Cameron's Budget Response
12 March 2008, 02:46 PM
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Ditto, far sharper than Mr Darlings attempt at the speech.
Did like Nick Cleggs comments on congratulating Gordon Brown on delivering HIS budget through Darling without seeing his lips move.
Cameron did however raise a few good issues.
The city has responded by stating they are quite worried about things.
Did like Nick Cleggs comments on congratulating Gordon Brown on delivering HIS budget through Darling without seeing his lips move.
Cameron did however raise a few good issues.
The city has responded by stating they are quite worried about things.
12 March 2008, 04:01 PM
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Yes, people are having to tighten their belts at the moment, but atleast they have trousers to pull up, unlike when we were governed by the tories!
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12 March 2008, 05:39 PM
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I couldn't give 2 f&cks about how good his speech was. Very easy to pick holes when they have nothing to lose........or have they forgotten the thatcher years.
Yes, people are having to tighten their belts at the moment, but atleast they have trousers to pull up, unlike when we were governed by the tories!
Yes, people are having to tighten their belts at the moment, but atleast they have trousers to pull up, unlike when we were governed by the tories!
Things have moved on, and as was pointed out, Labour have proudly boasted success as there has been an economical boom over recent years, but suddenly they want nothing to do with the responsibility of the country's economical state now its in decline.
Also regardless of having anything to lose or not, forgetting to mention the funds used for Northern Rock when disclosing the borrowing figures for the year, and trying to claim success while announcing a £7 billion rise in borrowing, is hardly getting it right either.
Maybe they have something better to offer these days, like Obama says.,.... change! Labour is stale, its old, its full of deceipt, and as Nick Clegg said, Gordon Brown delivered a budget without moving his lips!
As for how good the speech was..... character, thats what it shows. Something neither Flash or Oh Darling have. Like a hooky accountant, they just sat there, fiddled the figures and tried to deliver something special, and hide all the bad.
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12 March 2008, 05:43 PM
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Deep rooted hatred I suspect, all the way to the bottom of the pits!
Speaking of which, if only time could be turned back and we could see what Labout REALLY would have done at the time....
As said.... "Very easy to pick holes when they have nothing to lose"
Speaking of which, if only time could be turned back and we could see what Labout REALLY would have done at the time....
As said.... "Very easy to pick holes when they have nothing to lose"
12 March 2008, 05:49 PM
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just watched cameron's response in full. that was an exceptionally articulate fisking job on both darling & brown. i doubt they will have enjoyed being skewered like that. and ed ***** was just made to look like the frothing, pop-eyed pillock he is.
12 March 2008, 05:50 PM
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I couldn't give 2 f&cks about how good his speech was. Very easy to pick holes when they have nothing to lose........or have they forgotten the thatcher years.
Yes, people are having to tighten their belts at the moment, but atleast they have trousers to pull up, unlike when we were governed by the tories!
Yes, people are having to tighten their belts at the moment, but atleast they have trousers to pull up, unlike when we were governed by the tories!
Oh the years that she had to put right from the previous labour government .
12 March 2008, 05:54 PM
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I'm all for some capitalism, but I just don't trust the tories.
There hasn't been the ups and down that were around when the blues were in power.
When you look at how much oil has gone up by, it doesn't take a economist to work out how far that increase stretches and how many people it affects.
There hasn't been the ups and down that were around when the blues were in power.
When you look at how much oil has gone up by, it doesn't take a economist to work out how far that increase stretches and how many people it affects.
12 March 2008, 09:03 PM
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lol well thats one way of putting it. However speaking from experience, I have found my quality of life no better whatsoever under Labour ruling... Does that count for anything?
Things have moved on, and as was pointed out, Labour have proudly boasted success as there has been an economical boom over recent years, but suddenly they want nothing to do with the responsibility of the country's economical state now its in decline.
Also regardless of having anything to lose or not, forgetting to mention the funds used for Northern Rock when disclosing the borrowing figures for the year, and trying to claim success while announcing a £7 billion rise in borrowing, is hardly getting it right either.
Maybe they have something better to offer these days, like Obama says.,.... change! Labour is stale, its old, its full of deceipt, and as Nick Clegg said, Gordon Brown delivered a budget without moving his lips!
