View Poll Results: Would you report them for benefit fraud?
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Would you stick a 'friend' in who is committing benefit fraud?
19 February 2008, 11:08 AM
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Would you stick a 'friend' in who is committing benefit fraud?
Would you stick in a friend that is on the fiddle?
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19 February 2008, 11:13 AM
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For us that work hard to pay for what we have there is no excuse, It really gives us the motivation to work, why don't we all just do the same, I'm sure we would have more cash to play with each month. You know whats right and you would not be wrong in doing so.
19 February 2008, 11:17 AM
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Same reason a mate of mine has just bought a brand new Clio R27 thingy at £17K.
Lives with a girl who gets the same as above plus he rents his place at £400 per month.
There are loads of people doing it. Takes the royal pee thats for sure.
Sadly the more you have the higher the risk of it being taken away. The less you have who gives a stuff, the government and the idiots that work will pay for it.
I'd shoot them twice just to make sure!
Lives with a girl who gets the same as above plus he rents his place at £400 per month.
There are loads of people doing it. Takes the royal pee thats for sure.
Sadly the more you have the higher the risk of it being taken away. The less you have who gives a stuff, the government and the idiots that work will pay for it.
I'd shoot them twice just to make sure!
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19 February 2008, 11:23 AM
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There's no such thing as 'paid for by the Government'. It's all paid for by the people - you and me.
There's no excuse whatsoever, that money could be paying for a nurse, or a teacher - not foreign holidays and a f**king M3.
There's no excuse whatsoever, that money could be paying for a nurse, or a teacher - not foreign holidays and a f**king M3.
19 February 2008, 11:31 AM
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To what end do you want to grass them up? What are you hoping to get out of it?
I mean I can understand the anger towards this sort of things, but given the list of things you come up with, it just sound slike plain old jealousy and a feeling of "I have to struggle, why shouldn't they?" attitude, rather than any sort of public responsibility.
In other words, If you are going to do it, do it for the right reasons.
Also, its a mate apparantly, so at the very least, you owe your mate a warning that you are considering doing it, rather than being a complete arsehole and doing it behind said mates back.
I mean I can understand the anger towards this sort of things, but given the list of things you come up with, it just sound slike plain old jealousy and a feeling of "I have to struggle, why shouldn't they?" attitude, rather than any sort of public responsibility.
In other words, If you are going to do it, do it for the right reasons.
Also, its a mate apparantly, so at the very least, you owe your mate a warning that you are considering doing it, rather than being a complete arsehole and doing it behind said mates back.
19 February 2008, 11:36 AM
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To what end do you want to grass them up? What are you hoping to get out of it?
I mean I can understand the anger towards this sort of things, but given the list of things you come up with, it just sound slike plain old jealousy and a feeling of "I have to struggle, why shouldn't they?" attitude, rather than any sort of public responsibility.
In other words, If you are going to do it, do it for the right reasons.
Also, its a mate apparantly, so at the very least, you owe your mate a warning that you are considering doing it, rather than being a complete arsehole and doing it behind said mates back.
I mean I can understand the anger towards this sort of things, but given the list of things you come up with, it just sound slike plain old jealousy and a feeling of "I have to struggle, why shouldn't they?" attitude, rather than any sort of public responsibility.
In other words, If you are going to do it, do it for the right reasons.
Also, its a mate apparantly, so at the very least, you owe your mate a warning that you are considering doing it, rather than being a complete arsehole and doing it behind said mates back.
19 February 2008, 11:38 AM
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Shop them, they know they are cheating the system so they can hardly complain when they are caught. Indeed, if he brags about it down the pub then he really ought to expect to be caught.
19 February 2008, 11:39 AM
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Sounds like sour grapes to me.
19 February 2008, 11:39 AM
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My mate is doing the same, living full time with his misses but claiming she only lives there with 2 kids. Felt like grassing them in before but what good will it do, yeah yeah technically Im paying for the lifestyle, as you and everyone else is but grassing him isnt going to help me in any way. The council will still put their rates up in another years time again. Taxes will still rise yadda yadda so rather than ruining a friends lifestyle I'll just live the peaceful life and get on with it.
19 February 2008, 11:41 AM
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The original poster listed how they have nice care and holidays, whereas he can only afford one holiday and a modest car (although obviously he has an asset in his property) - I.e. he is making a comparison directly between his situation and thiers.
Sounds like sour grapes to me.
Sounds like sour grapes to me.
19 February 2008, 11:42 AM
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With increases to all these benefits come April 2008. Extra amounts in brackets)
Increase in child benefit (£1.15pw or £60 pa)
Increase in CTC (£480)
Increase in DLA (£2.40pw or £125 pa)
Increase in IS (£1.35pw or £70)
An extra £735 come april time pushing her ''salary'' beyond £28000 per year
I can now see the reason as to why not sticking in at school and being a young single mum is so appealing
Better than a £6 an hour desk job, that's for sure
Increase in child benefit (£1.15pw or £60 pa)
Increase in CTC (£480)
Increase in DLA (£2.40pw or £125 pa)
Increase in IS (£1.35pw or £70)
An extra £735 come april time pushing her ''salary'' beyond £28000 per year
I can now see the reason as to why not sticking in at school and being a young single mum is so appealing
Better than a £6 an hour desk job, that's for sure
19 February 2008, 11:45 AM
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Blimey, I wouldn't want you for a mate.
