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FlightMan 25 July 2008 09:54 AM

No joking this time. Qantas 7474 emergency descent..
 
BBC NEWS | World | Asia-Pacific | Hole forces Qantas plane to land :notworthy


Good job the crew. Tough old birds those 747's! :luxhello:

DCI Gene Hunt 25 July 2008 09:56 AM


''There was a rush of wind as the air pressure came down. It got people's attention"
It would focus the mind somewhat ;)

f1_fan 25 July 2008 10:01 AM

Flightman, A new username perhaps? My I suggest Clairvoyant? ;)

j4ckos mate 25 July 2008 10:06 AM

dont believe you this time

Scoob99 25 July 2008 10:18 AM

:eek2: Kin Ell anyone feel a draft in here:D well done to all the crew, all I can say is my Ar$e would have been keeping up with the engines:D
Cheers
Colin

pimmo2000 25 July 2008 10:18 AM

How many will sue !!

lozgti 25 July 2008 10:21 AM


Originally Posted by pimmo2000 (Post 8028487)
How many will sue !!

I know.Aren't humans complete ar**s nowadays.As if being alive isn't good enough.

Well done pilots (who must have been thinking 'please stay on wing,please stay on')

Nat 25 July 2008 10:31 AM

How strange!

Bit of excitement ending in a safe landing is always nice to see :D

TelBoy 25 July 2008 10:33 AM

Flightman, do you think the increase in aviation fuel costs has led any airlines to compromise on safety, or are aircraft checks still as rigorous as ever?

Bravo2zero_sps 25 July 2008 10:54 AM

Just been reading this on Sky News, plunging 20,000 feet must have been a bit of a shock. Every time I read of panic on an airplane I can't help but think of the panicking scene in the film Airplane. Imagine having to get back on another plane to finish your journey after that. I was going to say i'd get a boat the rest of the way but with the Phillipines record on ferries actually i'd rather get back on a plane!

andys 25 July 2008 10:56 AM

wonder if its terroist related?

billythekid 25 July 2008 11:42 AM

Looks like bird strike damage to me.

SirFozzalot 25 July 2008 11:43 AM

Scary stuff! :eek: Glad the pilots managed to get it down safely! :notworthy

movi-star 25 July 2008 11:47 AM

Looks like something has gone bang in the Luggage holdall, could have been deliberate.

FlightMan 25 July 2008 12:02 PM


Originally Posted by TelBoy (Post 8028544)
Flightman, do you think the increase in aviation fuel costs has led any airlines to compromise on safety, or are aircraft checks still as rigorous as ever?

All I'll say is that I was offered QF to Melbourne on a business trip earlier this year. I politely declined and went BA via Sydney instead.

To those people reading reports of "plunging 20,000ft " It's media bullsh!t.

The aircraft was a 30,000ft and breathable air is around 10,000ft. So it rapidly descended ( not plunged ) under the pilots control to where it was safe for passengers to remove the masks. A guy on Radio 5 earlier who was on the flight said " Well, you could tell we were descending, but nothing more than on a normal flight "

Like I said, media bullshi!t. :mad:

TelBoy 25 July 2008 12:05 PM

Yeah but on heresay or what you know for a fact?

DCI Gene Hunt 25 July 2008 12:15 PM

If it was a 747C variant it will already be within the Ageing Airplane Program, which was a Boeing initiative to increase the level of inspections regarding the structural integrity of older aircraft.

The 747 itself is indeed a tough old bird however I would place emphasis on the "old" within that statement..... ;)

FlightMan 25 July 2008 12:15 PM


Originally Posted by TelBoy (Post 8028784)
Yeah but on heresay or what you know for a fact?

What I know, and what I'll say here are two different things. I did fly, quite happily I'll add, QF on 4 separate flights whilst in OZ.

You can draw your own conclusions. :thumb:

TelBoy 25 July 2008 12:18 PM

I hate riddles :mad: Spit it out man :D

Account deleted by request 25 July 2008 12:18 PM

What exactly is it you do flightman, you appear to have a fantastic knowledge of airplanes.

I doubt a birdstrike could happen at 30000+ft and it would have to be a bloody big bird to cause 2.5-3m of damage. I'm no expert though.

chop :)

j4ckos mate 25 July 2008 12:22 PM

he is a plane spotter

FlightMan 25 July 2008 12:24 PM


Originally Posted by DCI Gene Hunt (Post 8028804)
If it was a 747C variant it will already be within the Ageing Airplane Program, which was a Boeing initiative to increase the level of inspections regarding the structural integrity of older aircraft.

The 747 itself is indeed a tough old bird however I would place emphasis on the "old" within that statement..... ;)

I believe the a/c was VH-OJH. First flight was 1990 so its not an old aircraft.

Its also the same a/c that ran off the runway in Bangkok in 1999.

KiwiGTI 25 July 2008 12:26 PM


Originally Posted by FlightMan (Post 8028828)
I believe the a/c was VH-OJH. First flight was 1990 so its not an old aircraft.

Its also the same a/c that ran off the runway in Bangkok in 1999.

I thought it was VH-OJK? It has just come out of maintenance in Australia where it had serious corrosion problems found during an IFE upgrade.

Shark Man 25 July 2008 12:31 PM

For a second I thought it was yet "another" 747 cargo door failure. On closer inspection the door is perfectly intact.

Is there a vent located around there on the underside?

FlightMan 25 July 2008 12:32 PM

I'd be astonished it it was as bird strike. Normally there is blood and remnants splattered across the area hit, so I doubt it very much. 30,000ft is just too high.

I'd guess ( and it is just a guess ) it's an issue with the cargo door. Something similar happened to a UA 747 out of LAX in 1989. IIRC Accident Investigation did a programme on it. Same sort of scenario. A "bang/thump" loss of cabin pressure. Rapid decent to a safe landing. I think in that incident debris meant two engines were shutdown. That didn't happen in this case.

And as Jacko's mate knows, I don't possess one a/c registration of any note!

FlightMan 25 July 2008 12:39 PM


Originally Posted by KiwiGTI (Post 8028832)
I thought it was VH-OJK? It has just come out of maintenance in Australia where it had serious corrosion problems found during an IFE upgrade.

Kiwi, yes, your spot on. I've just spoken to a QF contact at LHR and it's OJK.

First flew 1991 and has just had an overhaul. :thumb:

FlightMan 25 July 2008 12:43 PM

OK, nothing to do with the cargo door. :eek2: What do you think the pilot is thinking? "SHEEEET" springs to mind.

http://images.theage.com.au/2008/07/...ntas-620x0.jpg

DCI Gene Hunt 25 July 2008 12:51 PM

...are they bags I can see in the hole? I thought they all went inside baggage containers..... :confused:

TelBoy 25 July 2008 12:53 PM

I know feck all about planes, but i'm surprised this sort of thing doesn't happen a lot more regularly on something that moves along at 500mph+

DCI Gene Hunt 25 July 2008 12:55 PM

There isn't much between you and the outside either....
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/d...3/IM0003-a.jpg


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