The great global warming swindle - CH4 now
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The great global warming swindle - CH4 now
an alternative view on the 'business' of global warming.....
Similar perspective as the Michael Crichton book State of Fear - global warming = social control!
Similar perspective as the Michael Crichton book State of Fear - global warming = social control!
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Nothing like a good dose of TRUTH to put things into perspective.
Rises in CO2 levels throughout history have always lagged behind temperature change by around 800 years. Clearly, therefore CO2 levels cannot drive climate change.
Rises in CO2 levels throughout history have always lagged behind temperature change by around 800 years. Clearly, therefore CO2 levels cannot drive climate change.
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Brilliant programme - at last some commonsense on TV 'science' reporting
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Filmaker Martin Durkin's documentary "The Great Global Warming Scandal" says the sun, and not human-generated greenhouse gases, is to blame for the increase in the Earth's temperature, The Washington Times reported.
Durkin says the greenhouse theory is "the biggest scam of modern times."
The program, scheduled for broadcast Thursday on Britain's Channel 4, features experts in climatology, oceanography, meteorology, biogeography and paleoclimatology, the newspaper said.
University of Ottawa paleontologist Ian Clark says global warming could be caused by increased activity on the sun. Clark said polar ice-core samples show that "warmer periods in Earth's history have come about 800 years before rises in carbon dioxide levels."
Scientists in the documentary also say most of the recent global warming occurred before 1940, followed by a 40-year temperature drop. They say the carbon dioxide created during the post-World War II economic boom should have caused a rise in global temperatures.
Repeated at 22.00 on More4 on 12th March...Durkin says the greenhouse theory is "the biggest scam of modern times."
The program, scheduled for broadcast Thursday on Britain's Channel 4, features experts in climatology, oceanography, meteorology, biogeography and paleoclimatology, the newspaper said.
University of Ottawa paleontologist Ian Clark says global warming could be caused by increased activity on the sun. Clark said polar ice-core samples show that "warmer periods in Earth's history have come about 800 years before rises in carbon dioxide levels."
Scientists in the documentary also say most of the recent global warming occurred before 1940, followed by a 40-year temperature drop. They say the carbon dioxide created during the post-World War II economic boom should have caused a rise in global temperatures.
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Sadly though, that programme was right, the movement has gained so much momentum that it is taken as fact, and no one can question it.
Only in 100 years when nothing has happened will they be vindicated.
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Only in 100 years when nothing has happened will they be vindicated.
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Remember Worries About Global Cooling? - Newsweek Technology - MSNBC.com
Hopefully if more programmes highlight the global warming scam and the media pick up on this as a whole the sooner everyone will recognise this. Rebate on my green tax please!!
Also the polar ice caps on Mars is currently melting away. What's causing Mars to warm up? Not CO2 producing martians thats for sure!!!
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Wow, who would have thought it was the sun all along
It's about time the whole global warming scam was uncovered. I've said it before and it's worth repeating: the planet will look after itself. Whether it looks after us is an entirely different matter.
It's about time the whole global warming scam was uncovered. I've said it before and it's worth repeating: the planet will look after itself. Whether it looks after us is an entirely different matter.
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The media is a big part of the problem. As Illustrated on last night's program, it SUITS them to have this scam, their jobs in many cases depend in it and the more hysterical the stories, the better for them.
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Very interesting the IPCC listing the names of the experts that wholeheartedly disagreed with their report, because they 'contributed'. The little fact that their only contribution was to debunk the IPCC's conclusion that global warming is manmade via CO2 - was overlooked!
Surely this must discredit the IPCC and any 'report' of theirs?
Surely this must discredit the IPCC and any 'report' of theirs?
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It's amazing how everyone appears to have latched on to this programme, as being the authoritive view on global warming. Be careful though, most of the 'new evidence' stated yesterday is in fact old evidence that (depending on what side of this debate you are on) has/ hasn't been debunked.
I did find it interesting, however just with the green lobby there are agendas flying around on the other side too.
It still amazes me how anyone on here can say with certainty that this is or isn't man made.... keep an open mind guys, and don't get sucked in by either sides propaganda, just because it suits your lifestyle.
I did find it interesting, however just with the green lobby there are agendas flying around on the other side too.
