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Old 06 June 2008, 08:22 PM
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Unhappy Oil surges past $138 barrel....

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I was reading only yesterday that the price was coming down which I was pleased about, only to find it's rocking again and is set for $150/barrel in under a month - which I guess puts diesel at 140p/litre

Oil surges more than $10 to record over $138 | U.S. | Reuters

This is getting silly! How can so many things go up in price so much, in such a short period!!!

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Old 06 June 2008, 10:03 PM
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They are betting on $150 a barrel

This will result in a worldwide recession, I'm sure of it.
Old 06 June 2008, 10:22 PM
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Where is all this money going ?????

I sincerely hope that this spurs on developments of other technology, the announcement about the new wind farms was positive news, people will get used to them, especially if its a choice about some big windmills or the telly going off.
Old 06 June 2008, 10:25 PM
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The fuel cell can't come quickly enough
Old 07 June 2008, 12:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Petem95
This is getting silly! How can so many things go up in price so much, in such a short period!!!
except houses obviously, but hey - you are the guy who has been spouting property crash for the past 5 years. Where do you reckon all the big hitters who used to speculate on property are speculating now? Black black oil they say.... Texas tea.... - Can you explain the dynamics behind this?









(no - thought not )
Old 07 June 2008, 01:17 AM
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Originally Posted by NotoriousREV
The fuel cell can't come quickly enough
which will run on....?
Old 07 June 2008, 01:18 AM
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inflation hedging against dollar ....
Old 07 June 2008, 08:01 AM
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I was at a wedding last week and met a lawyer and accountant both working in the oil industry in senior positions. Both insisted there is no supply or production issues, there is more than enough oil to go around, its pure speculation
Old 07 June 2008, 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Deep Singh
I was at a wedding last week and met a lawyer and accountant both working in the oil industry in senior positions. Both insisted there is no supply or production issues, there is more than enough oil to go around, its pure speculation
When i go to weddings, i normally get slaughtered and oogle the bridesmaids...


edited to say: yes, you can take the word of a lawyer and accountant, cant you??
Old 07 June 2008, 08:51 AM
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i have just read that the head of shell has commentated that oil is not running out and the reasons for price increases are political
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Originally Posted by hutton_d
Positive? You are 'avin a larf!!!! So, all these big windmills are up and ruining the landscape and the wind doesn't blow. What does your TV run on then???

Dave
the recharged batteries

have we not ruined the landscape enough allready anyway?

this used to be all fields when i was a lad
Old 07 June 2008, 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by warrenm2
which will run on....?
Hydrogen electrolysed from water using nuclear power.
Old 07 June 2008, 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Deep Singh
I was at a wedding last week and met a lawyer and accountant both working in the oil industry in senior positions. Both insisted there is no supply or production issues, there is more than enough oil to go around, its pure speculation
I read an article the other day, wish I can't find now dammit , that said there are tankers floating around the Gulf full of petrol and diesel, with nowhere to go, yet. So if true, it's not a demand issue. Speculators simply trying to prop up their fortunes etc, and are making things difficult for the vast majority of us.
Old 07 June 2008, 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by WRX_Dazza
When i go to weddings, i normally get slaughtered and oogle the bridesmaids...


edited to say: yes, you can take the word of a lawyer and accountant, cant you??
Who said I didn't to the above aswell?

These guys are very high up in their organisations and the lawyer is my best friends brother. They had no reason to lie to me, I'm a nobody. I asked them why the price of oil was rising so quickly and they both said exactly the same thing. I have no reason to disbelieve them
Old 07 June 2008, 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by hutton_d
Positive? You are 'avin a larf!!!! So, all these big windmills are up and ruining the landscape and the wind doesn't blow. What does your TV run on then???

Dave
I think you will find they have thought of that, they consider the placement and they don't need that much wind to generate meaningful amounts of power, you are comparing the wind blowing with oil, the premise being that the oil supply is always going to be stable, we are seeing blockades starting and at the moment they keep telling us there is enough to go around, five years hence will that be the case ?

As for ruining the landscape, thats why they are placing them offshore, we go fishing off Rhyl near the installation there and they aren't really a blot as they cant really be seen easily from the shore.

We can either continue to be held to ransom by Russian Oligarchs, Speculators, world demand and Opec or we can generate our own energy, clean energy that wont run out, guess what, the oil WILL run out, maybe not in our lifetimes but it will and a country that harnesses wind energy, thats sat in some of the windiest waters in the world will be in a good position, potentially we could end up selling energy to other countries.

Oil is a dying Duck, too many people scrabbling over whats left with greedy companies hiking the prices up, todays oil prices are the wake up call (well perhaps about the tenth wake up call) that we need to use what advantages we have got.

And don't forget that a number of new Nuclear plants have been commissioned, so go and stick some money in shares of companies that work in this area.
Old 07 June 2008, 11:17 AM
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Nuclear powered cars anyone?

Will go on forever and ever .......
Old 07 June 2008, 11:17 AM
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When you buy a barrel of oil, what are you buying? Current or future? At this moment in time there is no need for oil to be so expensive: The cost of extraction is the same (apart from perversely the cost of energy) so there shouldn't be such a rise.

If, however, I am securing a barrel of oil in 5 years where the cost is not known, that makes a bit more sense.

Steve
Old 07 June 2008, 12:42 PM
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If the price suddenly drops through the floor, surely all those doing the hedging will catch a very nasty cold won't they.

Far be it from me to say "serve them right"!

Les
Old 07 June 2008, 01:42 PM
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Anyone here shorting oil at present? Anyone thinking of doing?
Old 07 June 2008, 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by PetesMum
Nuclear powered cars anyone?

Will go on forever and ever .......
well there is this.....





Seriously though gawd knows whats gonna happen if it goes up further.

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Old 07 June 2008, 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by PetesMum
Nuclear powered cars anyone?

Will go on forever and ever .......
Ford developed one in the 1950's!....

Ford Nucleon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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