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Old 08 January 2008, 12:51 PM
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For their sake, I really hope that the front plate is not readable from the outside shot

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Old 08 January 2008, 01:01 PM
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pmsl, the quality of youtube aint brill so if there nothing that goves it away then the guy, assuming its a guy, aint gonna be caught, waste of tax payers money them even looking into it
Old 08 January 2008, 01:09 PM
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One thing I will say is by the looks of it, at top end the speedo is all over the place. Seems to climb steady to 130+ then goes 140 150 160 140 170 160 180.........

Is that meant to be due to "wheel spin"
Old 08 January 2008, 01:10 PM
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what a prat.
Old 08 January 2008, 01:16 PM
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Probably a policeman 'testing' the capabilities of the bike ....
Old 08 January 2008, 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by MJW
Probably a policeman 'testing' the capabilities of the bike ....

Their new Bugatti pursuit bike
Old 08 January 2008, 01:21 PM
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waste of tax payers money them even looking into it
Will be a waste of tax payers money when he runs out of talent and the taxpayers pay half a million quid to scrape him off the road and investigate his "accident".

Got nothing against a bit of spirited driving or riding but that was just pointless

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Old 08 January 2008, 01:21 PM
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A bit silly i'll admit - car pulls out and its game over at that speed but carriageway was almost clear when he opened it out.

Police are not interested in catching people the old fashioned way anymore, instead of sitting behind cameras and at the station eating tea and biscuits whilst trawling the internet trying to track somebody down get out there and nick them. at least they cant moan when they've been caught fair and square.

Besides i doubt he was going that fast - his speedo was obviously attached to his rear wheel so when it spun it showed a false reading.
Old 08 January 2008, 01:21 PM
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lots of people are questioning the speed, but its certainly quick.

I think the above poster has it right, its most probably a copper out testing his vehicle
Old 08 January 2008, 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Luminous
lots of people are questioning the speed, but its certainly quick.

I think the above poster has it right, its most probably a copper out testing his vehicle
Definatly VERY quick. Not doubting that at all.
Just shocked that a bike is producing enough torque at the end of the rev range to break traction at nearly 190mph. Very little wobble for such a high speed wheel spin.
Though it might have hit the limiter and confused the hell out of the speedo. Mates car used to do that. On the limiter in 5th the speedo would try then go to something daft like 24mph.

Clever......... not really.
Old 08 January 2008, 01:27 PM
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I don't know much about bikes, but the power output seemed to really spike in the last few thousand rpm. Maybe its had some sort of monster tunning.

There was so mad fool on the continent that strapped a massive turbo onto his bike. The chase bike was doing way over 150 and was totally left for dust.
Old 08 January 2008, 01:28 PM
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Modern superbikes are absolutely ridiculously fast nowadays - many many years ago i had a a middle weight bike that did 130 tops and that was fast enough, tbh when i was a wee snip of a lad i was a bit of a t*t on a bike.

god knows if i were a kid again and jumped aboard something like that - i wouldn't last two minutes
Old 08 January 2008, 01:30 PM
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Actually I think I just hatched a cruel and cunning plan. A plan so cunning that it graduated from Cunning University. Just image if you did not like someone, and you just happened to hire a bike "a bit like theirs". It would be a shame if you just happened to have a plate made that was also "a bit like theirs".

Thats the problem with all this video "evidence". Its meaningless as you really don't have a clue who was actually in charge of the machine. Well, not unless you get a close up of their face at the time.

Its only a matter of time before some poor sod feels the whole weight of ineptitude of this administration falling right on top of them. Only it won't really be them who actually did anything wrong
Old 08 January 2008, 01:38 PM
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I used to have a ZX12R and it would not try to spin the back wheel at those speeds. I think it said 189 because the clutch was being slipped or if the wheel was spinning then the bike was doing nearer 165-ish.

I tried it on a runway by the way.

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Old 08 January 2008, 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Leslie
I used to have a ZX12R and it would not try to spin the back wheel at those speeds. I think it said 189 because the clutch was being slipped or if the wheel was spinning then the bike was doing nearer 165-ish.

I tried it on a runway by the way.

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I don't really see how the clutch spinning is going to increase the measured speed. The engine rpm would flair, but I don't see how that would correlate to a higher indicated speed.
Old 08 January 2008, 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Luminous
I don't really see how the clutch spinning is going to increase the measured speed. The engine rpm would flair, but I don't see how that would correlate to a higher indicated speed.
Yes you are quite right of course-had a mental failure there.

