Death of the Muscaline Man?
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Death of the Muscaline Man?
A study of the male psyche in Britain over the past 80 years has revealed a shocking insight into the masculinity of blokes today.
The results of the study show that over the last 80 years men have steadily lost touch with their instinctual masculinity and the traditional roles that defined them, as they’ve put down their handyman tools, lost their foothold as the ‘man of the house’, become obsessed with their image and abandoned emotional restraint.
An average young bloke in the 1920s and 40s considered himself to be masculine and was at ease with his role as stoic provider and protector. He was adept at traditional ‘manly’ chores, with 73 per cent competent at motor mechanics, 90 per cent able to change a fuse and 80 per cent able to put up a shelf for his Mrs. He was the head of his household and would rather die than cry in front of someone, with half never shedding a tear at all. When it came to the home, only 25 per cent knew how to turn the iron on and just 27 per cent were comfortable in the kitchen.
Over the decades a lot has changed - these days, the young British bloke is more comfortable ironing than getting under his car bonnet. Over 60 per cent are competent ironers, with only 10 per cent able to maintain a car - and almost half can’t even change a tyre. Three quarters regularly don an apron in the kitchen and almost 80 per cent take on housework. Young men are so in touch with their emotions, a whopping 85 per cent are comfortable crying in front of others.
Young blokes are also more obsessed with themselves than any other generation, with today’s young gun taking 26 per cent longer in front of the mirror than his counterpart in the 40s and two thirds striving to attain a perfectly toned body.
James Brown, founding editor of men’s magazine, Loaded, which fuelled the 90s era of the ‘Loaded Lad’, believes British blokes have been sliding into the process of what he coins ‘Gender Surrender’:
“A bloke’s masculinity used to come effortlessly and his place in the world was clear cut. Nowadays, women are confident and men are confused. As men have been reacting to being told ‘how they should behave’ rather than ‘how they really are’, they’ve crossed the line from just ‘changing with the times’ to committing outright gender surrender”.
According to report, young British women agree that men have stepped too far into the feminine domain and want their ‘real men’ back, with two thirds of women aged 18-29 complaining they think men are not as masculine as men of yesteryear. A girl also still wants her leading man, with 60 per cent saying they’d prefer a man to take control in their relationship.
“There’s no need for men to head back to the cave”, Brown says, “but it’s clear from the research that a more defined identity needs to be established.”
Do you agree? Do you think we men should take a look at ourself?
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The results of the study show that over the last 80 years men have steadily lost touch with their instinctual masculinity and the traditional roles that defined them, as they’ve put down their handyman tools, lost their foothold as the ‘man of the house’, become obsessed with their image and abandoned emotional restraint.
An average young bloke in the 1920s and 40s considered himself to be masculine and was at ease with his role as stoic provider and protector. He was adept at traditional ‘manly’ chores, with 73 per cent competent at motor mechanics, 90 per cent able to change a fuse and 80 per cent able to put up a shelf for his Mrs. He was the head of his household and would rather die than cry in front of someone, with half never shedding a tear at all. When it came to the home, only 25 per cent knew how to turn the iron on and just 27 per cent were comfortable in the kitchen.
Over the decades a lot has changed - these days, the young British bloke is more comfortable ironing than getting under his car bonnet. Over 60 per cent are competent ironers, with only 10 per cent able to maintain a car - and almost half can’t even change a tyre. Three quarters regularly don an apron in the kitchen and almost 80 per cent take on housework. Young men are so in touch with their emotions, a whopping 85 per cent are comfortable crying in front of others.
Young blokes are also more obsessed with themselves than any other generation, with today’s young gun taking 26 per cent longer in front of the mirror than his counterpart in the 40s and two thirds striving to attain a perfectly toned body.
James Brown, founding editor of men’s magazine, Loaded, which fuelled the 90s era of the ‘Loaded Lad’, believes British blokes have been sliding into the process of what he coins ‘Gender Surrender’:
“A bloke’s masculinity used to come effortlessly and his place in the world was clear cut. Nowadays, women are confident and men are confused. As men have been reacting to being told ‘how they should behave’ rather than ‘how they really are’, they’ve crossed the line from just ‘changing with the times’ to committing outright gender surrender”.
According to report, young British women agree that men have stepped too far into the feminine domain and want their ‘real men’ back, with two thirds of women aged 18-29 complaining they think men are not as masculine as men of yesteryear. A girl also still wants her leading man, with 60 per cent saying they’d prefer a man to take control in their relationship.
