Council tax...how much do you pay?
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Council tax...how much do you pay?
We live near Chelmsford (Essex) in a 3 bed detached property. There are now three of us there due to our recent arrival Charlie (born October 2006) so no single person discount applies.
We pay £127 pounds per month and the house is worth £215k approx.
It seems a lot of money to pay for the service we receive.
I just wondered how much everyone has to pay depending on where abouts they live ,and wheather they think its good value for money bearing in mind in my situation i'm already paying 40% tax on income, Vat , tax on fuel etc.
Cheers,
Dog.
We pay £127 pounds per month and the house is worth £215k approx.
It seems a lot of money to pay for the service we receive.
I just wondered how much everyone has to pay depending on where abouts they live ,and wheather they think its good value for money bearing in mind in my situation i'm already paying 40% tax on income, Vat , tax on fuel etc.
Cheers,
Dog.
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my house is only a smallish 3 bedroomed mid-terrace, not far from the steelworks in scunny actually. i pay around £950 per annum. cant give exact amount, as it changed mid-term after my girlfriend moved into my house, and i thus lost the 25% single occupany discount.
for a house thats worth around £90k, it seems a lot considering what we get for our money. give them credit, the dustbin-men/paper lorries etc are always on time, but you never seem to see any policing round here, but its generally a quiet street me and my boss live on anyway.
i know her mam and dad were recently brought down from band-c to band-b in council tax terms, but pay lots more than we do, on an old fashioned cottage in a small town a few miles away...
andy
for a house thats worth around £90k, it seems a lot considering what we get for our money. give them credit, the dustbin-men/paper lorries etc are always on time, but you never seem to see any policing round here, but its generally a quiet street me and my boss live on anyway.
i know her mam and dad were recently brought down from band-c to band-b in council tax terms, but pay lots more than we do, on an old fashioned cottage in a small town a few miles away...
andy
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£90 a month for me. A terrace house valued at 3 pence and some buttons when they did the initial valuations
I still think £90 a month to have my bin emptied is a bit steep though
I still think £90 a month to have my bin emptied is a bit steep though
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£102 for a 3 bed detached. We have a loony tunes bin / recycling policy, naff all police and roads in constant needs of repair. However, they seem to be able to find the funds to have at least 1 speed camera on every road in and out of the town.
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I wouldn't mind paying the money if the service was better. Our bins only get emptied every two weeks, and even with us re-cycling as much as possible theres always too much rubbish to get in the wheelie bin. This results in the whole estate having hundreds of black bin liners outside their houses for at least 3/4 days before the bin men/women come round. Surely this is a health risk?
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Originally Posted by Gordon_Brown
When Blair goes and I'm in, I propose to; cut your current council tax by 10%. We need to keep the tories out.
Gordon,
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Gordon,
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When the PT was introduced, we were fortunate, the value of our property meant we were only paying £92 A year!!
then things escalated....
now with the poll/councill tax we pay in excess of £140 pcm (diffrent house though)
But the bills could be lower, much lower, its all down to how the daft system worked....
councils usually get an annual budget from HMG,,, however if they come in under budget, then the next year, they only get the under budget amount. The idea from HMG being that it makes the council lean and proves efficiency. However the councils aren't daft, and want as much of the pot as they can
So April to Dec, they spend only what they have to to manage the budget, (good sense), then in January, they see what they have left, then spend spend spend, to ensure that come the annual review, they are in the red, thus forcing HMG to give them more money for the next year. Thats why all streets get repaired in January / Feb
In reality, local councils are no better than hmg, the money dosent get allocated where it should, the best Kudos, PR projects will get money, the areas that need it get left, or minimal funding with hype applied.
Just read the crap that each sector of the council puts through your door, each claims to be the best, and have achieved the most, when in reality, they all have had to work together to achieve the results.
The one that really gets me though, is the budgetary waste, each council has.(stationary / office spending) They lecture us on waste efficiency, but theres often borders on astronomical.
One reason why, accountability, in short they aren't they know that within 7 years they may be out, or they will blame the problems on something else.