As for how good the speech was..... character, thats what it shows. Something neither Flash or Oh Darling have. Like a hooky accountant, they just sat there, fiddled the figures and tried to deliver something special, and hide all the bad.
Gutless
Things have moved on, and as was pointed out, Labour have proudly boasted success as there has been an economical boom over recent years, but suddenly they want nothing to do with the responsibility of the country's economical state now its in decline.
Also regardless of having anything to lose or not, forgetting to mention the funds used for Northern Rock when disclosing the borrowing figures for the year, and trying to claim success while announcing a £7 billion rise in borrowing, is hardly getting it right either.
Maybe they have something better to offer these days, like Obama says.,.... change! Labour is stale, its old, its full of deceipt, and as Nick Clegg said, Gordon Brown delivered a budget without moving his lips!
As for how good the speech was..... character, thats what it shows. Something neither Flash or Oh Darling have. Like a hooky accountant, they just sat there, fiddled the figures and tried to deliver something special, and hide all the bad.
Gutless
12 March 2008, 10:09 PM
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I couldn't give 2 f&cks about how good his speech was. Very easy to pick holes when they have nothing to lose........or have they forgotten the thatcher years.
Yes, people are having to tighten their belts at the moment, but atleast they have trousers to pull up, unlike when we were governed by the tories!
Yes, people are having to tighten their belts at the moment, but atleast they have trousers to pull up, unlike when we were governed by the tories!
13 March 2008, 01:33 PM
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I couldn't give 2 f&cks about how good his speech was. Very easy to pick holes when they have nothing to lose........or have they forgotten the thatcher years.
Yes, people are having to tighten their belts at the moment, but atleast they have trousers to pull up, unlike when we were governed by the tories!
Yes, people are having to tighten their belts at the moment, but atleast they have trousers to pull up, unlike when we were governed by the tories!
Whats new of course with this lot of creeps in power!
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13 March 2008, 01:41 PM
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Your extreme bias is showing just how little you really understand about that time and also that the Conservatives left the economy in its strongest position for many years, and your hero has spent the last ten years pissing it against the wall as well has his huge overborrowing to make things look good on the surface. Now that the world economy is sinking, he has saved nothing for the time when we really need it and he has even flogged off half of our national gold reserves at the lowest possible price!
Whats new of course with this lot of creeps in power!
Les
Whats new of course with this lot of creeps in power!
Les
But it was at a big cost - The privatisation of many utilities that shoud not have been touched, and the almost total neglect of public services.
When Labour came to power the NHS had pretty much the lowest GDP commitment in terms of percentage in Europe, it is now about average.
Of course this all has to be paid for, and I thnk to a certain extent, Labour have managed to keep the economy ticking over, whilst spending much, much more on public services. However, they have only been able to do this due to the foundation the Tories built.
THe trouble for me is that there is no overiding joined up thinking with regards to things like public services. I almost think these facilities should be outside party political control, in as much as the budget and incremental increases for the NHS and Transport and such like is set, and cannot be increased or decreased to ridiculous levels depending on who is in power.
What you end up with otherwise is what we have, a roller coster of over and under investemnt rather than a consistant and even handed approach seen in mainland europe.
13 March 2008, 02:17 PM
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I do agree with what you say about the privatisation of the public services and the neglect of the public services. I believe modern politicians are more interested in appearing to do great things and talking it up but not really accepting their real responsibilities with respect to the people of this country.
Les
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13 March 2008, 02:26 PM
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Your extreme bias is showing just how little you really understand about that time and also that the Conservatives left the economy in its strongest position for many years, and your hero has spent the last ten years pissing it against the wall as well has his huge overborrowing to make things look good on the surface. Now that the world economy is sinking, he has saved nothing for the time when we really need it and he has even flogged off half of our national gold reserves at the lowest possible price!
Whats new of course with this lot of creeps in power!
Les
Whats new of course with this lot of creeps in power!
Les
Labour are certainly not my heros. If I had my way, Jack Bauer would be Prime Minister!
Everyone likes to blame the nations problems on the Government instead of looking in the mirror.
We have more crime because there is no deterrent due to the 'do-gooders' having their way.
If someone choses to beat, stab and murder an defenseless old lady for her pin number, what do you think the punishment should be? Personally, I feel that that person has had their chance, blown it and therefore has no rights. But oh no, he must need counciling or a good hug.
