Petition Save Battle of Britain Heritage
01 February 2007, 01:25 PM
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Petition Save Battle of Britain Heritage
I am a battle of Britain historian.
And this has come to my attention. One of the last few remaining parts of our heritage from this part of history is about to be demolished. You can sign the online petion here to stop this happening.
We the undersigned petition the Prime Minister to Stop the demolition of historic Battle of Britain architecture at RAF Northolt.
For a bit more background info go here
Help try to save our Battle of Britain heritage!
The point is that I have recorded most of surviving Battle of Britain structures left in the South East over the years and very few are left. For example both Hawkinge and West Malling airfields have been developed in recent years.
A bit of poor state of afairs considering this was first battle for hundreds of years that happened over and on our soil that literally changed the course of history. It was also the largest air battle the world has ever seen etc etc.
For those that are interested. The only origional surviving 1940 battle of Britain period watch tower existing in the UK can now be seen at Goodwood circut if you are ever down there for a track day.
Steve
And this has come to my attention. One of the last few remaining parts of our heritage from this part of history is about to be demolished. You can sign the online petion here to stop this happening.
We the undersigned petition the Prime Minister to Stop the demolition of historic Battle of Britain architecture at RAF Northolt.
For a bit more background info go here
Help try to save our Battle of Britain heritage!
The point is that I have recorded most of surviving Battle of Britain structures left in the South East over the years and very few are left. For example both Hawkinge and West Malling airfields have been developed in recent years.
A bit of poor state of afairs considering this was first battle for hundreds of years that happened over and on our soil that literally changed the course of history. It was also the largest air battle the world has ever seen etc etc.
For those that are interested. The only origional surviving 1940 battle of Britain period watch tower existing in the UK can now be seen at Goodwood circut if you are ever down there for a track day.
Steve
01 February 2007, 01:38 PM
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An admirable concern Steve, but these online petitions are unfortunately as useful as an inflatable dartboard and are being abused by the less deserving...(take the spazzy road monitoring one which 600,000 simpletons signed 
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Good luck in your quest and I hope other lines of attack which are much more likely to succeed are taken up...
)Good luck in your quest and I hope other lines of attack which are much more likely to succeed are taken up...
01 February 2007, 01:54 PM
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I am afraid i is a case of property developers and councils pissing all over a very very important part of our heritage. Obviously ex BofB airfields in the South East are prime bits of real estate - and well I am a realist so I suppose with the presure for housing and the like fair enough many of them have been built on. But one should have been saved intact with the buildings perhaps put to other uses a museam and lots office space for private businesses to help pay the way. But hey thats common sense. The biggest missed opportunity was probably when the buildings at Kenly were pulled down. Odd and sods have surived but not one intact airfield.
Abdabz - Firstly thanks
I know exactly where you are coming from. I think many of us are a bit cynical-realistic about our ability to actualy influence in this day and age. But hey you have to try - so perhaps it will make a difference.
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They have hangars like that at Bassingbourne Barracks in Royston, or they did when I was based there in the early 90s. Not being a hangar expert I am not sure if they are exactly the same but to the untrained eye they look pretty similar. 
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For a totally unrelated and far less important campaign, I helped our community beat big business recently and it was tiresome and a bit of a pain, but we came through
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Signed! 
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Signed in loving memory of my dear uncle Harry who was a co-pilot bomb aimer in a Lancaster
RIP Uncle Harry
Cheers
Colin
RIP Uncle HarryCheers
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An admirable concern Steve, but these online petitions are unfortunately as useful as an inflatable dartboard and are being abused by the less deserving...(take the spazzy road monitoring one which 600,000 simpletons signed )
Good luck in your quest and I hope other lines of attack which are much more likely to succeed are taken up...
)Good luck in your quest and I hope other lines of attack which are much more likely to succeed are taken up...
02 February 2007, 12:19 PM
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Thanks Les
Here are some pointers.
Its a very small modest looking building (not the size you would associate with a later wartime mid 40s control tower). It is near the aircrew memorial if remember rightly inside the circuit. I dont think it has a plaque or anything - I hope it is protected. But if it dissapeared today I dont think many would notice or realise.
Steve
Here are some pointers.
Its a very small modest looking building (not the size you would associate with a later wartime mid 40s control tower). It is near the aircrew memorial if remember rightly inside the circuit. I dont think it has a plaque or anything - I hope it is protected. But if it dissapeared today I dont think many would notice or realise.
