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Old 30 July 2007, 04:00 PM
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Situation:

Friend "G" currently is a well paid director of a company. He currently resides in a two bed flat which he owns leasehold. Value Circa £170k

G's partner L is currently unemployed / cash in hand. She has 3 kids between 16 > 10. All of which reside with her.

L lives in council paid accommodation and is claiming full benefits, and is about to swap / upgrade to a larger council paid house in a better area.

G has talked about renting his flat out and residing with L full time.


This is pissing me off as potentially he will be living with her and we will be paying for their accommodation.


Of course, if he lets the council know about the move and contributes to the cost of houseing, this is a different story. But going from the conversation we had this was not to be the case.


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Old 30 July 2007, 04:07 PM
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If he's your mate - why would you even consider shopping him?
A grass is a grass in my book, but to do it to a mate takes the ****.

It is benefit fraud though, but she would still be claiming anyways and the same amount if he wasn't there.
Old 30 July 2007, 04:18 PM
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Their net income will be circa £700 per month better off from the rental revenue from G's flat.
Old 30 July 2007, 04:19 PM
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Depends on if you want to be mates with people like this, I personally wouldn't.
Old 30 July 2007, 04:21 PM
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I would never grass a good mate up and vise versa, cant believe you would ever think about it, what would you get out of it??????
Old 30 July 2007, 04:25 PM
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Nice bloke. Got many mates have you? My advice, keep your ****ing nose out and mind your own business.
Old 30 July 2007, 05:22 PM
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so he's not taht well paid then if he's off to live in a council house!
Old 30 July 2007, 05:33 PM
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i can see where your coming from as we pay tax for scoundrels like this , but personally i wouldnt grass up my worst enemy never mind a good friend !
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G is on about 45k +/-

so he's not taht well paid then if he's off to live in a council house!
G Owns a flat which he is about to move out of and rent out to a third party. He will then move into L's council house.



What I find annoying is that G (who is on about 1.5x my salary) is going to be living in accommodation which I will be paying for.

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Old 30 July 2007, 06:21 PM
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Do you have proof thouggh that she will still be claiming once he moves in? This may no tbe the case and you *could* have got the wrong end of the stick
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G has said she will still claim - he made a point that the utility bills as his flat will stay in his name.
Old 30 July 2007, 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by aonoscoob
Situation:

Friend "G" currently is a well paid director of a company. He currently resides in a two bed flat which he owns leasehold. Value Circa £170k

G's partner L is currently unemployed / cash in hand. She has 3 kids between 16 > 10. All of which reside with her.

L lives in council paid accommodation and is claiming full benefits, and is about to swap / upgrade to a larger council paid house in a better area.

G has talked about renting his flat out and residing with L full time.


This is pissing me off as potentially he will be living with her and we will be paying for their accommodation.


Of course, if he lets the council know about the move and contributes to the cost of houseing, this is a different story. But going from the conversation we had this was not to be the case.


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Your a great mate you Were you bullied at school perchance ??
Old 30 July 2007, 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by wrx-kris
If he's your mate - why would you even consider shopping him?
A grass is a grass in my book, but to do it to a mate takes the ****.
would you turn a blind eye to any crime a friend commited?
Old 30 July 2007, 06:26 PM
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He should really keep his mouth shut tight about anything like that then!

I know people don't condone or agree with it, but I personally wouldn't grass.

The neighbours will probably soon cottn on and they'l probably end up in cack anyway
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Originally Posted by aonoscoob
G is on about 45k +/-.
Not a lot of money these days.


Originally Posted by aonoscoob
What I find annoying is that G (who is on about 1.5x my salary) is going to be living in accommodation which I will be paying for.
He's a 40% tax payer, your more than likely to be a 23% payer, you do the maths
Old 30 July 2007, 06:30 PM
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shop them, scum of the earth
Old 30 July 2007, 06:35 PM
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Why doesn't she move in with him to his house ?
Old 30 July 2007, 06:52 PM
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Don't get the "grass" type comments really... what if this was an illegal immigrant or jihadist?

Also seems a bit out of step with the usual SN line to condone a bit of benefit fraud. Welfare state abusers don't usually get off so lightly!

If it was me, I'd think less of someone who did that but i'd probably just leave him to it.
Old 30 July 2007, 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Sonic'
Why doesn't she move in with him to his house ?
I'd say for the 'free' living she and her children would lose and the flat rental on top that he would lose.
Old 30 July 2007, 07:02 PM
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Yes I realise that they would lose, but in the long run they would lose a lot more than just a few quid if caught, if he doesn't declare that he is living there full time
Old 30 July 2007, 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Sonic'
Yes I realise that they would lose, but in the long run they would lose a lot more than just a few quid if caught, if he doesn't declare that he is living there full time
Yes, agree. How many don't though.
Old 30 July 2007, 07:07 PM
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Hmm, quite a lot according to my Mum

She works in the Post Office and a lot of them tell her that they have 'other halves' staying with them, but publicly they have seperated/dovorced etc cos that way they are better off financially
Old 30 July 2007, 07:08 PM
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I reckon he likes the idea of having his flat in case it all goes pear shaped.

I'd have thought any non-declaring penalties would fall mostly on the woman with the council flat and kids... and then 'G' will just offski back to his flat.
Old 30 July 2007, 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Sonic'
Hmm, quite a lot according to my Mum

She works in the Post Office and a lot of them tell her that they have 'other halves' staying with them, but publicly they have seperated/dovorced etc cos that way they are better off financially
I can well believe that but don't tell Pete Brant otherwise he'll find figures to say it's only a small amount in the budget available.
Old 30 July 2007, 08:48 PM
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mate i know what your saying....and yes i pi55es me to the max,but thats him and not me......i would'nt be able to look my mate in the face again,besides people like that 9 times out of 10 hang themselfs anyway
Old 30 July 2007, 09:21 PM
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shop em.... why should everyone work there asses off n struggle as it is and then pay for dossers....
Sorry if thats strong but really winds me up
Old 30 July 2007, 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by simonbb1328
shop em.... why should everyone work there asses off n struggle as it is and then pay for dossers....
Sorry if thats strong but really winds me up


You cannot have preferential for some people and not others. Fully agree with the post above.
Old 30 July 2007, 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by simonbb1328
shop em.... why should everyone work there asses off n struggle as it is and then pay for dossers....
Sorry if thats strong but really winds me up
Effin too right!

It'd be a different story if it were happening on the doorsteps of these people who say "some mate you are" Just brings up the question of what scams are they pulling as well!?

The country is a bad enough state as it is with foreigners getting the majority of our hard earned, we don't need the these people sponging too!
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I can't figure out what a hard working bloke with enough aspirations and goals to form his own company - would actually choose to live in a council estate with a doler and its baggage!
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