We just don't seem to have the ball's to do anything about it for fear of being labelled.
I really couldn't give a toss who runs the country, as long as they try to get things right. That may include going to war to protect ourselves or cutting benifits for lazy tax dodgers. But the more we just sit on the fence not making decisions, the country just continues to go down the toilet.
A person is smart, people are stupid.
13 March 2008, 02:40 PM
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Les, you seem very touchy, did I hit a nerve?
Labour are certainly not my heros. If I had my way, Jack Bauer would be Prime Minister!
Everyone likes to blame the nations problems on the Government instead of looking in the mirror.
We have more crime because there is no deterrent due to the 'do-gooders' having their way.
If someone choses to beat, stab and murder an defenseless old lady for her pin number, what do you think the punishment should be? Personally, I feel that that person has had their chance, blown it and therefore has no rights. But oh no, he must need counciling or a good hug.
We just don't seem to have the ball's to do anything about it for fear of being labelled.
I really couldn't give a toss who runs the country, as long as they try to get things right. That may include going to war to protect ourselves or cutting benifits for lazy tax dodgers. But the more we just sit on the fence not making decisions, the country just continues to go down the toilet.
A person is smart, people are stupid.
Labour are certainly not my heros. If I had my way, Jack Bauer would be Prime Minister!
Everyone likes to blame the nations problems on the Government instead of looking in the mirror.
We have more crime because there is no deterrent due to the 'do-gooders' having their way.
If someone choses to beat, stab and murder an defenseless old lady for her pin number, what do you think the punishment should be? Personally, I feel that that person has had their chance, blown it and therefore has no rights. But oh no, he must need counciling or a good hug.
We just don't seem to have the ball's to do anything about it for fear of being labelled.
I really couldn't give a toss who runs the country, as long as they try to get things right. That may include going to war to protect ourselves or cutting benifits for lazy tax dodgers. But the more we just sit on the fence not making decisions, the country just continues to go down the toilet.
A person is smart, people are stupid.
Like you I am apolitical and only want the best government for our country and the people whatever its colour! We have all the proof we need for the present incumbents, I only hope we can get a real government next time.
Sorry if I misunderstood you, we are not that far apart anyway really I think.
Les
13 March 2008, 02:46 PM
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Amazingly, the Tories didn't actually say where they would find the money from ................... cutting hospital funding, no doubt?
We have enjoyed the best 10 years of Britains history - a small hiccup is upon us, but Labour are the best option to steer us through it.
IMO after suffering under many different Governments over the years!
We have enjoyed the best 10 years of Britains history - a small hiccup is upon us, but Labour are the best option to steer us through it.
IMO after suffering under many different Governments over the years!
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Your extreme bias is showing just how little you really understand about that time and also that the Conservatives left the economy in its strongest position for many years, and your hero has spent the last ten years pissing it against the wall as well has his huge overborrowing to make things look good on the surface. Now that the world economy is sinking, he has saved nothing for the time when we really need it and he has even flogged off half of our national gold reserves at the lowest possible price!
Whats new of course with this lot of creeps in power!
Les
Whats new of course with this lot of creeps in power!
Les
As much as I enjoy some of the debates we have, you really need to take the blinkers off as well. To claim the Tory 'left a strong ecconomy' like that was some sort well planned triumph is (as you must know) is silly.
The strong economy was born out of the rubble of the complete collapse of their whole economic policy on Black Wednesday'. After that the only way was up, interest rates more than halved, exports started growing, and job were created. If the Tory's had stuck to their guns we would have been in even deeper poo!
So you were being a bit disingenuous me thinks
13 March 2008, 02:58 PM
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Amazingly, the Tories didn't actually say where they would find the money from ................... cutting hospital funding, no doubt?
We have enjoyed the best 10 years of Britains history - a small hiccup is upon us, but Labour are the best option to steer us through it.
IMO after suffering under many different Governments over the years!
We have enjoyed the best 10 years of Britains history - a small hiccup is upon us, but Labour are the best option to steer us through it.
IMO after suffering under many different Governments over the years!
Plus, let's be honest, the economic climate HAS been stable over the last 10 years. People all moan about prices going up, but just look at the price of crude oil these days. The country is run on the stuff and somewhere along the line, it has to be paid for.
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