All Torque

Caught the last few minutes of this last night. Could/Would you be able to do this yourself, last night it was young pigs tonight it is Kids the goat type Sky 115 at 10.30 and its live with a studio ordience.

MattW

Repeats. Good series, although they seem to have a few with a poor stomach for these things in the audience.

Shark Man

I think everyone should see how their food is killed, gutted, prepared and cooked.

It makes one much more appreciative of the food they eat....and I'm no veggie: being an avid meat fan...the bloodier the better

One not to miss tonight: Hugh's Chicken Run 9pm tonigh on ch4


Looking forward to Jamie Oliver's Fowl dinners.

Richiehash

Yup no problem shot rabbit, prepped and bbqed. charcoal of course lol
stunning no different to chicken really
richie

The Trooper 1815

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This is the New Series. Smaller animals this time, pigs, goats and lambs. Concience pricking time.

Reality check on the "KFC" Kids, some need to grow up and realise that it's whats hiding in a kebab, schnitzel or hot pot!!! Easy to eat at 2am when your p****d but not to watch how it gets there.

Good comparison between the other EU countries and the UK, the spaniard seem quite put out when no-one agrred with him.

Good TV.

Diesel

Saw a bit last night - I was never in denial about where meat comes from (and I dont mean in cling film from Tesco) but those piles of twitching throat slashed baby 3 week old pigs was a bit barbaric.

It is an odd question though - is there a massive difference between killing them at 3 weeks or 30 weeks? Yes the meat goes further if they are allowed time to grow (so ultimately you have to kill fewer pigs I guess) but if they are intensively, unnaturally and miserably raised pigs (aka Danishhhhh) are they not better off dead anyway?

Personally Veal, suckling pig etc is off my menu as is anything that hasnt had a natural life and trodden on grass. I feel it's the least I should do to ensure that it is food that has been reared compassionately, and that I can eat it with a clear conscience (and of course it tastes better).

Carnivores given compassion - thanks for that Big Guy...

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The Dogs B******s

Watched the whole programme,i thought it was interesting more than it was shocking.Will try to watch it again tonight

davegtt

Watched it too, didnt find disturbing at all, seemed perfectly normal and exactly what I expected from it all tbh.

hux309

Were they stunned first?

Shouldn't have felt anything if they were let along be conscious.

I work in a boning hall, so no point in my answering really.

davegtt

Course they were stunned. Nothing wrong with how it was done, just looked disturbing with the titching thats all

Simon C

Easy, I regularly shoot rabbits, pigeons and deer.

Jamie

Bambi and thumper will not be happy

All Torque

I dont think the one I saw later on in the show was stunned, all I saw was his head held back and a long blade cut its throught and rammed down.

Mrs just said he was stunned sorry.

Simon C

bambi as a kid made me cry my little eyes out!!!


I didn't watch the prog, but am under no illusions as to what they showed. However I agree with a previous post, I perfer the meat I do eat to have had a natual life. Hence why the meat I buy comes from the local farm shop (where animals are free range up to a point) rather than tesco's.

Diesel

Yeah mate they were stunned. Just seemed a bit disrespectful (not quite the right word) to just then chuck them all up in a massive container many baby pigs deep, all twitching and bleeding. If the stun on one of them wore off in this pile would have been horrendous for it.

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Jamo

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its on now on bbc3, quite interesting, it all seems very humane to me??

Diesel

As humane as it gets I guess - I'll never get over that vid I saw of a slaughterhouse in the middle east mind.

Humans are bizarre - crying one minute and tucking in the next!

Dunno what they will gain with tomorrow's prog. Subject is done to, err, death now (esp with the rather un-opinionated audience they choose).

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Jamo

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Was that the one where they were stabbing the cows in the eyes and cutting their ligaments on their legs as they wer walking? it was very sick..

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Prasius

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I'm actually quite relieved at the general tone of this thread - I caught the end of the show last night as I was at a Scoobycity meet, but the fact that these people wouldn't eat the meat after they had seen it slaughtered really annoyed me. How did these idiots think they got their Sunday roast? Presumably they are the same type of person who thinks Egg's grow on trees or something.

Re: The middle eastern thing - if people want to see a disturbing slaughter, then go to a Halal slaughterhouse, where the stunning of an animal is still contentious even in the UK.

The Trooper 1815

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The twitching baby pigs at three weeks were in Spain. The practice is not allowed here or the head spiking that they went through!

Puff The Magic Wagon!

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Anyone see Hugh Fearnley-Whitenstal and his Chicken Run? A much more disturbing viewing I thought. I for one will be happier to buy free-range in the future.

Didn't think they'd show HFW necking chickens though lol

The Trooper 1815

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See previous reply.

Diesel

Yes mate and slashing their genitals as they died.

I was shopping this morning and they had a great offer on Brazilian steaks. After seeing the programme I chose the more expensive Welsh beef as it is likely to have been treated more humanely and with higher standards of sign off & safety for the consumer.. If nothing else I think I got that from the programme.

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Diesel

What practice mate? Is head spiking the shock machine?

They never explained that captive bolt thing on the programme either - must have been pretty powerfull as blood immediately came out of the kid goats nose.

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Prasius

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Plus it will be fresher, taste better, will have a lower carbon footprint due to far less transportation and contributes in providing less encouragement to the Brazilians to cut down even more rain forest to provide grazing for cattle.

There is no good reason at all to buy foreign meat produce; there are more than enough good local butchers providing far higher quality, locally procured meat at very marginal (if any) price difference.

davegtt

BBQ pork deli from McDonalds sat on my desk as we speak. Thanks little piggy, dont care how you kopped it aslong as you taste nice

kingofturds

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Argentine animal welfare is disgusting as well.

Holy Ghost

great programming. shame it's on BBC3 where naff all people will see it. thought food critic richard johnson was a far more engaging and knowledgeable host in series one than the current camera-friendly fluffy brunette.

hux309

Well in most places over here id like to think they are treated with a modicum of respect afterall it can't be easy.

They are placed into a pen with 2 inches or so of water to make sure the current passes right through the whole animal, then once stunned a gun with a bolt is fired and usually ends up killing them, it's about as humane as it's going to get within that kind of business enviroment of course.

As prasius said where do people think meat comes from, there are some very disillusioned souls out there.

kingofturds

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Do you work in bodmin by any chance