Iran captures UK troops
23 March 2007, 01:51 PM
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Iran captures UK troops
BBC NEWS | UK | UK sailors captured at gunpoint
That, my dear boys and girls, is motion to war...
Oh eck
That, my dear boys and girls, is motion to war...
Oh eck
23 March 2007, 01:54 PM
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Yep just the excuse the US are looking for, dipstick Bush will be on the phone to Billy boy saying let me get 'em back for you. If the Iranians had any guts they would have taken US soldiers and not UK soldiers and called their bluff. That Iranian nutter is just looking for ways of getting the US to sabre rattle at them and then provoke them some more.
23 March 2007, 02:02 PM
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It's certainly a cheeky move even if they are released within no time...
I think we should send Margaret Beckett over presonally to negotiate their release. I cant think of anything more punishing than looking at her face over a desk for hours on end...
She could eat an apple through a tennis racket...
One things for sure... It's a diplomatic crisis of the highest order...
I think we should send Margaret Beckett over presonally to negotiate their release. I cant think of anything more punishing than looking at her face over a desk for hours on end...
She could eat an apple through a tennis racket...
One things for sure... It's a diplomatic crisis of the highest order...
23 March 2007, 02:16 PM
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It's certainly a cheeky move even if they are released within no time...
I think we should send Margaret Beckett over presonally to negotiate their release. I cant think of anything more punishing than looking at her face over a desk for hours on end...
She could eat an apple through a tennis racket...
One things for sure... It's a diplomatic crisis of the highest order...
I think we should send Margaret Beckett over presonally to negotiate their release. I cant think of anything more punishing than looking at her face over a desk for hours on end...
She could eat an apple through a tennis racket...
One things for sure... It's a diplomatic crisis of the highest order...
If they send Anne Widicombe as well they will probably give up their Nuclear plans. The thought of those two in the same room doesn't bare thinking about
23 March 2007, 02:23 PM
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I guess it's a case of "Give us back our troops or we'll bomb you back to the dark ages"...
Oh.... hang on... D'oh...
Oh.... hang on... D'oh...
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23 March 2007, 03:09 PM
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Hardly the first time is it.
The British shouldn't even be there in the first place.
Amazing how so many people seem to have pre-conceived ideas about Iran and how backwards it is.
Let's wait for the truth to come out rather than the propaganda machines of the UK government and press.
The British shouldn't even be there in the first place.
Amazing how so many people seem to have pre-conceived ideas about Iran and how backwards it is.
Let's wait for the truth to come out rather than the propaganda machines of the UK government and press.
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23 March 2007, 03:15 PM
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In Iraq's waterways? They were doing their job, and these Kno*@ers decide to come and take them hostage?? It's not on, there were not in their territory, and if they were, it was unintentional!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
They are getting too big for their boots!!!!
They are getting too big for their boots!!!!
23 March 2007, 03:19 PM
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If it was unintentional then Iran has every right to detain them. And many news reports are saying they were on the boundary of Iran/Iraqi waters - also searching Irani vessels.
23 March 2007, 03:27 PM
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23 March 2007, 03:32 PM
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I think not!Most news reports claim, they were escorted to Iranian waters! So what would give them the right to detain British troops outside?
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'It coincides with fresh claims of Iranian interference in Iraq' Hmmmmm
23 March 2007, 03:33 PM
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Iran is a very young country in terms of population. Many of them are pretty westernized these days. Whenever you hear any of the bad stuff from Iran it is usually in obscure villages where they are still living like peasants - similar to the situation in the UK and people who live in Norfolk.
23 March 2007, 03:36 PM
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Iran is a very young country in terms of population. Many of them are pretty westernized these days. Whenever you hear any of the bad stuff from Iran it is usually in obscure villages where they are still living like peasants - similar to the situation in the UK and people who live in Norfolk.
23 March 2007, 03:46 PM
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As for Iranian interference in Iraq - again speculation and is it govenment backed - really, who knows or is it more US miss'intellignece' and misinformation from people who have a vested interest in things escallating (for thier own ends) to get the UK et al set against Iran, after the bollox we where fed about Iraq by the US and Blair ( the 45 mins) then i would rather it proved without a shadow of a doubt.
Too much bulsh*t and misinformation from both sides.
23 March 2007, 03:52 PM
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Doesn't look that backwards to me.
TEHERAN - Mega Capital of IRAN - photos of Tehran on Worldisround
TEHERAN - Mega Capital of IRAN - photos of Tehran on Worldisround
23 March 2007, 04:00 PM
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Doesn't look that backwards to me.
TEHERAN - Mega Capital of IRAN - photos of Tehran on Worldisround
TEHERAN - Mega Capital of IRAN - photos of Tehran on Worldisround
23 March 2007, 04:15 PM
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The pics look good 
Not a single old car or poor person to be seen. But under the surface ...
Iran: Release Women's Rights Advocates (Human Rights Watch, 8-3-2007)
The government has considerably increased its harassment and intimidation of women's rights activists in recent weeks. On the morning of March 4, the Judiciary held a trial for four women's rights activists charged with "acting against national security by participating in an illegal gathering." The gathering at issue was a peaceful demonstration on June 12, 2006 to protest discriminatory laws against women.
Nasrin Setoudeh and Mohammad Dadkhah, the two lawyers representing the four women, told Human Rights Watch that the judicial authorities held the trial behind closed doors and did not allow the defendants into the courtroom. The authorities allowed the two lawyers into the courtroom but did allow them to see the defendants' files. The court has not issued a decision in the case.
