No joking this time. Qantas 7474 emergency descent..
25 July 2008, 09:54 AM
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No joking this time. Qantas 7474 emergency descent..
BBC NEWS | World | Asia-Pacific | Hole forces Qantas plane to land 
Good job the crew. Tough old birds those 747's!
Good job the crew. Tough old birds those 747's!
25 July 2008, 10:18 AM
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Kin Ell anyone feel a draft in here
well done to all the crew, all I can say is my Ar$e would have been keeping up with the enginesCheers
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25 July 2008, 10:21 AM
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Flightman, do you think the increase in aviation fuel costs has led any airlines to compromise on safety, or are aircraft checks still as rigorous as ever?
25 July 2008, 10:54 AM
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Just been reading this on Sky News, plunging 20,000 feet must have been a bit of a shock. Every time I read of panic on an airplane I can't help but think of the panicking scene in the film Airplane. Imagine having to get back on another plane to finish your journey after that. I was going to say i'd get a boat the rest of the way but with the Phillipines record on ferries actually i'd rather get back on a plane!
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Glad the pilots managed to get it down safely! 
25 July 2008, 12:02 PM
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To those people reading reports of "plunging 20,000ft " It's media bullsh!t.
The aircraft was a 30,000ft and breathable air is around 10,000ft. So it rapidly descended ( not plunged ) under the pilots control to where it was safe for passengers to remove the masks. A guy on Radio 5 earlier who was on the flight said " Well, you could tell we were descending, but nothing more than on a normal flight "
Like I said, media bullshi!t.
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25 July 2008, 12:15 PM
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If it was a 747C variant it will already be within the Ageing Airplane Program, which was a Boeing initiative to increase the level of inspections regarding the structural integrity of older aircraft.
The 747 itself is indeed a tough old bird however I would place emphasis on the "old" within that statement.....
The 747 itself is indeed a tough old bird however I would place emphasis on the "old" within that statement.....
25 July 2008, 12:15 PM
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25 July 2008, 12:18 PM
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What exactly is it you do flightman, you appear to have a fantastic knowledge of airplanes.
I doubt a birdstrike could happen at 30000+ft and it would have to be a bloody big bird to cause 2.5-3m of damage. I'm no expert though.
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I doubt a birdstrike could happen at 30000+ft and it would have to be a bloody big bird to cause 2.5-3m of damage. I'm no expert though.
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25 July 2008, 12:24 PM
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If it was a 747C variant it will already be within the Ageing Airplane Program, which was a Boeing initiative to increase the level of inspections regarding the structural integrity of older aircraft.
The 747 itself is indeed a tough old bird however I would place emphasis on the "old" within that statement.....
The 747 itself is indeed a tough old bird however I would place emphasis on the "old" within that statement.....
Its also the same a/c that ran off the runway in Bangkok in 1999.
25 July 2008, 12:26 PM
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I thought it was VH-OJK? It has just come out of maintenance in Australia where it had serious corrosion problems found during an IFE upgrade.
25 July 2008, 12:31 PM
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For a second I thought it was yet "another" 747 cargo door failure. On closer inspection the door is perfectly intact.
Is there a vent located around there on the underside?
Is there a vent located around there on the underside?
25 July 2008, 12:32 PM
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I'd be astonished it it was as bird strike. Normally there is blood and remnants splattered across the area hit, so I doubt it very much. 30,000ft is just too high.
I'd guess ( and it is just a guess ) it's an issue with the cargo door. Something similar happened to a UA 747 out of LAX in 1989. IIRC Accident Investigation did a programme on it. Same sort of scenario. A "bang/thump" loss of cabin pressure. Rapid decent to a safe landing. I think in that incident debris meant two engines were shutdown. That didn't happen in this case.
And as Jacko's mate knows, I don't possess one a/c registration of any note!
I'd guess ( and it is just a guess ) it's an issue with the cargo door. Something similar happened to a UA 747 out of LAX in 1989. IIRC Accident Investigation did a programme on it. Same sort of scenario. A "bang/thump" loss of cabin pressure. Rapid decent to a safe landing. I think in that incident debris meant two engines were shutdown. That didn't happen in this case.
And as Jacko's mate knows, I don't possess one a/c registration of any note!
25 July 2008, 12:39 PM
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