Paulo P

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I've just got home from work to find a letter from our fleet management people. Inside the envelope there is a letter and a no smoking sticker It states that company vehicles are "workplaces" and that we have to display these "no smoking" signs or risk a fixed penalty of £200

Now I'm not a smoker so the new legislation shouldn't affect me but how ridiculous is it that you can't even smoke in a car or van, it's bad enough that they make me drive a Vectra without making it look even more like a minicab

Rant over.

stilover

Just don't stick it up anywhere. Like you say, it's going to make your car look like a Taxi.

Any smoker that gets in my car, they're told (if they don't know already) that I refuse to have them smoke in my car. Light up in my car, find yourself rolling along the Tarmac.

I live in an Apartment block, and the other day some monkey from the management entered the Entrance lobby and has proceeded to put up `No Smoking` signs up everywhere. Look bl00dy awful.

Tam the bam

I thought it was just company vans ant trucks etc who had to display the sticker, aren't company cars exempt?

MJW

It's the law - you must display the sticker or be fined. I'm having to do it with all our company's vehicles too. And the sticker has to be at least 3" diameter to conform with the regs.

davegtt

Yeah we have the same thing but to be fair its awful being in a car with a smoke, its worse than a smoky pub on a Saturday night IMO. such an enclosed space for it. Also even when Im not in the car (its a pool car) I can tell when someone has been in it, its stinks. PLus after a long journey my hands smell like Ive been holding a cig for ages. the steering wheel is black in sections (its a light grey steering wheel not black leather like most)

Ban it all together Bring on 1st of July at very least anyway

little rick

No - because there is a possibility you may have to give someone a lift through work and therefore it becomes a 'work place'

I wouldn't put the sticker up - I'm a smoker but would never dream of lighting up in someones car who doesn't smoke
I try not to smoke in my own car cos it stinks for ages after and its not nice for anyone who has to travel with me

B9GLY

cancer sticks should be banned or the cost at least trebbled so the tax on petrol can be reduced!

Paulo P

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I just find that this is all getting out of hand now. Soon there'll be no end to what is a public place

Roll on getting rid of my company car

Scoobydid

If you manage or occupy a smoke free vehicle or premesis (i.e. your company car) the fines are as follows.
Failing to display stickers £150 if paid within 15 days or £200 in 29 days the court could award a fine of up to £1000

Failing to prevent smoking in a smokefree place carries a fine of up to £2500

So it sounds like even if I sticker my employees van, and he chooses to light up anyway, I have failed to prevent the "crime" (FFS!) so could incur the fine of £2500

Personally I don't care if they smoke, I used to smoke in company vans, if the person I was with didn't smoke I waited until we stopped.

This nannying just makes it harder & harder to run a company with all this additional bollocks (don't get me started on Health and Safety)

Good here innit

DCI Gene Hunt

Righty then.... listen up.... SN massive

A car or van is only classified as a smoke free area IF there is more than one people inside, if there is just you (on your own) you CAN smoke (see exception below).

What you will find is that nearly ALL companies now operate a no-smoking policy for fleet/company cars... so that even on your own you can't smoke.

Regards DCI

STi wanna Subaru

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Cant smoke in your own private car as well if you're on work time and receive expenses for the running of the car so I've been told. I love it!

DCI Gene Hunt

Why do you need to put a sticker in it? that's policy rather than a legal requirement!

It ONLY becomes smoke free if two or more employees are in it

totalllama

This is rolling back a year or so for us Scots. It made no odds to be honest - people now smoke outside at work which costs the company more and still smoke in company cars and vans with the windows open. Ive yet to see someone pulled over for smoking in a company car.

Reckon the cops up here think its gone too far too!

Tam the bam

It must just be Scotland where company cars are exempt.

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STi wanna Subaru

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Not what our co are saying. They could be making their own rules mind.

DCI Gene Hunt

The law for company cars says that IF two or more people are inside then it is smoke free, if just one person (a smoker) then it is not.....

So why sticker the car if you don't intend to carry more than 1 person... is he gives someone else a lift then 'they' can't smoke...

Trust me its true

StickyMicky

just put all my stickers and signs up around the workplace, to be honest i hate it so i even paid for extra signs

DCI Gene Hunt

I hope they don't say its 'illegal' or make reference to the 'ban' as until 1st July.... as that would be illegal

lozgti

Well,the drinkers are next on the hit list (not in cars obviously well,err I suppose yes to that too,spilling it and all that )

Wonder if those that will be out trying to enforce the smoking ban will later be called in to monitor everyones drinking habits.Clipboards in the pub

And those of you who believe you are total saints.....I am sure the government will move onto banning whatever your secret pleasure is...because we are all stoopid and need to be told what to do like naughty citizens

astraboy

Paul, it doesnt say where you have to put the sticker, so put it on the underside of the glove compartment
astraboy.

Paulo P

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The letter states that the sticker has to be placed in a prominent position

Nimbus

This is almost the exact message I got a few days ago stating that it's the law that these stickers are put in the car.

Not happy at all. I don't smoke, but I don't want the inside of the car defaced by the stickers either..

SteveShort

stick it on the inside of the glovebox, then when they check just open the glovebox

or better still get a 4ftx4ft one and stick it on the roof (patrol car stylee) with a number as well....


just pm me if you need any more helpful suggestions my good fellow

DCI Gene Hunt

Placed ISNT stuck

MJW

I think a no-wanking ban might be a bit difficult to enforce, no matter how many stickers you put up

Luminous

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Prominent position my ****

"Can I see your no smoking sticker please sir?"

"Why yes, of course you can officer"

astraboy

Stick it on the roof then
astraboy.

swampster

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All anyone where I work has done has threatened to opt out the company car scheme, and take the cash instead. My company has now adopted a policy of any company car that might be considered part of or used in a "pool" is no smoking (and stickered), while company cars that are expressly for the use of certain individuals (i.e. senior management) can smoke in their own cars provided there aren't any no smoking passengers in work time.

shooter007

i wonder how much the government projected that they would lose in tax by bringing in this law and taking this a step further are they using the greens as a scape goat (and jumping on the band wagon )to criple us with high car tax etc cynnical b that i am

swampster

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Well if loads of people do give up smoking because of this legislation.. they WILL have to make the shortfall up from somewhere, so all this extra "green" taxation is a good candidate for that.