Mobile Phone privacy and abuse issues
15 November 2006, 11:58 AM
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Mobile Phone privacy and abuse issues
We have a problem at work with one of our drivers being constantly on his mobile phone (both personal and company).
He went off sick on Monday and out of sheer curiousity one of the other drivers decided to check the first guys company mobile. Too say he was disgusted is an understatement. On the company mobile there is hard core **** pictures and texts.
We then realised that this guy's personal phone was also at work and switched on. On investigating we have found "normal ****", "gay ****" and images of school children (in uniform).
We will be handing the company mobile to the MD tomorrow.
In the mean time what can we do about the images and what they suggest (paedophilia), that we have found on the guys personal mobile?
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He went off sick on Monday and out of sheer curiousity one of the other drivers decided to check the first guys company mobile. Too say he was disgusted is an understatement. On the company mobile there is hard core **** pictures and texts.
We then realised that this guy's personal phone was also at work and switched on. On investigating we have found "normal ****", "gay ****" and images of school children (in uniform).
We will be handing the company mobile to the MD tomorrow.
In the mean time what can we do about the images and what they suggest (paedophilia), that we have found on the guys personal mobile?
Thanks
15 November 2006, 12:10 PM
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He should be suspended on full pay pending a full investigation by the police, your HR department cannot sack him untill they he is convicted of breaking the law using company property.
If there is a company policing on the 'misuse' of comapny phones they can follow their documented disciplinery procedures, but.....
If he is sacked on the basis you've assumed it was him downloading all the **** he can (and will) take you to court for wrong dismissal, and he'll win as well, as the only people that can prove this is the police and in a court of law.
Lets face it others have had access to the phones as well, so you can't be 100% sure who's done what and when!
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If there is a company policing on the 'misuse' of comapny phones they can follow their documented disciplinery procedures, but.....
If he is sacked on the basis you've assumed it was him downloading all the **** he can (and will) take you to court for wrong dismissal, and he'll win as well, as the only people that can prove this is the police and in a court of law.
Lets face it others have had access to the phones as well, so you can't be 100% sure who's done what and when!
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15 November 2006, 12:11 PM
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Dont know about his personal phone as you might not have the right to access this, but Co. phone to the police asap. and immediate suspension while under investigation, if your Co. requires him to interact with the public and you continue to allow this you could be in a sh1tstorm here.
You know it the right thing to do ASAP.
Regular ****, not right on work phone!! Gay **** also, but kiddie **** is a criminal offence!!!!!!!
You know it the right thing to do ASAP.
Regular ****, not right on work phone!! Gay **** also, but kiddie **** is a criminal offence!!!!!!!
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15 November 2006, 12:26 PM
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Depending how the stuff got onto the phones I expect it would be pretty difficult to prove that he downloaded them due to other people having had access to the phones. However if he's into that stuff chances are he'll have a lot more of it on his home PC which the Police may look into.
15 November 2006, 12:58 PM
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"He went off sick on Monday and out of sheer curiousity one of the other drivers decided to check the first guys company mobile. Too say he was disgusted is an understatement. On the company mobile there is hard core **** pictures and texts."
The above should qualify the guy for gross misconduct anyhow.
As for the type of images i would suggest the Police take a look if you are at all concerned.
The above should qualify the guy for gross misconduct anyhow.
As for the type of images i would suggest the Police take a look if you are at all concerned.
15 November 2006, 01:01 PM
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I was going to say that!!!
I've got pictures of my kids in school uniform on my work PC as well!!!! Is that bad?????
Come to think of it, there are pictures of other kids on there too. I take lots of pictures of lots of things, they all end up on my work PC.
I've got pictures of my kids in school uniform on my work PC as well!!!! Is that bad?????
Come to think of it, there are pictures of other kids on there too. I take lots of pictures of lots of things, they all end up on my work PC.
15 November 2006, 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Norman D. Landing
Erm, has he got kids that might be of school age ............... ?
15 November 2006, 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Freak
His own kids in uniform perhaps?
15 November 2006, 02:18 PM
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If the children are in a uniform, im sorry but the police wont do anything about, it, not one thing its not agaisnt the law, now if they were in a state of undress etc diffrent matter alltogether.
Ok so this dude has **** on his work phone, stop been prudish about it, i bet half the guys on here do aswell.