Why are you considering being such a coward about it?
Go and speak to him and tell him what you are thinking about doing.
19 February 2008, 11:48 AM
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People are too hung up on what other people have/haven't got. Or what they are/aren't doing.
If you don't like the situation you are in, do something to improve it, turning someone elses life in to turmoil isn't going to improve your own.
Like I said, I don't have a problem with people being reported - But do it for the right reasons.
19 February 2008, 11:48 AM
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If you send a letter then it will be considered hate mail and is an offence.
If you are going to shop them then use the online system : https://secure.dwp.gov.uk/benefitfraud/
If you are going to shop them then use the online system : https://secure.dwp.gov.uk/benefitfraud/
19 February 2008, 11:54 AM
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Don't you think though, that in this case, they're absolutely 100% justified?
Why should decent, hard working, tax paying people NOT complain about their comparitive standard of living compared to the people THEY are paying for through no choice of their own?
Why should I NOT feel aggreived that people are able to squander MY money?
Why should decent, hard working, tax paying people NOT complain about their comparitive standard of living compared to the people THEY are paying for through no choice of their own?
Why should I NOT feel aggreived that people are able to squander MY money?
19 February 2008, 11:59 AM
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Anonymous letter giving them a choice. I doubt they'd go to the police with it
The thing is, if i or anyone else sticks them in, there are other consequences in doing so.
Criminal record, paying the thousands that they weren't entitled to back. The children will suffer etc.
I think an anonymous letter is the way to go.
Sour grapes....Yes you're right. I believe you need to work hard in this world to get by. Dont see why you and I and everyone else here should be funding their lifestyle.
Like i said, not sure what im going to do. May just leave it, and hope someone else does it. Have to think about it, that's why i posted this thread.
The thing is, if i or anyone else sticks them in, there are other consequences in doing so.
Criminal record, paying the thousands that they weren't entitled to back. The children will suffer etc.
I think an anonymous letter is the way to go.
Sour grapes....Yes you're right. I believe you need to work hard in this world to get by. Dont see why you and I and everyone else here should be funding their lifestyle.
Like i said, not sure what im going to do. May just leave it, and hope someone else does it. Have to think about it, that's why i posted this thread.
So would you be satisfied, say, with him moving out of the relationship and the house? Or do they have to decalre him living there, or what?
I mean what options would you give them in the letter?
I mean thats assuming you are going to give your mate some options about how you are going to interfere in his life.
19 February 2008, 12:07 PM
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Perhaps an anonymous letter is the way to go? Something along the lines of, if she does not update her circumstances within 14 days, they will be getting stuck in for benefit fraud.
grass the thieving biatch up. after all, thats what she is!!!
19 February 2008, 12:21 PM
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Looking at what's been posted it seems to me the only thing they're doing wrong is that the bloke should really be supporting the woman financially. If the woman lived on her own she'd be entitled to the benefits legally. If they get shopped its likely they'll get out of it by saying that the bloke doesn't live at the address. He'll go off to live at his mum's, take his slippers and his toothbrush from the woman's house, wait till the heats off then go back.
19 February 2008, 12:32 PM
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Because it is his friend?
People are too hung up on what other people have/haven't got. Or what they are/aren't doing.
If you don't like the situation you are in, do something to improve it, turning someone elses life in to turmoil isn't going to improve your own.
Like I said, I don't have a problem with people being reported - But do it for the right reasons.
People are too hung up on what other people have/haven't got. Or what they are/aren't doing.
If you don't like the situation you are in, do something to improve it, turning someone elses life in to turmoil isn't going to improve your own.
Like I said, I don't have a problem with people being reported - But do it for the right reasons.
I would like to be in a situation where I had more money (who wouldn't?), but does that mean I shouldn't shop someone who I know has robbed a post office?
Shop her, she is stealing from people who pay their taxes.
As for what happens to her kids, boyfriend, whatever, she has to take responsibility for her actions, it's no ones fault but hers.
As for the OPs friend, he is knowingly aiding her by allowing to her to live with him whilst fraudulently claiming these benefits, he will be in she **** too.
Scum, the pair of them.
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19 February 2008, 12:43 PM
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One of my salesman had a couple (and their three appallingly behaved children) in the other day who were given finance on an £850 mattress. I was sat next to the desk, getting some figures in, and heard "we'll pay that off with one of the DLA cheques eh, love?" and then, "no, we can't have it delivered Monday, the dog's at the vets" followed by "we'll have a couple of those (£49) pillows, too". Neither worked, net annual income: £29,000. I guess when £1350 flies out of my pay packet at the end of the month, I'll be safe in the knowledge that their vet bill and finance on high-end living products will be comfortably paid off.
An hour or two later, a full-time nurse comes in and speaks to me and selects a mattress priced at £250, as it's "just about within budget". I'm either crap at up-selling or the system's FUBAR.
An hour or two later, a full-time nurse comes in and speaks to me and selects a mattress priced at £250, as it's "just about within budget". I'm either crap at up-selling or the system's FUBAR.
