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Old 27 February 2008, 01:00 PM
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Motor Authority » Report: McLaren F1 CEO Ron Dennis fired

Seems a strange thing to print if it's false...
Old 27 February 2008, 01:03 PM
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indeed it does seem strange. Nothing on the other news feeds about it.... yet.
Old 27 February 2008, 01:12 PM
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Wonder if the Spanish are stirring things up!

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Old 27 February 2008, 01:37 PM
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Nothing on skysports news website either?
Old 27 February 2008, 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Leslie
Wonder if the Spanish are stirring things up!

Les
Yeah I would say say - He owns 15% of the McLaren group - not just the race team and Mansour Ojjeh has been involved since 1983.
Old 27 February 2008, 01:54 PM
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I thought he was planning to jump but not to be pushed.
Old 27 February 2008, 01:55 PM
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Financial ownership does not mean you cant be fired though

Kinda hope its not true.
Old 27 February 2008, 01:55 PM
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PistonHeads Headlines

Ron Denis not fired!
Old 27 February 2008, 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by bugeyeandy
PistonHeads Headlines

Ron Denis not fired!
Nice find, puts that one to bed.

Now Alonso lovers..... **** off! lol
Old 27 February 2008, 02:07 PM
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Who is Alonso.....

Hamilton / Mclaren will take the season without doubt....
Old 27 February 2008, 02:47 PM
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Exactly, who is Alonso ? There are not many that I hope and pray to have a really bad season but that plonker is top of my wish list, can't stand the cocky little git.
Old 27 February 2008, 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by pnbond007
Who is Alonso.....

Hamilton / Mclaren will take the season without doubt....
Actually theres a fair amount of doubt. Ferrari consistent and able to put in lap after lap and top testing time sheets. TC removed so crashes more likely.
Old 27 February 2008, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by naughtyhunnybunny
Exactly, who is Alonso ?

A very good driver with a typical Spanish personality. Can be as cool as you like but once he goes its all guns blazing irrespective of who is in the firing line.
Old 27 February 2008, 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Leslie
Wonder if the Spanish are stirring things up!

Les

Originally Posted by Motor Authority
Ron Dennis has forcibly relinquished his role as team principal of McLaren, and will be replaced by deputy Martin Whitmarsh, a Spanish newspaper claims.


You think ????
Old 27 February 2008, 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by EddScott
Actually theres a fair amount of doubt. Ferrari consistent and able to put in lap after lap and top testing time sheets. TC removed so crashes more likely.

Yes your right, however Hamilton is sure to be a master, he dominated in Karting and almost every formula he has driven in. He is young & has not had the experience that most have had in F1.

I think his transition to this years reg's will be outstanding.

Lewis is going to be another Ayrton Senna a pure master of his sport, plus he'll also follow Michael's lead.. if he would keep his arrogance in check, if he does it will assure his popularity...and many win's to come....

Fernando Alonso last season, totally undone his outstanding efforts in previous years...silly boy
Old 28 February 2008, 06:31 AM
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Agreed.

Hamiltons arrogance level is a concern. He's like the kid at school who is surprised they got an A when everybody else would stake a years dinner money the kid would be top of the class.

Alonso choked and the way he treat Ron Dennis was nothing short of shocking. He is good at what he does though.
Old 28 February 2008, 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by EddScott
Actually theres a fair amount of doubt. Ferrari consistent and able to put in lap after lap and top testing time sheets. TC removed so crashes more likely.
Testing, as always, totally irrelevant. Only thing that shows is qualfying and the first race - the latter for reliability as much as anything.

No-one knows until the first race, as has always been proven.
Old 28 February 2008, 11:29 AM
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I've heard this before about testing but its a good indication of what is to follow IMO.

I am not prepared to believe that Honda are at the lower end of test times through choice. Yet another year, yet another brick with wheels.
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Originally Posted by EddScott
Agreed.

Hamiltons arrogance level is a concern. He's like the kid at school who is surprised they got an A when everybody else would stake a years dinner money the kid would be top of the class.

Alonso choked and the way he treat Ron Dennis was nothing short of shocking. He is good at what he does though.
Can't understand what you mean by Hamilton's arrogance level. Can you explain where he has shown any arrogance? Most people I talk to reckon he is particularly level headed and I agree with that. How on earth does his and his dad's amazement at his own outstanding success so far make him in any way arrogant? More the opposite I would have thought.

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Yes that is exactly why I made that post of course.

Les
Old 28 February 2008, 01:13 PM
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All F1 drivers and indeed most reasonable race drivers have a heightened level of arrogance. He made his own cocky comments last year about back markers so it was poking through then.

