rushing into the cistern, with the final 10 minute dripping as it struggles to close the valve anyone else come across these?
Mart
04 August 2008, 08:17 PM
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If it a REALLY simple mechanism you got from Homebase - just a huge plug that sits over the hole and you lever it up on a chain - I have that one and you're dead right - blood great simple and powerful way to empty the cistern.
It does sound daft to talk about it, but it really is a great idea!
It does sound daft to talk about it, but it really is a great idea!
04 August 2008, 08:29 PM
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If it a REALLY simple mechanism you got from Homebase - just a huge plug that sits over the hole and you lever it up on a chain - I have that one and you're dead right - blood great simple and powerful way to empty the cistern.
It does sound daft to talk about it, but it really is a great idea!
It does sound daft to talk about it, but it really is a great idea!
I went for the complete kit, push button, flap & inlet assybest bit is, it only uses half the cistern full of water on max setting, so if you need to do another flush, you dont have to wait for it to fill
Mart
04 August 2008, 09:34 PM
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I've been meaning to fix our bog for ages -Leaky diaphram.
I've just adjusted it so it only half fills the cistern, so it takes about 6 hours worth of dripping to overflow....
Which is just as well, as the overflow pipe is right above the back door, and it gets me slap bang on the forehead everytime I walk outside
I've just adjusted it so it only half fills the cistern, so it takes about 6 hours worth of dripping to overflow....
Which is just as well, as the overflow pipe is right above the back door, and it gets me slap bang on the forehead everytime I walk outside
04 August 2008, 09:46 PM
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If you d0 replace then try and get a turbo 90(plumb centre defo sell these)
It means no drain down to repair next time, it has all the bungs for water saving as you like.
It means no drain down to repair next time, it has all the bungs for water saving as you like.
04 August 2008, 10:51 PM
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04 August 2008, 11:20 PM
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new syphon was £12, replacement kit was £18
for the sake of £6 it seemed a better investment
Mart
05 August 2008, 10:13 AM
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They are good aren't they? internal overflow too. Mine is adjustable too, from save the planet weedy flush to full torpedo removal.
05 August 2008, 01:18 PM
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We have got a pretty old one here-goes with a pretty old house! It is a china cistern at waist level behind the bog bit with the horizontal flushing handle. Does this kit fit mostly anything Mart?, ours is beginning to become an irritation now since it does not even always flush at the first attempt.
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05 August 2008, 01:36 PM
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We have got a pretty old one here-goes with a pretty old house! It is a china cistern at waist level behind the bog bit with the horizontal flushing handle. Does this kit fit mostly anything Mart?, ours is beginning to become an irritation now since it does not even always flush at the first attempt.
Les
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That's a SIT on stool, not s*it on one....
05 August 2008, 06:54 PM
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We have got a pretty old one here-goes with a pretty old house! It is a china cistern at waist level behind the bog bit with the horizontal flushing handle. Does this kit fit mostly anything Mart?, ours is beginning to become an irritation now since it does not even always flush at the first attempt.
Les
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you have to remove the cistern from the wall, and remove all the innards, (apart from your Original overflow)
It took me about an hour start to finish.
Mart
05 August 2008, 08:50 PM
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Get a new Syphon for your cistern. The new ones are smaller and can have dual-flush capabilities. ALL syphons, by design, can overflow internally. It's just that the older, 9lt ones, were too big to do so. The new, smaller ones, can (as I have done downstairs here). Syphons also have the advantage of just 'not working' when they have problems, rather than leaking water down the loo. A problem if you're on a meter - which, to me at any rate, will become compulsory in the next couple of years. **
** - the fact that the water companies lose 30%+ of water before it even reaches your house seems to have escaped those in power. Instead it's 'let the mugs pay' as usual ....
Dave
PS: but if a 'turbo flush' floats your boat then go right ahead ... bet you come out smiling after using it whilst still sitting down ....
** - the fact that the water companies lose 30%+ of water before it even reaches your house seems to have escaped those in power. Instead it's 'let the mugs pay' as usual ....
Dave
PS: but if a 'turbo flush' floats your boat then go right ahead ... bet you come out smiling after using it whilst still sitting down ....
06 August 2008, 02:24 PM
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Get a new Syphon for your cistern. The new ones are smaller and can have dual-flush capabilities. ALL syphons, by design, can overflow internally. It's just that the older, 9lt ones, were too big to do so. The new, smaller ones, can (as I have done downstairs here). Syphons also have the advantage of just 'not working' when they have problems, rather than leaking water down the loo. A problem if you're on a meter - which, to me at any rate, will become compulsory in the next couple of years. **
** - the fact that the water companies lose 30%+ of water before it even reaches your house seems to have escaped those in power. Instead it's 'let the mugs pay' as usual ....
Dave
PS: but if a 'turbo flush' floats your boat then go right ahead ... bet you come out smiling after using it whilst still sitting down ....
** - the fact that the water companies lose 30%+ of water before it even reaches your house seems to have escaped those in power. Instead it's 'let the mugs pay' as usual ....
Dave
PS: but if a 'turbo flush' floats your boat then go right ahead ... bet you come out smiling after using it whilst still sitting down ....
Thanks for that Mart-I will look into doing all that, fed up of the rubbish worn out siphon jobber anyway.
Les