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Old 15 November 2006, 12:56 PM
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And after bills, you couldn't afford to get to work.

Now I'm still waiting to speak to HR so can't speculate too much until I have spoken to them.

Basically I'm short of the expenses for my travel (I spend £360 month getting to work)
Old 15 November 2006, 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Simon C
And after bills, you couldn't afford to get to work.

Now I'm still waiting to speak to HR so can't speculate too much until I have spoken to them.

Basically I'm short of the expenses for my travel (I spend £360 month getting to work)
Are you saying:

A) You don't earn enough to pay bills and travel to work

or

B) You have not been paid all your wages due to you

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I'd think I was both in the wrong job and too far from my workplace
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Go postal
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Things can't be that tight surely?
Old 15 November 2006, 01:02 PM
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I would be bloody furious!!!!
I am self employed tho so arguing with myself means my medication has worn off


Hope this works out for you tho.
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Originally Posted by DCI Gene Hunt
Are you saying:

A) You don't earn enough to pay bills and travel to work

or

B) You have not been paid all your wages due to you

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I do earn enough to cover option A, so its looking like option B or they have got my basic wrong.
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I do earn enough to cover option A, so its looking like option B or they have got my basic wrong.
That's somewhat annoying!....... once they work out what they should've paid you ask them for a cash advance to cover it...... **** waiting another month for them to sort it out
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Yeah, tell me about it. But get this, HR only work part time!!

I'm willing to bet, that they won't shift on their position. Stupid thing is, when I worked for this company before, every paypacket was spot on, no messing about.
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Originally Posted by Simon C
Yeah, tell me about it. But get this, HR only work part time!!

I'm willing to bet, that they won't shift on their position. Stupid thing is, when I worked for this company before, every paypacket was spot on, no messing about.
Maybe if they worked full time they wouldn'ty **** it up! but keep asking for an advance as you'll soon be two months behind at this rate....
Old 15 November 2006, 01:24 PM
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somehow I still think they'd manage to **** up. Now waiting for a call back.

I've forewarned my boss that they have underpaid me, and by how much. He's bricking it now (as am I).

Ok I was expecting cash to be tight for a couple of months, but not to be underpaid.
Old 15 November 2006, 05:47 PM
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Well I've had 2 months at emergency tax!

Now work will do me an advance, so I'm left with working out how much tax I've overpaid so I don't leave decembers paycheque short.

Also HR seem to think I should be claiming expenses too as I work 147 miles from the office. Now I was told that I couldn't do that when I took the job. So the next few days will prove intresting.

Any HR or contacting guru's out there that could shed light on this? I am on a short term conract but as a direct employee.
Old 15 November 2006, 05:53 PM
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I'd just ask for an advanced payment via your line manager / HR... A one off cheque / bank transfer cant be that hard to work out if you are owed money. If its' a tax issue (like late P45 processing) then you will have to borrow it off friends and family and take it on the chin.

I didnt think they did emergency tax anymore?? Shows what I know!

From my experience as a people manager working closely with HR (not that you'd know ), the distance travelled means little to nothing unless you negotiated special things when you agreed to join your employer. I accepted a job 60 miles away last year and was promised flexible working - I didnt get it once I started... I left rather than fight the management and now work 12 miles from home...

Or you would kidnap a senior manager and hold him to ransom
Old 15 November 2006, 05:58 PM
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Yeah and heres the kicker.

As I understand my position I can't claim, but I am damn sure that my colleague (the ceo's son) is claiming mileage!

We travel about the same distance
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Im more pis$ed off with my work - spent 3k living in hotels for 2months after I was re-located - they said they'd pay for it all, then decided they'd only pay 1800 of it - but 3months later I still havent even received that

Then on-top they never paid me a 2500 bonus I was due in March - still waiting on that one too

I keep chasing it up, but its getting silly now! So I can sort of understand how you feel mate!
Old 15 November 2006, 07:17 PM
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Ouch Peter, that hurts.
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This is naughty Simon. 2 months on emergency code is ludicrous (sp). Have you spoke to the tax office. Oh and I am sure travel expenses are tax free when you get them
Old 15 November 2006, 07:30 PM
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I have a p46 coming tomorrow so taht will sort the tax out.

I'm more interested if I can claim expenses (even if its only mileage) as you can imagine 300 miles a week makes a healthy cash back!
Old 15 November 2006, 07:35 PM
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I got underpaid the first month and then paid twice the second !
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What did they say to you at the start of your contract with them? Mileage is not an automatic right. Did you not negotiate this with them when you agreed your fees
Old 15 November 2006, 07:42 PM
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I was told I couldn't claim, however, there is naff all about it in my contract (which is stuffed anyway, as I work 2 days a week, and still get 25 days leave)

But if The CEo's son is claiming I should be able to as well.
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Originally Posted by Simon C
I was told I couldn't claim, however, there is naff all about it in my contract (which is stuffed anyway, as I work 2 days a week, and still get 25 days leave)

But if The CEo's son is claiming I should be able to as well.
That's disgraceful
Tell them how much it is costing you to get to work, and insist they pay travel expenses. They can't have one rule for one and not for another.
I'm just going to have a look at something, brb
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Acas - Resolving disputes

Have a look in here, you may get some advice.
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I'm guessing the other guy claiming is what sparked the question from HR.

Cheers I'll have a look at that link.
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Sorry I couldn't be more help. Good luck
Old 15 November 2006, 08:10 PM
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Think the answer I get back from HR will be intresting.
Old 15 November 2006, 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by 84of300
Oh and I am sure travel expenses are tax free when you get them
I think that is true m8 but only up to a certain level.....then you get taxed.

Dave
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You should try working for the NHS we've got over 400 staff owed back pay dated back to Oct 2004 and we've been told not to expect a penny of it before Christmas
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Originally Posted by 84of300
This is naughty Simon. 2 months on emergency code is ludicrous (sp). Have you spoke to the tax office. Oh and I am sure travel expenses are tax free when you get them
Travel expenses are never tax free if they are from your home to your main/regular place of employment. The only exception to this is if it's part of a relocation package; there are then certain bits you can claim tax-free up until the total relocation cost paid to you (including stamp duty, estate agents fees etc if applicable) comes to £8k.

Similarly, most companies won't pay home-office mileage if you are based in one office - unless they've relocated you or it's part of a relocation package.

Travel expenses from your base (work) location to other sites are tax free, up to a limit of something like 40p/mile for the first 4,000 miles, and then up to a lower cost/mile after that (25p? A while since it's been relevant to me). If you get underpaid on the first 4,000 miles, you can actually claim tax credit back, if you get overpaid you have to pay tax on the difference.

As to comparisons with others, if it's home-office mileage, it depends entirely on the contract/package you negotiated when joining the company. If you didn't negotiate for travel assistance and someone else did (even if helped by his dad the ceo), then that's your tough luck.
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