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Old Jan 16, 2008 | 09:17 AM
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On SN all but disappeared?
Old Jan 16, 2008 | 09:18 AM
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Its not that free speech has disappeared its just that someone who is running the site is under the impression that they can be sued for what is said on here.. Deluded some what!
Old Jan 16, 2008 | 09:23 AM
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Old Jan 16, 2008 | 09:26 AM
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its okay guys, my other alias on here is DCI GENE HUNT
Old Jan 16, 2008 | 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by **************
Now look you know you had your final warning yesterday now stop being a naughty boy and go and stand in the corner for 2 weeks.
OH, NO!!!

Don't make me sit on the 'Naughty Step' ...... Please ...... I only made a lighthearted joke in Policy yesterday

AND, YOU got told off as well because you sniggered at my joke, nah, nah, nee, nah nahhhhhhhhhhhhhh

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Old Jan 16, 2008 | 09:36 AM
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Public forum/freedom of speech of users I think has got less and less since IB took over, maybe they should read the disclaimer, which is at the bottom of each page if they are worried about legal action :-

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Old Jan 16, 2008 | 09:41 AM
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If you find that the facts don't support our Policies ..... please speak up.

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Old Jan 16, 2008 | 09:52 AM
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Very valid Nate
Old Jan 16, 2008 | 10:03 AM
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Well, I thought that was the whole point of a "Disclaimer"

Must also say, the sticky at the top of NSR seems a little Hitleresque !

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Old Jan 16, 2008 | 10:11 AM
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Ja Voll!

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Old Jan 16, 2008 | 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by SwissTony
its okay guys, my other alias on here is DCI GENE HUNT
ergo... I can also pop round to see your, I mean my missus *rubs hands*.....
Old Jan 16, 2008 | 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by DCI Gene Hunt
ergo... I can also pop round to see your, I mean my missus *rubs hands*.....
Are you really rubbing your hands DCI?
Old Jan 16, 2008 | 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by New_scooby_04
Are you really rubbing your hands DCI?
Yes, but I never said on what
Old Jan 16, 2008 | 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by DCI Gene Hunt
ergo... I can also pop round to see your, I mean my missus *rubs hands*.....
Old Jan 16, 2008 | 10:22 AM
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Free speech would have had to have existed in the first place for it to have disappeared.
The webmaster has stated on numerous occasions that scoobynet does not support the concept of free speech. Do a search on it.
Old Jan 16, 2008 | 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Supercue
Is It Me Or Has Free Speech On SN all but disappeared?
Nope, nothing at all changed, say what you want when you want

p.s. if you create an allias or 2 dont make it known who you are, Webby hides your posts to everybody other than yourself so you think youre posting as per normal but nobody can see you
Old Jan 16, 2008 | 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by NACRO
Free speech would have had to have existed in the first place for it to have disappeared.
The webmaster has stated on numerous occasions that scoobynet does not support the concept of free speech. Do a search on it.

Maybe a re-naming is in order ....... Maybe 'communistnet'
Old Jan 16, 2008 | 10:52 AM
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Disclaimers are not always able to be found upon in law, hence the stance taken on legal issues.

Freedom of speach must be taken in the context of personal opinions or points of fact. The pont that you can't libel or defame a pseudonym (with certain reservations where the pseudonym is clearly recognisable as the person) must also be considered.

Hence - "the webmaster is a facist dictator" is, without proof, either libel or defamation (depending upon where in the UK you are based).

whereas, "the webmaster is, in my opinion, exhibiting the traits of a facist dictator" completely acceptable in law and hence ok. Although it might receive an infraction depending upon the individual's sensitivity to the issue.

or, and perhaps more topically,

"Those who issue multiple infractions because they disagree with a point of view are pathetic saddos with no life" would, whilst not necessarily be libel or defamation and hence should be allowable under freedom of speach, probably result in an infraction, perhaps, ironically, for being in many cases factually correct?
Old Jan 16, 2008 | 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Devildog
Disclaimers are not always able to be found upon in law, hence the stance taken on legal issues.

Freedom of speach must be taken in the context of personal opinions or points of fact. The pont that you can't libel or defame a pseudonym (with certain reservations where the pseudonym is clearly recognisable as the person) must also be considered.

Hence - "the webmaster is a facist dictator" is, without proof, either libel or defamation (depending upon where in the UK you are based).

whereas, "the webmaster is, in my opinion, exhibiting the traits of a facist dictator" completely acceptable in law and hence ok. Although it might receive an infraction depending upon the individual's sensitivity to the issue.

or, and perhaps more topically,

"Those who issue multiple infractions because they disagree with a point of view are pathetic saddos with no life" would, whilst not necessarily be libel or defamation and hence should be allowable under freedom of speach, probably result in an infraction, perhaps, ironically, for being in many cases factually correct?
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Old Jan 16, 2008 | 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Devildog
Disclaimers are not always able to be found upon in law, hence the stance taken on legal issues.

Freedom of speach must be taken in the context of personal opinions or points of fact. The pont that you can't libel or defame a pseudonym (with certain reservations where the pseudonym is clearly recognisable as the person) must also be considered.

Hence - "the webmaster is a facist dictator" is, without proof, either libel or defamation (depending upon where in the UK you are based).

whereas, "the webmaster is, in my opinion, exhibiting the traits of a facist dictator" completely acceptable in law and hence ok. Although it might receive an infraction depending upon the individual's sensitivity to the issue.

or, and perhaps more topically,

"Those who issue multiple infractions because they disagree with a point of view are pathetic saddos with no life" would, whilst not necessarily be libel or defamation and hence should be allowable under freedom of speach, probably result in an infraction, perhaps, ironically, for being in many cases factually correct?

I don't see how someone can be infracted for criticising the giver of an infraction since no-one other than the person who issued the infraction (and the webby, if he is asked to investigate) knows who it is from. Therefore, by definition, you can't have insulted another member because no other member has been identified.

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Old Jan 16, 2008 | 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by davegtt
Nope, nothing at all changed, say what you want when you want

p.s. if you create an allias or 2 dont make it known who you are, Webby hides your posts to everybody other than yourself so you think youre posting as per normal but nobody can see you
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Old Jan 16, 2008 | 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by New_scooby_04
I don't see how someone can be infracted for criticising the giver of an infraction since no-one other than the person who issued the infraction (and the webby, if he is asked to investigate) knows who it is from. Therefore, by definition, you can't have insulted another member because no other member has been identified.

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I absolutely agree, but, in my opinion, that doesn't stop certain members issuing infractions for that very reason, who should, according to the rules if i have read them correctly, be banned for abuse of the system.
Old Jan 16, 2008 | 11:14 AM
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Good Morning Gene, nice to be back without the face mask on
Old Jan 16, 2008 | 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by davegtt
Good Morning Gene, nice to be back without the face mask on
Good to see you back fella.... I've been so confused I'd couldn't work out who you were
Old Jan 16, 2008 | 11:26 AM
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Confused myself with which names I was playing about with there was that many, even kept an account active too confuse webby so he didnt follow my trail with mulitpile usernames
Old Jan 16, 2008 | 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Devildog
I absolutely agree, but, in my opinion, that doesn't stop certain members issuing infractions for that very reason, who should, according to the rules if i have read them correctly, be banned for abuse of the system.

Maybe Gene should bring this up with his one-on-one thread with the webby?

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Old Jan 16, 2008 | 11:32 AM
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PS welcome back Dave.

In case you didn't see it

https://www.scoobynet.com/non-scooby...e-you-bud.html


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Old Jan 16, 2008 | 11:35 AM
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Welcome back Dave, seems like the "Free the gtt one" campaign was successful
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