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Old Jan 15, 2008 | 01:42 PM
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Unhappy Bank charges - charged £35 for being £1 over

It's madness.

How does it cost the bank £35 in admin charges? Have had it happen twice now in a month.

Is the test case still at court re bank charges?

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Old Jan 15, 2008 | 01:53 PM
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think the case started yesterday.

The bank probably use special organically grown paper, with a handwriting expert who is brilliant at doing an Arial font (size 12). Stamps arent cheap either you know

Its a kin joke isnt it, I changed bank accounts last month and did the changeover forms etc, however I still got hit with a £100 charge in total for DD's that were refused. think it was £35 per dd that was refused, and then a further £15 per letter that was sent!
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Old Jan 15, 2008 | 02:13 PM
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waits for the SN massive who say you should look after your account better and manage your finances so you dont go over drawn

My bank have put all their charges up, but renamed them all, so you can no longer even try and claim them back
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Old Jan 15, 2008 | 02:16 PM
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You should look after your account better and manage your finances so you don't go overdrawn
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Old Jan 15, 2008 | 02:16 PM
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There has to be some charge for going overdrawn. And I think £10-£15 is probably an acceptable amount.

However, when you get obvious penalising like this, then you can see why the issue is going to court.
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Old Jan 15, 2008 | 02:28 PM
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gfriend has 'lost' thousands she reckons in this way - cant wait to see what happens
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Old Jan 15, 2008 | 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by BOB'5
It's madness.

How does it cost the bank £35 in admin charges? Have had it happen twice now in a month.

Is the test case still at court re bank charges?

Bob
it doest cost them....hence its not legal.....hence the court case.

that aside...look after your money better
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Old Jan 15, 2008 | 03:06 PM
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Old Jan 15, 2008 | 03:06 PM
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you can buy 500 sheets of a4 for about £2, laserjet printer cartridge about £100 tops, however this will do circa 10,000 prints, business post say 30pence, envelope (probably bought in bulk but go for 5p)

So

100/10000 (printer cartridge and max copies) = 0.01p

2.5 sheets of paper = 0.01p

envelope = 5p (very generous I know)

Business post = 30p (again probably a bit generous)

total a very respectable 37p

Factor in a very generous amount of £5 for an hours work for a yts and that comes to £5.37


God I should have been better at managing my accounts
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Old Jan 15, 2008 | 03:20 PM
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Old Jan 15, 2008 | 03:39 PM
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Sorry, but call me a cynic if you will.

Leaving aside whether the charges are fair, legal etc, does anyone else but me expect this to go the same way as the case of Idris Francis vs the UK government went?

That's to say, for some reason NO legal, other than the judge, can determine, it'll go in favour of the banks, ................and just watch the Labour ministers joining those self-same banks once they aren't ministers any more

Oh, and don't forget the "donations/loans" to Labour at the next election. NOT from the banks, of course

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Old Jan 15, 2008 | 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by jaytc2003
you can buy 500 sheets of a4 for about £2, laserjet printer cartridge about £100 tops, however this will do circa 10,000 prints, business post say 30pence, envelope (probably bought in bulk but go for 5p)

So

100/10000 (printer cartridge and max copies) = 0.01p

2.5 sheets of paper = 0.01p

envelope = 5p (very generous I know)

Business post = 30p (again probably a bit generous)

total a very respectable 37p

Factor in a very generous amount of £5 for an hours work for a yts and that comes to £5.37


God I should have been better at managing my accounts
from the banks perspective you have missed the point - if i take £100 off you without your permision and you have to right me a letter asking to have a back do you think you would be happy for me to add a few pence for your stamp and act like nothing happened?
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Old Jan 15, 2008 | 03:44 PM
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The OP got off lightly, because some banks will charge you £35 for processing something that takes you overdrawn, plus £35 for going overdrawn plus £35 for writing to give you the good news. The result being that you end up with £115 in charges for going over bya few pounds.

The other cunning trick is to stop a Direct Debit payment out of your acoount because it would take you over your limit and charge you £35 for the privledge, then the recipient which could of course be the same bank will charge you £35 for not making the payment on time!
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Old Jan 15, 2008 | 03:47 PM
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could be worse, i`m currently getting charged 75quid a quarter for admin bollocks and i`m never over drawn (business account with some cash in it)

some of my admin fees include "paying in" LOL
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Old Jan 15, 2008 | 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by BOB'5
It's madness.

How does it cost the bank £35 in admin charges? Have had it happen twice now in a month.

Is the test case still at court re bank charges?

