What has happened in 20 years
24 January 2007, 01:32 PM
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What has happened in 20 years
To make life so difficult now.
Left school 20 years ago.Simple plan,same as everyone else's.
Get job (possibly for life)
Get mortgage 3 x salary
Pay into pension scheme
Retire at 65 reasonably comfortable.
The above is now just a dream for everyone.What the flippin hell happened to it and why????
Can't understand how we are all 'better off than we ever were'.
No we aren't
Left school 20 years ago.Simple plan,same as everyone else's.
Get job (possibly for life)
Get mortgage 3 x salary
Pay into pension scheme
Retire at 65 reasonably comfortable.
The above is now just a dream for everyone.What the flippin hell happened to it and why????
Can't understand how we are all 'better off than we ever were'.
No we aren't
24 January 2007, 01:40 PM
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I don't know the answers but I'm really struggling with the fact that the above scenario is about as appealing to me as drinking my own p*ss.
I've really come to realise in the last year or two that I don't want to be a normal part of society. I don't want to work a job for someone else for 40 years, pay my NI and taxes, take my holiday in the sun every year (if I'm lucky), have a mortgage that I pay off (at high overall cost) over the course of the next 25-30 years!
I want more flexibility in life. To this end I'm trying really hard to build up the bankroll and win-rate at poker part time so that I can go to full time play. It's not easy though and I just don't see any other outs for me. If I don't make it I'll spend the next 35 years being a worker drone and its just not an existance I'll be happy with. Each to their own because I know some people would be more than happy with a half-decent wage, safe, secure prospects, 2.2 children, mortgage, wife and a mondeo.....but not me
I've really come to realise in the last year or two that I don't want to be a normal part of society. I don't want to work a job for someone else for 40 years, pay my NI and taxes, take my holiday in the sun every year (if I'm lucky), have a mortgage that I pay off (at high overall cost) over the course of the next 25-30 years!
I want more flexibility in life. To this end I'm trying really hard to build up the bankroll and win-rate at poker part time so that I can go to full time play. It's not easy though and I just don't see any other outs for me. If I don't make it I'll spend the next 35 years being a worker drone and its just not an existance I'll be happy with. Each to their own because I know some people would be more than happy with a half-decent wage, safe, secure prospects, 2.2 children, mortgage, wife and a mondeo.....but not me
24 January 2007, 01:41 PM
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Ahh yes but 
20 years ago meant;
1. Get job (possibly for life) - not something in IT that changed every two months.
2. Get mortgage 3 x salary - And stay in said house or move possibly once or twice, not every three years.
3. Pay into pension scheme - Which would still be there as the company would not "speculate" with it.
4. Retire at 65 reasonably comfortable - See "3"
20 years ago meant;
1. Get job (possibly for life) - not something in IT that changed every two months.
2. Get mortgage 3 x salary - And stay in said house or move possibly once or twice, not every three years.
3. Pay into pension scheme - Which would still be there as the company would not "speculate" with it.
4. Retire at 65 reasonably comfortable - See "3"
24 January 2007, 01:43 PM
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24 January 2007, 01:51 PM
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It comes to me that 20 years ago it would be impossible to fritter away 1/2 a days earning potential on scoobynet complaing about how tough life is
24 January 2007, 01:53 PM
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What hasn't changed in the last 20 yrs - no matter how much the life of the average Brit improves (better weather, increased wealth, internet, fast cars), s/he will STILL find something to complain about.
24 January 2007, 02:06 PM
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Agreed - ***** to that.
most people will never get rich working for someone else.
i know a guy who has just sold his home and small garage business and is officially retired (at 38) and has buggered off to France to live.
I cant think of anything worse than working my nuts off just to pay my mortgage - retire at 65-70 and maybe have 5 years of quality life left till i snuff it.
no thanks
most people will never get rich working for someone else.
i know a guy who has just sold his home and small garage business and is officially retired (at 38) and has buggered off to France to live.
I cant think of anything worse than working my nuts off just to pay my mortgage - retire at 65-70 and maybe have 5 years of quality life left till i snuff it.
no thanks
24 January 2007, 04:11 PM
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24 January 2007, 04:26 PM
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To make life so difficult now.
Left school 20 years ago.Simple plan,same as everyone else's.