Steve
20 February 2007, 09:28 AM
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Steve, how did you feel about the response from Bliar?
"The Government takes its obligations to preserving the heritage of the defence estate very seriously. However, the need to preserve must be balanced against the need to fulfil our defence requirements, both now and in the future.
Project MOD Estates London (MoDEL) seeks to implement the Ministry of Defence (MOD) Estate Strategy by combining operations from a number of sites across Greater London at RAF Northolt. It represents a significant rationalisation of the defence estate in Greater London, consolidating the facilities occupied by UK forces onto a modern, integrated 'anchor site'. This will generate a number of benefits in terms of reduced running costs, improved efficiency, consolidated resources and improvement to quality of life for the current and future generations of MOD personnel.
In investing an initial £180 million in the development of RAF Northolt the MOD developed a masterplan, informed by the English Heritage's Aviation Thematic Review. This masterplan sought to deliver a fit for purpose site which improved the quality of service personnel accommodation while preserving and recording heritage elements. At only 190 hectares the site is a relatively small airfield and the area capable of development is constrained by town and country planning limitations. There are also issues relating to airfield operations and security restrictions.
Difficult decisions had to be made. Both the A type hangar (hangar 6), including the associated Operational ready room, and the former Operations Room (building 27), were not recommended for listing as part of the Aviation Thematic review and are subsequently to be demolished after an agreed scheme of archaeological recording. These buildings will make way for the new offices and parade square for the Queen's Colour Squadron plus a facility to house the Central Band of the RAF and Headquarters Music Service.
Significantly the masterplan also includes enhancement to the setting of certain buildings such as the current Station HQ, (building 28) and the Officers' Mess which is being sympathetically enlarged and its function retained in keeping with its Grade II listed status.
Through this MOD intends to strike the right balance between preserving the most important elements of our Nation's past whilst meeting the needs of our armed forces in the future"
Cheers, Abdabz
"The Government takes its obligations to preserving the heritage of the defence estate very seriously. However, the need to preserve must be balanced against the need to fulfil our defence requirements, both now and in the future.
Project MOD Estates London (MoDEL) seeks to implement the Ministry of Defence (MOD) Estate Strategy by combining operations from a number of sites across Greater London at RAF Northolt. It represents a significant rationalisation of the defence estate in Greater London, consolidating the facilities occupied by UK forces onto a modern, integrated 'anchor site'. This will generate a number of benefits in terms of reduced running costs, improved efficiency, consolidated resources and improvement to quality of life for the current and future generations of MOD personnel.
In investing an initial £180 million in the development of RAF Northolt the MOD developed a masterplan, informed by the English Heritage's Aviation Thematic Review. This masterplan sought to deliver a fit for purpose site which improved the quality of service personnel accommodation while preserving and recording heritage elements. At only 190 hectares the site is a relatively small airfield and the area capable of development is constrained by town and country planning limitations. There are also issues relating to airfield operations and security restrictions.
Difficult decisions had to be made. Both the A type hangar (hangar 6), including the associated Operational ready room, and the former Operations Room (building 27), were not recommended for listing as part of the Aviation Thematic review and are subsequently to be demolished after an agreed scheme of archaeological recording. These buildings will make way for the new offices and parade square for the Queen's Colour Squadron plus a facility to house the Central Band of the RAF and Headquarters Music Service.
Significantly the masterplan also includes enhancement to the setting of certain buildings such as the current Station HQ, (building 28) and the Officers' Mess which is being sympathetically enlarged and its function retained in keeping with its Grade II listed status.
Through this MOD intends to strike the right balance between preserving the most important elements of our Nation's past whilst meeting the needs of our armed forces in the future"
Cheers, Abdabz
20 February 2007, 08:49 PM
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Abdabz
Well what I half expected.
The typical non comittal drivel. But if you read between the lines they are going to knock it down.
....generate a number of benefits ....... reduced running costs, Blah blah blah.... consolidated resources and improvement to quality of life for the current and future generations of MOD personnel....Blah Blah Blah...
If there is any more news on this I will post
Cheers
Steve
Well what I half expected.
The typical non comittal drivel. But if you read between the lines they are going to knock it down.
....generate a number of benefits ....... reduced running costs, Blah blah blah.... consolidated resources and improvement to quality of life for the current and future generations of MOD personnel....Blah Blah Blah...
If there is any more news on this I will post
Cheers
Steve
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