Bob
1 pound for the admin, 34 pounds for a decent bottle of bubbly for bank's xmas bash
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Old Jan 15, 2008 | 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by New_scooby_04
1 pound for the admin, 34 pounds for a decent bottle of bubbly for bank's xmas bash

he has been "hoiked" in good and proper

stop carping on

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Old Jan 15, 2008 | 05:49 PM
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refund the penalty if you do it once, after that your on your own..
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Old Jan 15, 2008 | 06:00 PM
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Halifax by any chance Those muppets accidently stuck £7k in my account. I contacted them and they said they would sort it. Went to draw some money out a few days later and they had put me £7k in the red I must have racked up about £300 in bank charges before the muppets sorted it out
(funny how it took them 24 hours to remove the money but 3 days to put £7k back)
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Old Jan 15, 2008 | 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Chrisgr31
The OP got off lightly, [b]£35 plus £35 plus £35 The result being £115 in charges
Boy they really do add it on don't they Hope you don't work in a bank
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Old Jan 15, 2008 | 06:34 PM
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Everytime I go beyond my overdraft limit, I walk into the bank and ask for the money to repaid or cancel the charge they want to apply. Upto press it has been repaid without any argument.
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Old Jan 15, 2008 | 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by andy97
Everytime I go beyond my overdraft limit, I walk into the bank and ask for the money to repaid or cancel the charge they want to apply. Upto press it has been repaid without any argument.
you either work next door to a bank or value your time very little!
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Old Jan 15, 2008 | 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Tiggs
you either work next door to a bank or value your time very little!

I havent worked for years rich wife.
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Old Jan 15, 2008 | 08:13 PM
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You went overdrawn and were penalised, applying the terms you signed up to when you opened the account. what are you complaining about ???

I don't understand how people can claim the banks should only charge what it costs them - IT'S A PENALTY to deter people from going overdrawn. It doesn't sound like it's enough IMO.
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Old Jan 15, 2008 | 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Gordo
You went overdrawn and were penalised, applying the terms you signed up to when you opened the account. what are you complaining about ???

I don't understand how people can claim the banks should only charge what it costs them - IT'S A PENALTY to deter people from going overdrawn. It doesn't sound like it's enough IMO.
are you havin a larf - how do you imagine banks make money..!
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Old Jan 15, 2008 | 08:30 PM
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They make it from corporate lending and, increasingly, equity investing - high street accounts are a necessary evil for most of them. i.e. they make very little from providing generally free banking services to consumers.
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Old Jan 15, 2008 | 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Gordo
You went overdrawn and were penalised, applying the terms you signed up to when you opened the account. what are you complaining about ???

I don't understand how people can claim the banks should only charge what it costs them - IT'S A PENALTY to deter people from going overdrawn. It doesn't sound like it's enough IMO.
I don't totally disagree with some sort of charge for going overdrawn, however, maybe the crime should fit the punishment. He only went £1 over. Yes, that is still overdrawn, but it seems a little harsh to charge someone £35 for being all of £1 over.
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Old Jan 15, 2008 | 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Tiggs
from the banks perspective you have missed the point - if i take £100 off you without your permision and you have to right me a letter asking to have a back do you think you would be happy for me to add a few pence for your stamp and act like nothing happened?

lost me on this, I havent taken £100 from the bank
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Old Jan 15, 2008 | 09:22 PM
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I went just over £1 overdrawn recently - a cheque I had made out at the start of Nov wasn't drawn on till nearly Christmas - and tbh I had forgotten about it.

I noticed and transferred some money to cover it - I had a payment of £400 going in the next day any way, but thought I should just cover myself.

So for being £1.09 IIRC overdrawn for less than 3 hours, Barclays Bank charged me £25.

I phoned up and gave them some grief - and they rebated my charges immediately.

I can understand these charges if someone is either a) going overdrawn on a regular basis and/or b) is overdrawn by a large amount ..

but £25 for a squid? the original offending cheque was less than £25 for gawds sake!
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It's why I don't use direct debit....its fine when amounts and billing periods don't change and the the money paid in via my income/automated transfers keeps things topped up.

But in the short space of time (not including postage time) of mandatory notice a company has to give before messing about with a DD payment and do it anyway before you have chance to rearrange the cashflow, your overdrawn and fined. Often being overdrawn by insignificant amounts purely due to the upset timings in the cashflow in and out of the account.

It's happened to me too many times whilst I was out the country and almost powerless to do anything about it.
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Old Jan 15, 2008 | 10:24 PM
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Its a bank not a charity!

Thanks to all of these people claiming back their charges I am now probably going to have to pay for my banking and I've never been over drawn in my LIFE!..

Cheers!

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