“There’s no need for men to head back to the cave”, Brown says, “but it’s clear from the research that a more defined identity needs to be established.”
Do you agree? Do you think we men should take a look at ourself?
Shof
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I think its mostly a barrel of ****e.
The reason why most men know more about ironing than cars is that going under the bonnet of your old Mark 1 Escort is a world away from trying to decipher the advanced electronics of your average car today.
I think most men are still men. Ok, the odd one stil hasn't shaved his head, or uses face cream and the like, but I think most of us still drink beer, **** women and watch football.
The reason why most men know more about ironing than cars is that going under the bonnet of your old Mark 1 Escort is a world away from trying to decipher the advanced electronics of your average car today.
I think most men are still men. Ok, the odd one stil hasn't shaved his head, or uses face cream and the like, but I think most of us still drink beer, **** women and watch football.
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after reading that it did make sense. even today a bunch of young teenage lads walked into my shop and all looked like a bunch of girls. al with their hair straightened. 'emo' its caled.
i think slowly mascalinity is dying out.
although i can do all of the things including mechanics and diy. and i will/do protect my family and loved ones. i even had my car kicked in whilst looking after my girlfriend.
but then again i can do everything around the house if needed
i think slowly mascalinity is dying out.
although i can do all of the things including mechanics and diy. and i will/do protect my family and loved ones. i even had my car kicked in whilst looking after my girlfriend.
but then again i can do everything around the house if needed
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OK, looks like I'm in a time warp.
I know how most of my car works, can change a bulb and a fuse, can wire a plug. I know where my food comes from, ie the nearest field, and I can barely cook.
I only cry when I fill the car up
Oh and I have the perfect body,,, perfectly fat.
I know how most of my car works, can change a bulb and a fuse, can wire a plug. I know where my food comes from, ie the nearest field, and I can barely cook.
I only cry when I fill the car up
Oh and I have the perfect body,,, perfectly fat.
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Ha, if a modern man came home these days and expects his wife to have his food on the table becasue he's the 'head of the house' he'd be kicked out on his ****.
Women are the problem, equal rights and all...
Women are the problem, equal rights and all...
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I would say that is true if they were only talking about Footballer's..They are Nancy Boys..what it's saying is,that women still prefer..The Yorkie Men,Lumberjack type.Can go out and chop wood all day long in the forest,and come home at the end of the day,and not worry if he's hair is out of place...
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Women can work, but men can't have babies.
And women have to work in order to fund the mortgage. No wonder there's a role change in most families.
And women have to work in order to fund the mortgage. No wonder there's a role change in most families.
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I have to agree with some of it.
In the animal kingdom (excluding humankind) the male and females of most species have clearly defined roles and a state of balance exists.
Humankind, however, is different in that there was never true balance (men dominated, women were subserviant) and now there is such a diversity of ability between the sexes that true confusion exists on a basic instinctive scale, and there are no clearly defined roles any more.
I'm all in favour of today's man being able to iron, cook and clean, but I think they should also be aware of being "men" Just as women should be able to do all that they can but still be aware of being "women"
Otherwise, where's the appeal? And what use is a man who brakes down and cries when his family is faced with a "threat" ? (well, unless he can cook up a nice meal after his wife has given the "threat" a good kicking and dried his eyes)
I have to agree with some of it.
In the animal kingdom (excluding humankind) the male and females of most species have clearly defined roles and a state of balance exists.
Humankind, however, is different in that there was never true balance (men dominated, women were subserviant) and now there is such a diversity of ability between the sexes that true confusion exists on a basic instinctive scale, and there are no clearly defined roles any more.
I'm all in favour of today's man being able to iron, cook and clean, but I think they should also be aware of being "men" Just as women should be able to do all that they can but still be aware of being "women"
Otherwise, where's the appeal? And what use is a man who brakes down and cries when his family is faced with a "threat" ? (well, unless he can cook up a nice meal after his wife has given the "threat" a good kicking and dried his eyes)
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Well, being an old bloke I can state - quite clearly - that my generation is populated by masculine men.
Todays boys are in touch with their feminine side, they are happy to hug each other ......... not saying this is wrong either - just in my day that would not happen!
So, I agree that men are not men anymore ....... teens are really mixed gender, 20 somethings are rather feminine too. I can still take a car apart - even a modern one, it holds no fear for me - but Ironing?? That's for the little lady indoors!!
Lets get back to being MEN!!! MEN, - true men don't worry about which Oil, what Tyre or if they have used the wrong fuel for their map ...... they get on with it!
