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Old 14 November 2007, 01:31 PM
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Only available with O2 in the UK.

But, in France legislation does not allow telephone manufacturers/companies to lock out other networks. So, on the 29th November the iPhone is on sale in France with no network lock in's. Buy one and stick your chip in it.

Oh and they are cheaper there too!
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i thought they couldn't lock you in for more than 3 months?
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I mean locked in on purchase to a specific network, only o2 have the iPhone. In France they will be free of any network, so just stick in your own card and way hey!
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Why not move to France then

I am sure they will welcome you with open arms
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Forget the iPhone - Get yourself an iPod touch, which is a far nicer bit of kit, and a decent phone.

iPhone as a convergence device just doesn't have it.
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Originally Posted by Blue Dragoon
Only available with O2 in the UK.

But, in France legislation does not allow telephone manufacturers/companies to lock out other networks. So, on the 29th November the iPhone is on sale in France with no network lock in's. Buy one and stick your chip in it.

Oh and they are cheaper there too!
A CONTRACT iphone may well be cheaper in France, but have they released pricing for the UNLOCKED iPhone yet???

Something tells me that it'll be a little more than the price of a contract iPhone here, France or anywhere else.

Anyway - nice gimmick, crap phone as far as I've seen.... and yes, I have used one.
Old 14 November 2007, 03:38 PM
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I had a play with one at an O2 shop yesterday and what a stunning device to operate. Simple, intuitive, attractive, awesome. I have never paid for a phone and manage to run a business and my personal calls on under £10 a month PAYG so cannot justify one, but in a year or two when they have upgraded the features and storage, and the demand has slowed I would consider paying for one at a much lower price/tariff.

I'm no phone guru, but do use a lot of the functionality of my old SE P800, sync'ing it with my Mac for calendar, contacts, pics, vids etc. What exactly does 3G get you that I am missing, and can Web 2.0 supersede 3G ?
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Originally Posted by corradoboy
can Web 2.0 supersede 3G ?
I know I'm not very geeky, but does this question make sense?
Old 14 November 2007, 04:03 PM
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iPhone v2 may support 3G, then again, it might not. Really does depend on wether euro iPhone sales suffer due to a lack of 3G. As far as I'm aware 3G isn't much of a big deal over in the US. When it comes to mobile phones North America is far, far behind Europe. PAYG is still a fairly new concept here (well, Canada at least), and seriously discounted phones for a new contract type thing is very rare indeed.

The unlocked phone in France does interest me as it could well provide a nice way for everyone to have an unlocked phone that does not need reactivation and jailbreaking every time a new firmware update is released. If the hackers can get their hands on a locked and unlocked phone, and compare them, they should be able to work out exactly what is done to properly unlock it (as far as I'm aware the current unlock methods worked via buffer overflows and jpeg exploits, both "holes" which have been filled, as it were)
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Originally Posted by Markus
iPhone v2 may support 3G, then again, it might not.
Are you 100% sure about that?
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Have you seen the size of the Iphone though, It's massive. As more people want smaller phone's I can't see such a rush for this one as most phones will match and even better what the Iphone can do. I have an HTC touch and I have an 8gig memory card in mine, mine can do more than the iphone and is a lot smaller
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Originally Posted by corradoboy
does 3G get you that I am missing, and can Web 2.0 supersede 3G ?
Is a Microwave better than a sofa?

Old 14 November 2007, 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by stevebt
I can't see such a rush for this
Originally Posted by Peter Eskine, CeO, O2
"We have hundreds of thousands [of iPhones] more coming into stock over the coming weeks, and demand and interest are huge. We expect to have sold 200,000 iPhones by Christmas."
"In the US, Apple sold 270,000 Iphones in the first 30 hours of availability"

Not much demand then
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but how many went on ebay soon after, its a phone most buy to sell on at a profit. Or a must have gadget


CNET editors' review
The good: The Apple iPhone has a stunning display, a sleek design, and an innovative multitouch user interface. Its Safari browser makes for a superb Web surfing experience, and it offers easy-to-use apps. As an iPod, it shines.

The bad: The Apple iPhone has variable call quality and lacks some basic features found in many cell phones, including stereo Bluetooth support and 3G compatibility. Integrated memory is stingy for an iPod, and you have to sync the iPhone to manage music content.
The bottom line: Despite some important missing features, a slow data network, and call quality that doesn't always deliver, the Apple iPhone sets a new benchmark for an integrated cell phone and MP3 player.

but as a phone it's useless

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