Can you get done for downloading from Torrent web sites?
05 January 2007, 07:48 PM
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Can you get done for downloading from Torrent web sites?
I've heard its possible to download latest films from torrent websites (search engines).
I know this is probably illegal, but has anyone been done for it? I've also heard some lawsuits have been taken out by undercover agents who upload files and then record IP address details of downloaders and then trace them.
UK specific news would be appreciated.
I know this is probably illegal, but has anyone been done for it? I've also heard some lawsuits have been taken out by undercover agents who upload files and then record IP address details of downloaders and then trace them.
UK specific news would be appreciated.
05 January 2007, 07:51 PM
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oh and its utorrent you want to download then go from there using sites like spytorrent.com but Im not completely sure on stuff like that 
05 January 2007, 07:54 PM
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As soon as a new torrent is made available on one of the torrent sites millions up millions of people download them, so i cant see you getting caught to be honest, also if a police officer or some agency uploaded a torrent and you downloaded it, wouldn't that be entrapment and therefore no chance of a prosecution.
05 January 2007, 07:58 PM
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I've download at least 2 gig a week for over two years and ive never been caught yet or know anyone else that has, its urban myths, websites might be shut down, but not a individual user.
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05 January 2007, 07:59 PM
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MUCH more likely to be busted for sharing lots than just downloading.
It isnt illegal to download as such, it's illegal to download and use pirated songs/films/apps
It isnt illegal to download as such, it's illegal to download and use pirated songs/films/apps
05 January 2007, 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by davegtt
WTF have you been downloading to get 2gig a week for 2 years solid under your belt? 
05 January 2007, 09:33 PM
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I know someone who got sent a cease and desist letter for downloading a game on bittorrent. It was genuine too, not a wind up. He deleted what he'd downloaded and didn't do it again and they left him alone.
People have been done, granted only a tiny % but they still get done. It's pretty easy to log IP's using bittorrent, and if they take you to court your ISP has to provide IP logs if summoned.
Not worth the risk IMO, besides it's a bit pikey isn't it - like shoplifting or sneaking in to the cinema through a fire exit. Still theft at the end of the day.
Of course, if you used something like Peerguardian and were connected to the net via someone elses wireless LAN, then things change a little.
People have been done, granted only a tiny % but they still get done. It's pretty easy to log IP's using bittorrent, and if they take you to court your ISP has to provide IP logs if summoned.
Not worth the risk IMO, besides it's a bit pikey isn't it - like shoplifting or sneaking in to the cinema through a fire exit. Still theft at the end of the day.
Of course, if you used something like Peerguardian and were connected to the net via someone elses wireless LAN, then things change a little.
05 January 2007, 09:36 PM
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There was something in the papers about a teenager who was downloading stuff music i think.. the parents didn't know until they had a fine through for a couple of thousand.. it might have been in the states though
Nope, UK..
Parents count the cost of free music | Technology | Guardian Unlimited Technology
Nope, UK..
Parents count the cost of free music | Technology | Guardian Unlimited Technology
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05 January 2007, 09:44 PM
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Even if you got caught and recived a letter like that install a backdoor on your machine i.e trojan and claim someone else was using your machine as a proxy to do these acts.
05 January 2007, 09:49 PM
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And before some clever sod who has no idea of the trojan scene comes out and says well they would be able to tell what date the trojan was installed, certain trojans let you adjust the date they installed themselves, in the edit server section of the trojan.
05 January 2007, 09:53 PM
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And before some clever sod who has no idea of the trojan scene comes out and says well they would be able to tell what date the trojan was installed, certain trojans let you adjust the date they installed themselves, in the edit server section of the trojan.
and £15.99 for a double album with 30 tracks on,you could argue those pikey record companies have been robbing us blind for years.
05 January 2007, 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Jonno_johnson
Even if you got caught and recived a letter like that install a backdoor on your machine i.e trojan and claim someone else was using your machine as a proxy to do these acts.
05 January 2007, 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by kingofturds
Yeah but if they turned up on your doorstep and yoinked your pc,you would have all that lovely illegal content on your hard drive.
and £15.99 for a double album with 30 tracks on,you could argue those pikey record companies have been robbing us blind for years.
and £15.99 for a double album with 30 tracks on,you could argue those pikey record companies have been robbing us blind for years.
05 January 2007, 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Chris L
You'd be amazed what a forensic examination of your hard drive using EnCASE will reveal! Not as easy to hide your tracks as you might think
05 January 2007, 10:04 PM
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Ever heard of data remnance? Tell that to the guys we've just finished investigating for a large corporate who were suspected of d/l **** etc. We found & recovered records / emails / pictures dating back 2 years...
05 January 2007, 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Chris L
Ever heard of data remnance? Tell that to the guys we've just finished investigating for a large corporate who were suspected of d/l **** etc. We found & recovered records / emails / pictures dating back 2 years...
05 January 2007, 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by davegtt
Alternatively use an external HDD which you hide when not using the PC 
05 January 2007, 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Shark Man
Funnily, you can d/l encase on BT 