Not a single old car or poor person to be seen. But under the surface ...Iran: Release Women's Rights Advocates (Human Rights Watch, 8-3-2007)
The government has considerably increased its harassment and intimidation of women's rights activists in recent weeks. On the morning of March 4, the Judiciary held a trial for four women's rights activists charged with "acting against national security by participating in an illegal gathering." The gathering at issue was a peaceful demonstration on June 12, 2006 to protest discriminatory laws against women.
Nasrin Setoudeh and Mohammad Dadkhah, the two lawyers representing the four women, told Human Rights Watch that the judicial authorities held the trial behind closed doors and did not allow the defendants into the courtroom. The authorities allowed the two lawyers into the courtroom but did allow them to see the defendants' files. The court has not issued a decision in the case.
23 March 2007, 04:17 PM
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You posted "Iran is a very young country in terms of population. Many of them are pretty westernized these days. Whenever you hear any of the bad stuff from Iran it is usually in obscure villages where they are still living like peasants - similar to the situation in the UK and people who live in Norfolk."
Have a look and read of:
Country Profiles Foreign & Commonwealth Office
couple of quotes
"There has been a disappointing lack of progress on human rights issues in Iran. One particular and growing concern that has put particular international spotlight on Iran is the punishment of children. We have received a growing number of reports of juvenile offenders being sentenced to death or lashing and of sentences being carried out, including public hanging of children occasionally executed."
"Restrictions on freedom of expression appear to have tightened. The authorities have blocked many websites and weblogs that provide news or comment critical of the regime, and have shut a number of reformist newspapers.
The widespread practices of arbitrary detention following arrest, of detention in unofficial prisons and of torture while in detention continue as a feature of the Iranian penal system. The head of the Judiciary, Ayatollah Shahroudi, said on 28 April 2004: 'Any torture to extract a confession is banned and the confessions extracted through torture are not legitimate and legal', do not appear to have been implemented. A recent report by the UN Special Rapporteur on the Right to Freedom of Expression and Opinion highlighted these failings. We welcome the announcement made in late December 2002 by the head of the Supreme Administrative Court that the practice of stoning had been suspended. We hope the suspension remains permanent. A similar ‘moratorium’ on amputations was declared in March 2003. We are concerned by reports that people continue to receive sentences; it is unclear whether any amputations have been carried out. We also remain extremely concerned about Iran's use of the death penalty. We continue to make our strong concern clear to the Iranian authorities."
"Restrictions on freedom of expression appear to have tightened. The authorities have blocked many websites and weblogs that provide news or comment critical of the regime, and have shut a number of reformist newspapers."
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23 March 2007, 04:33 PM
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As much of a contradiction as the fact that Britain is 100% responsible for the situation in Iran at this present day.
No country is perfect but we still don't have the right to interfere of tell Iran what the correct behaviour is.
Have you read the FCO report on Indonesia? It would scare anyone from going, but in fact it is a very safe and welcoming country. The same with Iran.
I fully support torture to extract confessions as well as amuptation and the dealth penalty. Really don't see the reason why that extract is there.
No country is perfect but we still don't have the right to interfere of tell Iran what the correct behaviour is.
Have you read the FCO report on Indonesia? It would scare anyone from going, but in fact it is a very safe and welcoming country. The same with Iran.
I fully support torture to extract confessions as well as amuptation and the dealth penalty. Really don't see the reason why that extract is there.
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23 March 2007, 04:45 PM
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As much of a contradiction as the fact that Britain is 100% responsible for the situation in Iran at this present day.
No country is perfect but we still don't have the right to interfere of tell Iran what the correct behaviour is.
Have you read the FCO report on Indonesia? It would scare anyone from going, but in fact it is a very safe and welcoming country. The same with Iran.
I fully support torture to extract confessions as well as amuptation and the dealth penalty. Really don't see the reason why that extract is there.
No country is perfect but we still don't have the right to interfere of tell Iran what the correct behaviour is.
Have you read the FCO report on Indonesia? It would scare anyone from going, but in fact it is a very safe and welcoming country. The same with Iran.
I fully support torture to extract confessions as well as amuptation and the dealth penalty. Really don't see the reason why that extract is there.
So you feel comforatable with the death sentence for children then?
How is the UK 100% responsible for the situation in Iran - please expand on this comment
Do you feel that posting a series of nice shiny pictures is justification for your coments and sweeping statements that it is becoming westernized.
Having had business dealing in Iran in '06 i find your coments interesting, i am sure the crew i sent out there for a couple of weeks in Terhan would have a good chuckle and wonder on what you base your coments on
If you want to see how westernzed and progessive it is stand in the middle of Terhan and start reading or quoting from the bible or politial comments and se how long you last before being picked up. then try the same in London or Berlin or Paris or even NY and se how the treatment varies.
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23 March 2007, 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by KiwiGTI
...usually in obscure villages where they are still living like peasants - similar to the situation in the UK and people who live in Norfolk.
Originally Posted by KiwiGTI
Why is that our business? It's their country and laws, we shouldn't be interfering in them.
No country is perfect but we still don't have the right to interfere of tell Iran what the correct behaviour is.
No country is perfect but we still don't have the right to interfere of tell Iran what the correct behaviour is.
23 March 2007, 05:30 PM
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23 March 2007, 05:37 PM
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I've worked with quite a few Iranians over the last couple of years and they have been some of the nicest and most honorable people you could meet. One US/Iranian banker is even married to a New York Jew who regularly goes to Iran to visit family with her.
They are aware of the problems there and they are certainly blown out of proportion. As I said many of the problems lie in the older generation or the smaller villages where they have been indoctrinated with medieval beliefs. A huge majority of the population un Iran is under 30 and they are generally not that happy with a restricted lifestyle, if it could be called that.