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Old 19 March 2008, 05:35 PM
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What does the old swallow (or at least some kind of bird) tattoo mean when it's on an individuals hand between thumb and forefinger?

Is it a special sign to say they're claiming benefits or something? I've only ever seen it on ropey looking blokes who you wouldn't want to employ!

Can anyone enlighten me?
Old 19 March 2008, 05:37 PM
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ask them and let us know
Old 19 March 2008, 05:39 PM
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Always thought it was a sign of being "inside" like theyre proud of it etc

Jail Bird is the meaning, no?
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I think I know what it means if a woman has one!
Old 19 March 2008, 05:41 PM
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I generally see them on the older Warrant officers.
Old 19 March 2008, 05:44 PM
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I thought it was a Borstal thing?
Old 19 March 2008, 05:45 PM
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tends to be something sailors had i believe. Swallows are often only seen over land so to see a swallow meant the sailors knew they were near land. The had them as tattoos in case they were lost to the sea it's believed the swallows would carry their souls back to the surface. Think that's why they tend to be seen in pairs as well.
Old 19 March 2008, 05:50 PM
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A couple of older guys i work with have these.

They are east londoners and definitily not sailors LOL

I will ask them when i get the chance I think you could be right about
the prison thing
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Originally Posted by Turbo Dave
A couple of older guys i work with have these.

They are east londoners and definitily not sailors LOL

I will ask them when i get the chance I think you could be right about
the prison thing

I'm just saying that's the origin. Not the reason for why some people have them now.
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Originally Posted by STi wanna Subaru
tends to be something sailors had i believe. Swallows are often only seen over land so to see a swallow meant the sailors knew they were near land. The had them as tattoos in case they were lost to the sea it's believed the swallows would carry their souls back to the surface. Think that's why they tend to be seen in pairs as well.
Regardless of whether it's true or not, it's a wonderful story
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various opinions here.

WikiAnswers - What is the symbolism of a swallow tattoo
Old 19 March 2008, 05:56 PM
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Hmmmm - OK - my other half has a swallow on his hand - and so do a couple of his friends. Neither of them are sailors - infact, LOL, my other half has never the left the country - the closest he gets to sea is fishing from the beach
Nor has he been inside for a stretch and he's also got a job - and he's not a chav either (not a hint of burberry in sight)

He is however from London and grew up in Highbury - I think, he once said his dad had that tattoo and his dad was quite quite known in certain areas.

Then again - my other half is pushing 40 and he got that done over 20 years ago - and some years back, tattoos were more of a "stamp" than art...... (yes I know not everyone likes them lalala).

Why the question anyway?
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Originally Posted by STi wanna Subaru
I'm just saying that's the origin. Not the reason for why some people have them now.
Yes im not questioning that.
I just hadnt ever thought there were anything more than a tattoo.
But thinking of these individuals they fit the bill.
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Originally Posted by Scooby Snacks 23
Regardless of whether it's true or not, it's a wonderful story
I have many a yarn to charm the ladies
Old 19 March 2008, 06:03 PM
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its a sign that they have stayed in one of her majestys hotels and seen some bum action
Old 19 March 2008, 06:06 PM
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oh and the bird is a swallow , i dont know if theres a bird called a spiy though
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Its a sign, much like todays tribal tattooes, that the bearer has no imagination and just went with the same one their mates had when they went to the tatooist.

The welsh valleys version is MAM and DAD formed into a cross, or MADE IN WALES on their neck.
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Originally Posted by STi wanna Subaru
tends to be something sailors had i believe. Swallows are often only seen over land so to see a swallow meant the sailors knew they were near land. The had them as tattoos in case they were lost to the sea it's believed the swallows would carry their souls back to the surface. Think that's why they tend to be seen in pairs as well.
the swallows were believed to carry their souls to heaven, and one swallow was a sailor that travelled 5000 miles and 2 swallows was a 10k+ veteran of the seas.

just a fashion item for thuggery i guess now!!
Old 19 March 2008, 06:09 PM
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Right i shall go into work tomorrow and say to them Hello Sailor.

If they dont lamp me one i know it to be true.
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Originally Posted by Turbo Dave
Right i shall go into work tomorrow and say to them Hello Sailor.

If they dont lamp me one i know it to be true.
try and slip a few nautical words in like "starboard" and "sheets to the wind" beforehand to gauge reaction beforehand !!! lol
Old 19 March 2008, 06:16 PM
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Old 19 March 2008, 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by WRX_Dazza
Why has she got a gun in her mouth? Surely my **** would be safer if it went off.
Old 19 March 2008, 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Odds on
Why has she got a gun in her mouth? Surely my **** would be safer if it went off.
Not if both were firing blanks

Old 19 March 2008, 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Odds on
Why has she got a gun in her mouth? Surely my **** would be safer if it went off.

Old 19 March 2008, 09:18 PM
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It means you've 'done bird' i.e time. It is a tattoo worn proudly by ex cons to show their affiliation to criminality.

Can be seen on the neck also. It is not a sailor sign in the modern times I expect.
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depends which way its facing, for prison and borstal iirc.
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i had wondered the same thing. lots of skinheads i know have them, and lots of people who have been involed in the scooter/skinhead/ska scene over the years

...i've never asked though
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