The 10r must be very advanced on my old 12r then. I'd like to try one anyway

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Old 08 January 2008, 02:21 PM
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The bike in question has 450bhp and lengthened swingarm
Old 08 January 2008, 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by RB5SCOTT
The bike in question has 450bhp and lengthened swingarm
thats a lot for a car, let alone a bike
Old 08 January 2008, 02:51 PM
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Id say he did about 160 or there about and wheelspin did the rest.
Old 08 January 2008, 02:59 PM
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That's filmed at on the dual carriageway (A417 Brockworth Bypass) between the bottom of Birdlip Hill and the M5 near Gloucester, I recognise the roundabouts.

birdlip hill - Google Maps

Sounds like he has a mahoosive turbo on that bike, I guess that's why he's short shifting up through the lower gears.

Nice, hope he doesn't get caught or he'll be in trouble.

Edit: Oh, looking at the other videos it looks like a big turbo and a lengthened (Spondon?) swingarm.

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Old 08 January 2008, 03:35 PM
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Mental spec for a bike I have to say. Would not wanna sit on top of that sort of power lol.
Old 08 January 2008, 03:50 PM
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Well I know the 10r is geared for 104 mph in first!!! Insane I know.....

I remember when MCN first tested it they were amazed by the gearing
Old 08 January 2008, 03:52 PM
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Yup - Brockworth bypass at the bottom of Birdlip, along the A417 to Zoons Court rbout and then back up to the A46 rbout. It'd be easy to clock the distance between the points shown continuously on the video (if someone local were sad enough!!!) and measure the time it takes him to get between them to work out an average speed.

Anyway, not surprising that something that looks like this can do that...

YouTube - 450bhp zx10r

...but should be kept for the strip, where it was obviously made for.
Old 08 January 2008, 04:06 PM
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What an ****!
Old 08 January 2008, 04:21 PM
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At least it seems he was merely out to try the speed out, rather than being aggressive and pushing along past other users.

He's not the only person to have done these sorts of speeds and got away from it in one piece with a clean licence.

He didn't e.g. overtake a car that was already in the outside lane at 140+..... But that might have been pub talk about mates' mates....

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Old 08 January 2008, 05:11 PM
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pffft, watch the ghostrider upsala run if you wanna really moan about something.

oops, looks like he got caught in the end.

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Old 08 January 2008, 05:14 PM
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go on, rolleyes, I know you want too

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Old 08 January 2008, 05:16 PM
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Bit dodgy doing those speeds on a public highway. The police have 14 days to issue a nip, or track him down for a verbal nip for the speeding offence to even stand a chance of prosecution, let alone the dangerous driving charge.
Old 08 January 2008, 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr.No
Yup - Brockworth bypass at the bottom of Birdlip, along the A417 to Zoons Court rbout and then back up to the A46 rbout. It'd be easy to clock the distance between the points shown continuously on the video (if someone local were sad enough!!!) and measure the time it takes him to get between them to work out an average speed.

Anyway, not surprising that something that looks like this can do that...

YouTube - 450bhp zx10r

...but should be kept for the strip, where it was obviously made for.
OK, quoting my own post (dunno which is the sadder, quoting my own post or doing what it said!)...

I've used Google maps (OK, not the most accurate - but it'll do) to determine the distance from the Zoons Court roundabout - where it enters the dual carriageway, past the sign - to the 2nd bridge of the J11a roundabout (Valiant Way, etc. - which is the last discernible point that you see the bike go through in continuous video). This distance is just 0.8miles (if I move the end marker back a hundred yards or so it tells me it's 0.7 miles, so it's pretty much spot on 0.8 miles).

So - he covers 0.8 miles in - and I've timed it - 29.05s or there abouts.

Which equates to an overall average speed of 99.3mph.


Now... doing it once again, but this time just using the "quick" section...

I measured the distance from the first bridge he goes under (11a exit to 417 south) to the 2nd bridge of the J11a roundabout (Valiant Way, etc.) again. This time, using the 'moving the start point one way and then the other' technique the bridge is about half way between two tenth mile changes... so distance is estimated at 0.45 miles.

So - he covers the quick part of 0.45 miles in - obviously timed again - 9.8s

Which equates to an average 'quick' speed over that half mile of 165.3 mph

Bloody madness....
Old 08 January 2008, 07:05 PM
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Reminds me of the hayabusa vid which was popping wheelies at well above 100mph:

Turned out the reluctor wheel that works the speedo has a few too many teeth, thus it over-read "a tad"


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