Ok so this dude has **** on his work phone, stop been prudish about it, i bet half the guys on here do aswell.
15 November 2006, 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Miss Kinky
its just very strange that he would have innocent pictures of children on a phone that has nothing else other than **** on it...
How many 'normal' blokes works phones do you think will have the odd **** vid on them? Bluetooth is a wonderful thing.
My god, I've just realised that I've got pics of my 3yr old twins naked in a bath on my works phone..............and works laptop! Oh shi ...
PS Deffo ribbing for the gay **** though!
PPS WTF were you doing 'investigating' his personal phone? Would you have 'investigated' his wallet/diaryjacket pockets?
15 November 2006, 02:22 PM
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Lol its probably his kids man, so what the fella likes to rub one out to ****, it dont make him a monster does it, you sound far to jobsworth to me.
As i said above if the children are full y clothed probably his kids, anyway but he has done no wrong.
As i said above if the children are full y clothed probably his kids, anyway but he has done no wrong.
15 November 2006, 02:22 PM
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I'm just trying to think of any valid reason (curiosity is an excuse, not a valid reason) for checking either of the phones. If you had suspicions there should be procedures to follow to investigate those suspicions. But to allow on a whim someone to access the phone, without the individual being present, and then to interrogate the individuals personal property in secret also........
Regardless of what was found the other driver should also be investigated for his behaviour, and the company should take some very competent legal advice on how to proceed, without getting their asses sued off them.
Regardless of what was found the other driver should also be investigated for his behaviour, and the company should take some very competent legal advice on how to proceed, without getting their asses sued off them.
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15 November 2006, 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Reffro
I'm just thinking of any valid reason for checking either of the phones. If you had suspicions there should be procedures to follow to investigate those suspicions. But to allow on a whim someone to access the phone, without the individual being present, and then to interogate the individuals personal property in secret also........
Regardless of what was found the other driver should also be investigated for his behaviour, and the company should take some very competent legal advice on how to proceed, without getting their asses sued off them.
Regardless of what was found the other driver should also be investigated for his behaviour, and the company should take some very competent legal advice on how to proceed, without getting their asses sued off them.
15 November 2006, 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Miss Kinky
its just very strange that he would have innocent pictures of children on a phone that has nothing else other than **** on it...
By your logic, my laptop has **** on, but also pictures of my cat.
Does that automatically mean I am into bestiality?
15 November 2006, 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Freak
Well no not really.
By your logic, my laptop has **** on, but also pictures of my cat.
Does that automatically mean I am into bestiality?
By your logic, my laptop has **** on, but also pictures of my cat.
Does that automatically mean I am into bestiality?
15 November 2006, 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Freak
Well no not really.
By your logic, my laptop has **** on, but also pictures of my cat.
Does that automatically mean I am into bestiality?
By your logic, my laptop has **** on, but also pictures of my cat.
Does that automatically mean I am into bestiality?
15 November 2006, 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Freak
Well no not really.
By your logic, my laptop has **** on, but also pictures of my cat.
Does that automatically mean I am into bestiality?
By your logic, my laptop has **** on, but also pictures of my cat.
Does that automatically mean I am into bestiality?
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15 November 2006, 03:33 PM
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i didn't go through his phone, one of the other driver's did.
the guy with the **** on his phone has been constantly texting and making and receiving calls on at least 3 mobile phones during work time for the last 6 weeks or so. he has done virtually no work and it has caused some major issues in the workshop, with the other drivers having to cover and do extra work. we are currently between depot managers and this person is taking advantage of the situation.
this is why one of them picked up the company mobile in the first place.
the **** in question is fairly disgusting and i certainly couldn't give details on here
the guy with the **** on his phone has been constantly texting and making and receiving calls on at least 3 mobile phones during work time for the last 6 weeks or so. he has done virtually no work and it has caused some major issues in the workshop, with the other drivers having to cover and do extra work. we are currently between depot managers and this person is taking advantage of the situation.
this is why one of them picked up the company mobile in the first place.
the **** in question is fairly disgusting and i certainly couldn't give details on here
15 November 2006, 03:36 PM
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I think you should keep what you've done to yourself, then make sure he is escorted and offered a representive as a witness while his phone is checked while he is in view of it.
