well i have sacked a friend twice for poor time keeping, well not poor but 1/2 days off every other week . i have taken him back for a third time and said there is no exceptions on time off well only the 1st week back and he has had a day off as usual a txt 5 mins before i pick him up!!! i should really tell him its over !! but since its a friend should i give him one last chance ???? just to give a more realistic view i stareted him back this january and he has only had 3 full weeks in and it was the year before that i sacked him 1st for ahving time off its just its a freind and its really strange even if he is taking the pi55

 

have a word with him about it. Explain to him that if he continues to do this to you it will leave you with no option to sack him. That way if it happens again you know what to do. Also point out that its only because he`s a mate that you`re giving him this one last chance

 

This is why you shouldn't employ your friends or family.

He obviously has no respect for you, tell him to eff off.

 

Other him a good reference as a good will gesture!

 

He is taking the pish mate because your his friend,Simple as.I would have a quiet word with him,explain that you think he is taking the mick,as he is your mate.
Tell him you have sacked him once and you have no hesitation about sacking him again.If he is a true mate, your friendship will not be harmed in anyway.

 

thats the trouble i have sacked him twice!! if i do it again its 3rd time unlucky

 

I'd say he's taking advantage of the situation Steve, unless he has sick family or something... in which case it's a different storey...... but if it's just him being lazy or having days off for no reason, give him the elbow..... if it was you taking time off if he employed you, d'you think he'd be so leniant...??

 

we have done all that the begining of this year !!! its nothing like that as thats what made sacking him a 2nd time hard

 

Is what he does critical to the business? If so and the business is suffering then yes sack him. Why should you suffer because he can't get into work (provided there is no legitimate reason for absence)

If not and it is a more casual job then just pay him for the time he is there. I am sure that when he gets a pay packet that has a good few quid missing he will question it and you have the answers. If he needs the cash then he has to work for it. Offer an 80% hourly rate with the rest paid if there is no absence then if he decides he can't be arsed one friday he would be losing more than just the days wage. It seems to work for the casual staff I sometimes use.

 

Show him who is boss Steve, a text message is not acceptable as a way of saying you are not going to be available for work.

I am currently on the sick due to a knee injury which prevents me from doing my job.I am starting back to work on Monday after a month off.Apart from that i have had 4 days in the last 6 years off from work.

I always ring in at 7am to let my boss know that im not going to be in,even though im signed off from the doctors.

If it half a day here and there deduct it from his holiday entitlment(sp)

Mick

 

Have to say that he is not doing your company and more importantly you any favours. You are the one that will take the hit for him so you have to evaluate at what point it becomes untenable.

Me? Well, he would not be there.

 

Sounds like he is taking advanatge of your friendship. He has been extremely lucky that you have taken him back twice - he obviously has not learnt from his errors, and has little or no respect for you, your company or your clients.

Friend or no friend, he has had his chances. Tell him honestly why you cannot all this to continue, and say it has nothing to do with the friendship, but he is not behaving professionally.

 

i always take the ****3 when boss's i contract to say " is he off again" seriously this year he only has had 3 weeks without a day off and thats not consecutive !!

 

you don't have to sack him, he's sacking himself with that attitude and behaviour. Did you give him the impression the job was come and go as he pleased? I'm sure you didn't. I'm sure you've laid the ground rules, twice now! He's taking the ****, thinking his "mate" wont sack him for his tardiness and downright rudeness. SACK HIM. END OF. Get someone in who actually wants the job.

 

dont even know why you're posting this, if you are not smart enough to see the answer you are not bright enough to have a business

 

Mods can we not have a w@nker smiley.

 

employ a freind you really like then see how you get

 

managers should never employ freinds as it often brings complications in the process .... if your going to sack him then just bare this in mind .... employment law !! and go through the proper proceedure of dismissing him ... or you could find yourself in court and loosing a lot of money

 

Yep, must be tough. You've sacked him twice so he must know its a problem!

Bin 'im !

 

Sickness and poor attendance would never get near an industrial tribuneral.

 

what a muppet !!! it has nothing to do with procedure if you read the thread !!! its should i bin a friend ?? i can get out of all this ****e you say in seconds !!! its just do i want to ??? read the thread numptie

 

steve i have a new way of doing things, as you know i have just had to get rid of somebody, i had high hopes for him, but he let me down, a few niggly things, then a big massive "im closing up 3 hours early because i think i can get away with it"

what i find is that i try to find excuses for these people, as if i owe them something, 2 nights back i could not get much sleep, going over in my mind what i was going to do with him, why should i feel like this???

at the end of the day you are there to make cash, not supply numptys with work, i have let a lot of things slide with my lads in the past, one of them i would consider a "mate" he was always going out and getting cabbaged on a friday night even tho he was due in on a sat, he would be late, not turn in, i over looked it and ended up ****ing off the work i was paying ****loads of advertising for in the first place.

so i sacked him asap, yes i felt like a ****, especially when he looked like he might cry, but its not my problem,he had been warned in the previous weeks about other things, so he should have known. but it fell on deaf ears.

you dont owe them anything steve, you might feel like you do, but they dont see it like that, otherwise they would not **** you about, i had a long term mate "crazy john" start for me, i thought he was the answer to my prayers, and old school mate i had known for 10 years, always been a car valeter, kept getting sacked from other places, but as i knew him well (or i thought i did) i figured he would not mess me about, i warned him when he started that any messing about and he was out the door.

gave him a few weekends trial, we spoke about fulltime, i was all up for it, he was fine, there was cash missing from the till (that is me making excuses for them again etc etc)but i put that down to him not knowing the buttons correctly on the carwash, one weekend he never turned in, his mam rang me saying he was sick and had been for days, i knew it was lies, as somebody else in his town had been speaking to him the day before, he was sacked as soon as i next spoke to him.

 

cheers micky, i think i have made my mind up ???