Mart
then things escalated....
now with the poll/councill tax we pay in excess of £140 pcm (diffrent house though)
But the bills could be lower, much lower, its all down to how the daft system worked....
councils usually get an annual budget from HMG,,, however if they come in under budget, then the next year, they only get the under budget amount. The idea from HMG being that it makes the council lean and proves efficiency. However the councils aren't daft, and want as much of the pot as they can
So April to Dec, they spend only what they have to to manage the budget, (good sense), then in January, they see what they have left, then spend spend spend, to ensure that come the annual review, they are in the red, thus forcing HMG to give them more money for the next year. Thats why all streets get repaired in January / Feb
In reality, local councils are no better than hmg, the money dosent get allocated where it should, the best Kudos, PR projects will get money, the areas that need it get left, or minimal funding with hype applied.
Just read the crap that each sector of the council puts through your door, each claims to be the best, and have achieved the most, when in reality, they all have had to work together to achieve the results.
The one that really gets me though, is the budgetary waste, each council has.(stationary / office spending) They lecture us on waste efficiency, but theres often borders on astronomical.
One reason why, accountability, in short they aren't they know that within 7 years they may be out, or they will blame the problems on something else.
Mart
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Originally Posted by RoShamBo
£193 per month
I keep being tempted to write and ask them exactly what I get for my money ..... bet i know what their response would be!
Dave
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£235 but only because they took forever to value my new house so didn't pay anything for almost 6 months, wishing i'd saved up for when they finally collared me
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You only have to look through the regional paper (or Guardian) job ads to see why the council taxes are so high.
"West Indian Lesbian Liaison Officer (Grade 5 - review pending)
The purpose of this job (other than to pay you £35k a year), is to ensure that this minority group are properly integrated in to society etc. etc. etc."
"West Indian Lesbian Liaison Officer (Grade 5 - review pending)
The purpose of this job (other than to pay you £35k a year), is to ensure that this minority group are properly integrated in to society etc. etc. etc."
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Originally Posted by hutton_d
And all I see is the bins getting emptied - which they do fairly well - and every week! Other than that the council may as well not exist for all that I see them.
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The last bill was £960 ish p.a for a 3 bed semi worth about £100k in Nottingham, but that's now changed for next year as my Dad has now had to move to a residential home for health reasons and I'm on my own. I fully expect any discount to be swallowed up by the next round of council tax rises.
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I can tell you how it is spent.
Council bloke this AM has spent the whole morning trimming a small bush. Leaving the engine on his council van running so he can sit in it and warm up every few minutes.
Any normal person would do a proper job in 20mins max.
Also seen them working on a private car (in the council car park, in council time, in council uniform) for 4+ hours.
They also keep very nice hours ie 9:05am to 4:50pm 1hour 10 for lunch. They also get free parking in council carparks for which you or I would have to pay £4+ a day.
Its a total disgrace
Council bloke this AM has spent the whole morning trimming a small bush. Leaving the engine on his council van running so he can sit in it and warm up every few minutes.
Any normal person would do a proper job in 20mins max.
Also seen them working on a private car (in the council car park, in council time, in council uniform) for 4+ hours.
They also keep very nice hours ie 9:05am to 4:50pm 1hour 10 for lunch. They also get free parking in council carparks for which you or I would have to pay £4+ a day.
Its a total disgrace
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I can tell you how it is spent.
Council bloke this AM has spent the whole morning trimming a small bush. Leaving the engine on his council van running so he can sit in it and warm up every few minutes.
Any normal person would do a proper job in 20mins max.
Also seen them working on a private car (in the council car park, in council time, in council uniform) for 4+ hours.
They also keep very nice hours ie 9:05am to 4:50pm 1hour 10 for lunch. They also get free parking in council carparks for which you or I would have to pay £4+ a day.
Its a total disgrace
Council bloke this AM has spent the whole morning trimming a small bush. Leaving the engine on his council van running so he can sit in it and warm up every few minutes.
Any normal person would do a proper job in 20mins max.
Also seen them working on a private car (in the council car park, in council time, in council uniform) for 4+ hours.
They also keep very nice hours ie 9:05am to 4:50pm 1hour 10 for lunch. They also get free parking in council carparks for which you or I would have to pay £4+ a day.
Its a total disgrace
Do you work for the council then .... ??
Dave