I just agree with pnbond007 that if he keeps it in check he will win many more people over.

It was his comments and mannerism towards the end of last year that showed his arrogance potential and not their "amazement" at his obvious ability.

Don't get me wrong I really like him but then I really like Schumacher. I love the little clip the BBC show of him as a lad racing the Kyosho Infernos in the Blue Peter back garden. I can't manage that level of concentration at 30 and I race the things every weekend
Old 28 February 2008, 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by pnbond007
Who is Alonso.....

Hamilton / Mclaren will take the season without doubt....
Errrr, Kimi / Ferrari might have something to say about that.

McLaren could get side tracked now the Police are in their offices investigating the whole spy gate saga.

McLaren has had one good season in the last 5 years. No guarantee that the 2008 car will be good. Ferrari are consistent in producing fast cars. Now that Kimi has won the World Championship his confidence will be sky high. He's now comfortable inside Ferrari. In my mind Kimi is going to win this season pretty easily.

Have to admit, I'm not that much of a Hamilton fan. My alliance is with Jenson.
Old 28 February 2008, 02:36 PM
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Its strange that you should say that about heightened levels of arrogance. Most of the ones I have met were quite different and the only complaints I have heard about back markers have been perfectly reasonable when they don't look in their mirrors and get in the faster cars' way. I have found that often enough myself and it is not arrogant to mention it in my book.

I suspect that you are being tempted to run him down a bit because of his brilliant potential and his undoubted success.. This seems to be a British "disease" and I think it is unnecessary and a bit of a shame really. He comes across to me as a pleasant sort of a bloke with a wonderfully supportive family and that he has been very well brought up. Certainly don't see any particular cause for criticism so far anyway. A polite manner should not be mistaken for something different just for the sake of it IMO.

Les
Old 28 February 2008, 03:04 PM
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[QUOTE=stilover;7693382]Errrr, Kimi / Ferrari might have something to say about that.

Kimi won't win the championship again, he only ended Lewis's domination due to him being let down by the Mclaren team.
Old 28 February 2008, 03:18 PM
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Its strange that you should say that about heightened levels of arrogance. Most of the ones I have met were quite different and the only complaints I have heard about back markers have been perfectly reasonable when they don't look in their mirrors and get in the faster cars' way. I have found that often enough myself and it is not arrogant to mention it in my book.

I suspect that you are being tempted to run him down a bit because of his brilliant potential and his undoubted success.. This seems to be a British "disease" and I think it is unnecessary and a bit of a shame really. He comes across to me as a pleasant sort of a bloke with a wonderfully supportive family and that he has been very well brought up. Certainly don't see any particular cause for criticism so far anyway. A polite manner should not be mistaken for something different just for the sake of it IMO.

Les
Very difficult to know a person just by what you see of them on the tv. Who cares if he's "nice" or not. He's a Brit done good and thats all he needs to gain my support.
Ain't that right Pete.....er I mean Les
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Originally Posted by Leslie
I suspect that you are being tempted to run him down a bit because of his brilliant potential and his undoubted success..
Suspect all you like it is my opinion based on my own thought processes and not clouded by media hype. Whether you choose to accept it is not my concern.

So there!
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Originally Posted by bugeyeandy
Very difficult to know a person just by what you see of them on the tv. Who cares if he's "nice" or not. He's a Brit done good and thats all he needs to gain my support.
Ain't that right Pete.....er I mean Les
I am not used to such inferred praise! I must PM PSL to make sure he reads this one!

Les
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Originally Posted by EddScott
Suspect all you like it is my opinion based on my own thought processes and not clouded by media hype. Whether you choose to accept it is not my concern.

So there!
Of course we are all entitled to our opinions and to disagree with others' too. That is why we are here!

So "Yah Boo Sucks" to you too

Never mind-the season will soon be upon us thank goodness.

Les
Old 29 February 2008, 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Leslie

Never mind-the season will soon be upon us thank goodness.

Les
Oh yes, no better way to spend a Sunday than sitting down with a can, get all excited at the start and waking up just as they're on the podium.

I do it so many times.
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Originally Posted by michaelro
Motor Authority » Report: McLaren F1 CEO Ron Dennis fired

Seems a strange thing to print if it's false...
I will be surprised if he lasts until the end of the week. Whether he goes or is pushed, it won't be his decision.
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Originally Posted by EddScott
Oh yes, no better way to spend a Sunday than sitting down with a can, get all excited at the start and waking up just as they're on the podium.

I do it so many times.
lol, describes my watching schedule perfectly


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