Get job (possibly for life)
Get mortgage 3 x salary
Pay into pension scheme
Retire at 65 reasonably comfortable.
The above is now just a dream for everyone.What the flippin hell happened to it and why????
Can't understand how we are all 'better off than we ever were'.
No we aren't
Left school 20 years ago.Simple plan,same as everyone else's.
Get job (possibly for life)
Get mortgage 3 x salary
Pay into pension scheme
Retire at 65 reasonably comfortable.
The above is now just a dream for everyone.What the flippin hell happened to it and why????
Can't understand how we are all 'better off than we ever were'.
No we aren't
24 January 2007, 05:53 PM
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They were/are both as bad as each other. Thatcher's Tories and Blair's New Labour, both full to the brim with corruption, sleaze, liars and cheats, out for their own gains and not in the slightest bit genuinely interested in the good of the country.
Depressing really
24 January 2007, 05:54 PM
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Agreed - ***** to that.
most people will never get rich working for someone else.
i know a guy who has just sold his home and small garage business and is officially retired (at 38) and has buggered off to France to live.
I cant think of anything worse than working my nuts off just to pay my mortgage - retire at 65-70 and maybe have 5 years of quality life left till i snuff it.
no thanks
most people will never get rich working for someone else.
i know a guy who has just sold his home and small garage business and is officially retired (at 38) and has buggered off to France to live.
I cant think of anything worse than working my nuts off just to pay my mortgage - retire at 65-70 and maybe have 5 years of quality life left till i snuff it.
no thanks
24 January 2007, 06:28 PM
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More Scoobynet doom and gloom 
Most simple things in life are easily attainable, if:
1/ You are prepared to do something about it
2/ You are prepared to get of your **** and do some work
3/ You don't sit around in front of a PC whining about it constantly on internet forums.
Most simple things in life are easily attainable, if:
1/ You are prepared to do something about it
2/ You are prepared to get of your **** and do some work
3/ You don't sit around in front of a PC whining about it constantly on internet forums.
24 January 2007, 06:44 PM
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More Scoobynet doom and gloom
Most simple things in life are easily attainable, if:
1/ You are prepared to do something about it
2/ You are prepared to get of your **** and do some work
3/ You don't sit around in front of a PC whining about it constantly on internet forums.
Most simple things in life are easily attainable, if:
1/ You are prepared to do something about it
2/ You are prepared to get of your **** and do some work
3/ You don't sit around in front of a PC whining about it constantly on internet forums.
Alcazar
24 January 2007, 07:00 PM
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I don't know the answers but I'm really struggling with the fact that the above scenario is about as appealing to me as drinking my own p*ss.
I've really come to realise in the last year or two that I don't want to be a normal part of society. I don't want to work a job for someone else for 40 years, pay my NI and taxes, take my holiday in the sun every year (if I'm lucky), have a mortgage that I pay off (at high overall cost) over the course of the next 25-30 years!
I want more flexibility in life. To this end I'm trying really hard to build up the bankroll and win-rate at poker part time so that I can go to full time play. It's not easy though and I just don't see any other outs for me. If I don't make it I'll spend the next 35 years being a worker drone and its just not an existance I'll be happy with. Each to their own because I know some people would be more than happy with a half-decent wage, safe, secure prospects, 2.2 children, mortgage, wife and a mondeo.....but not me
I've really come to realise in the last year or two that I don't want to be a normal part of society. I don't want to work a job for someone else for 40 years, pay my NI and taxes, take my holiday in the sun every year (if I'm lucky), have a mortgage that I pay off (at high overall cost) over the course of the next 25-30 years!
I want more flexibility in life. To this end I'm trying really hard to build up the bankroll and win-rate at poker part time so that I can go to full time play. It's not easy though and I just don't see any other outs for me. If I don't make it I'll spend the next 35 years being a worker drone and its just not an existance I'll be happy with. Each to their own because I know some people would be more than happy with a half-decent wage, safe, secure prospects, 2.2 children, mortgage, wife and a mondeo.....but not me
24 January 2007, 07:41 PM
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They may detest everything about what the UK has become etc. so much so their sole contribution is to moan about it on Scoobynet
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Never mind 20yrs, in 10 yrs i will be sitting in my ivory tower sipping champers & eating strawberries surround by ................. 
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