Todays boys are in touch with their feminine side, they are happy to hug each other ......... not saying this is wrong either - just in my day that would not happen!
So, I agree that men are not men anymore ....... teens are really mixed gender, 20 somethings are rather feminine too. I can still take a car apart - even a modern one, it holds no fear for me - but Ironing?? That's for the little lady indoors!!
Lets get back to being MEN!!! MEN, - true men don't worry about which Oil, what Tyre or if they have used the wrong fuel for their map ...... they get on with it!
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Well, being an old bloke I can state - quite clearly - that my generation is populated by masculine men.
Todays boys are in touch with their feminine side, they are happy to hug each other ......... not saying this is wrong either - just in my day that would not happen!
So, I agree that men are not men anymore ....... teens are really mixed gender, 20 somethings are rather feminine too. I can still take a car apart - even a modern one, it holds no fear for me - but Ironing?? That's for the little lady indoors!!
Lets get back to being MEN!!! MEN, - true men don't worry about which Oil, what Tyre or if they have used the wrong fuel for their map ...... they get on with it!
Todays boys are in touch with their feminine side, they are happy to hug each other ......... not saying this is wrong either - just in my day that would not happen!
So, I agree that men are not men anymore ....... teens are really mixed gender, 20 somethings are rather feminine too. I can still take a car apart - even a modern one, it holds no fear for me - but Ironing?? That's for the little lady indoors!!
Lets get back to being MEN!!! MEN, - true men don't worry about which Oil, what Tyre or if they have used the wrong fuel for their map ...... they get on with it!
AMEN...Im surprised no scooby girls have came in and had a little comment about it..
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The problem is for you men that us wimmins want it all these days, we want the big, burly masculine cave man who can look after us and earn us a decent crust, but we also want him to understand us when we're upset and moody, cook us beautiful meals without being asked, follow us round shops all day without moaning or looking pissed off and iron our clothes when we're still busy faffing about with our make-up. And of course it's imperative that he looks fanfappingtastic at all times
It's not hard is it?
It's not hard is it?
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Apparently not these days for many men, no!
And that was the lesser of two crude replies I had lined up!
All is well with this man: to quote Bobby Davro:
I like my women like my Whiskey: 18 years old and mixed up with coke!
And that was the lesser of two crude replies I had lined up!
All is well with this man: to quote Bobby Davro:
I like my women like my Whiskey: 18 years old and mixed up with coke!
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The problem is for you men that us wimmins want it all these days, we want the big, burly masculine cave man who can look after us and earn us a decent crust, but we also want him to understand us when we're upset and moody, cook us beautiful meals without being asked, follow us round shops all day without moaning or looking pissed off and iron our clothes when we're still busy faffing about with our make-up. And of course it's imperative that he looks fanfappingtastic at all times
It's not hard is it?
It's not hard is it?
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Quote Renton from Trainspotting
"The world is changing, music is changin, drugs are changing, even men and women are changing. One thousand years from now there'll be no guys and no girls, just *******."
Cant say i've noticed men becoming more femanine, but I have noticed women looking more like blokes as seeing a woman in a skirt these days is a rare occurance!
"The world is changing, music is changin, drugs are changing, even men and women are changing. One thousand years from now there'll be no guys and no girls, just *******."
Cant say i've noticed men becoming more femanine, but I have noticed women looking more like blokes as seeing a woman in a skirt these days is a rare occurance!
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The problem is for you men that us wimmins want it all these days, we want the big, burly masculine cave man who can look after us and earn us a decent crust, but we also want him to understand us when we're upset and moody, cook us beautiful meals without being asked, follow us round shops all day without moaning or looking pissed off and iron our clothes when we're still busy faffing about with our make-up. And of course it's imperative that he looks fanfappingtastic at all times
It's not hard is it?
It's not hard is it?
Typical women, can't make their minds up!
What wrong with men being men, or more appropriately, Gentlemen?
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its been a downward slope since women got the vote and working mens clubs had to have women members
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if wife reads this then i dont belive it at all
its been a downward slope since women got the vote and working mens clubs had to have women members
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if wife reads this then i dont belive it at all
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I have to agree. You only have to look at some of the posts on SN to understand its not just teenagers suffering from this. Men have been dying out for a lot longer.
The country is made up of largely jessies now and it doesn't look set to change anytime soon.
The country is made up of largely jessies now and it doesn't look set to change anytime soon.
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Are you talking about me wearing a thong again ?
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