It still amazes me how anyone on here can say with certainty that this is or isn't man made.... keep an open mind guys, and don't get sucked in by either sides propaganda, just because it suits your lifestyle.
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As above - This is a report arguing one side of the debate. There is plenty of research out there to rebutt every single one of the points made in last nights programme. Just because the report happened to coincide with your own particular viewpoint does not make it the undisputable truth.
Keep an open mind.
Keep an open mind.
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And there in lies the problem. How do you work out the facts from all the biased views being offered? It seems that there are different was you can interpret the data. I for one, have an open mind and will listen to both side of the argument and make my own mind up on what is the "truth". I'm all for cutting back on pollution (this is not the same as reducing C02 emissions, I'm talking about fumes, poisons, toxins, &c being released into the environment). I want to live in an unspoiled green and pleasant land and believe this is where the energy of the Green movement should be directed.
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Of course, really, it doesn't matter which side of the fence you come down on. The powers that be have already decided that man made CO2 emmissions *are* a cause of climate change. There is not a single main stream political party that is not fully commited to lowering carbon emmissions. This attitude is not likely to change any time soon. For better or worse, the west is now committed to a course of action, and no amount of documentaries offering an opposing view is going to change that.
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I thought it was a fascinating programme and what swayed me was that it is based on real records going back a long way in time rather than theories. I suppose that if the government slap large amounts of dosh on the table and say investigate global warmimng, then the answers could just be somewhat biased. What made me sit up was when the professor said that Man's contrbution to the CO2 in the atmosphere was in the order of 0.1%
Wonderful scam for PSL's heros of course. Wonder why after they increase taxes on taking a plane trip in order to reduce global warming by the aircraft, that they have supported the airports' wishes to double the amount of passengers and aircraft that they can handle in a year! Can you explain that one PSL, or are you going to hide as usual?
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Wonderful scam for PSL's heros of course. Wonder why after they increase taxes on taking a plane trip in order to reduce global warming by the aircraft, that they have supported the airports' wishes to double the amount of passengers and aircraft that they can handle in a year! Can you explain that one PSL, or are you going to hide as usual?
Les
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I'd like to see the fuel on aviation tax being raised to the same level that we are paying for our cars (or ours reduced but yeah, that's going to happen !).
Nothing to do with global warming, everything to do with fairness. The price would be passed onto the consumer. So what ? It wasn't so long ago that flying used to be a rare luxury. Now you can get to the south of France in a rididulously fast, comparitively less stressful and more comfortable time by train and the money saved is extra beers.
Nothing to do with global warming, everything to do with fairness. The price would be passed onto the consumer. So what ? It wasn't so long ago that flying used to be a rare luxury. Now you can get to the south of France in a rididulously fast, comparitively less stressful and more comfortable time by train and the money saved is extra beers.
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I am sorry that I missed the programme - repeat??
Based on info from an earlier SN thread an excellent USA based source estimates that 3% of CO2 emissions are man made of which 25% are from vehicles. Of that 2% are from UK. However that 3% may effect the overall finely tuned balance.
Did the programme claim that global warming wasn't happening or just that we are not really to blame? dl
Based on info from an earlier SN thread an excellent USA based source estimates that 3% of CO2 emissions are man made of which 25% are from vehicles. Of that 2% are from UK. However that 3% may effect the overall finely tuned balance.
Did the programme claim that global warming wasn't happening or just that we are not really to blame? dl
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To answer your question, I caught the last 30 mins of it and in a nutshell they were saying that warming is a natural phenomena caused by the sun getting warmer. The warmer the planet the more CO2 is released not the reverse. I actually smiled a little more than usual this morning when putting my foot down just a tad more
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Conclusions were
1) Temperatures are rising, but this is not something new or unnatural (temps actually fell for 40 years during the greatest C02 production post WW2)
2) C02 levels lag behind temperature raised by about 800 years, so the notion that C02 causes warming is invalid. In fact global warming causes increased C02, not the other way around.
3) Mans effect on C02 levels is very small (I can't recall the actual numbers)
4) The suns sunspot activity coincided with the temp changes and was a more likely cause of higher temps
5) Climate Change research were largely funded by governments with a bias towards making C02 producing industries (coal, oil) the cause of climate change so the nuclear power could be promoted.
I think that's about it