unclebuck

Clearly not IMO especially as the only reason for them being 'unable' to have children is because of their politically correct 'lifestyle' choices.

At 3K a pop this is a complete waste of taxpayers' money and in the light of this news -

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/5275932.stm

a completely unacceptable (mis)use of resources.

GaryK

Yes I dont believe its right for a child to be brought up in a single sex 'family', its not the norm, so all you fudge packers and lettuce lickers....do one!

OllyK

IMHO IVF should be a private treatment period.

scooby_me

iTrader: (1)

well at the end of the day its each to there own.... if they can offer a secure home and financialy support a child then WHY NOT?....

opinions are like ********.... everyone (including lesbiebs and gays) has one...

OllyK

Indeed and a good indication of having the financial wherewithal would be to stump up the £3K for the treatment!

Iwan

No, **** them. If they want kids they should try not being dykes for starters.

Vapid

Of course it's acceptable which would you prefer bringing up baby,

this pair of hotties




or this fat scummy old ******


Men who don't like red hot lezzers are most probably perverts for young boys.

Karl 227

*Copies, prints, laminates*

BRB

unclebuck

That's a different issue. The issue here is should Taxpayers' money be used to provide them with treatment that is completely unnecessary while our elderly folk in hospitals don't even get the most basic help in getting fed.

scooby_me

iTrader: (1)

i AGREE "IF" they can afford it then NO taxpayers should not pay....but if they dont have the financial backing to find 3k doesnt mean they cannot support a child from day to day... i think if most of us needed to find 3k it wouldnt be "THAT" easy.....

i dont think sexual preference has anything to do with it.... IF you can afford it YOU PAY.......if you cant YOU DONT....simple

IMHO obviously

OllyK

If having a child is that important then start getting used to the sacrifices you'll need to make and save up the £3000. If you can't find that in 12 months, you can't afford a child.

I'm not worried about the sexual orientation, just about paying more taxes to support other people's whims and that real needy cases may lose out as a result.

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1) RTM'd for inflamatory terms

2) No one should be allowed free IVF on the NHS

3) Your continued preoccupation with sexual orientation is quite telling.

unclebuck

Not as telling as this statistic

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/5297916.stm

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No surprise really with people like you as "our" neighbours.

scooby_me

iTrader: (1)

at the end of the day its each to there own.

just live and let live..

ducking into the shaddows till the flaming stop!!!!!!!!!!

Darren

OllyK

That's exactly how it should be, you want kids, you sort it out. The welfare state should be there as the exception not the rule.

555Rob555

3 Grand a pop!! I'd do an insemination service for 2k all in.

Even the munters.

Vapid

Nobody wants defective genetic material though so that's out of the question.

EVOLUTION

Personally, i dont think any kind of IVF should be allowed on the national health in present times.

I feel for the people needing it, but, not being able to have a child is life threatening. Now, that said, it was on the news some time last week, a new cancer drug has come out, and will NOT be allowed on the NHS.

Now, why is this ok to do. Life saving drugs people will have to pay for, life creating, is free to many people.

Personally, i dont see how this is fair TBH, if there was a surplus of cash to be spent, then fine, by all means, allow the IVF, but there isnt and there are people all over the country dying as they cant afford to buy the medication required

not something im that UP on really, but if you had private healthcare, would you be able to get the cancer drugs on there??? and would you be able to get IVF on that also, my guess is no to the latter......



John

555Rob555

Are you suggesting lesbians are geneticly defective?

scooby_me

iTrader: (1)

its so easy to get you lot going!...

i DO agree that its absolutly pehetic that some drugs that could save lives are not available on the NHS.

a lot of areas have no budget to help these cancer sufferers but have money to spend on statues and the such,....NOW THATS WRONG!.

i think if there is potential that being supplied a drug would save your life the local health authority should not be allowed to deny treatment.

:-)

Hanslow

I personally think they should throw away IVF completely. Too many people in the world already. Nature's way of stopping the population increase and man's way of interfering and carrying it on. If you can't have kids, tough, that's the way you're made. Why can't some people just accept that they can't have kids?

unclebuck

It seems obvious that if they can't afford the £3000 then they are simply not in a position to have a dependant child.

No doubt part of the overall plan will be to claim benefits, housing etc once they have been given the child.

The whole thing is ridiculous and these bloody selfish people are nothing more than parasites.

scooby_me

iTrader: (1)

Nice unbias comment there....

so everybody who seekd IVF on the NHS is a scummy dole dosser???????????????????????????????????????????? ???????

scooby_me

iTrader: (1)

wow we have our very own forum diplomat........

some ppl cant have kids for all sorts of reasons... maybe a car accident, illness or whatever.....

scooby_me

iTrader: (1)

oh BTW i am on half day today and sat at home with nowt to do.....

CAN YOU TELL...... :-)

OllyK

It's unlikely private health insurance such as BUPA would pay for either, you can however pay for IVF or drugs not available on the NHS privately, it's just you stump up the cash yourself.

unclebuck

No, just the lezzers who 'can't' have children for no other reason than their lifestyle choice. As someone else said , they have made their life choices and so should have to live with the consequences, one of which is to forfeit the right to be parents.

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Agreed UB.

The fact they are lesbian, however, should not be the main point of your post (which it clearly is)

lozgti

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