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Old 07 August 2006, 09:01 PM
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Miss Speye has just reurned to work after a fortnights break, she works in a local shop in the area.Four years at uni,and she is working in a shop.

Well the owner says she is not entitled to take her next two weeks holiday,in 3 weeks time unless she actually goes away.Because it causes to much hassle,as we are still undicided about going away he keeps asking if we are going away/.If we go away and she takes 2 weeks hols he wants proof when/where she is going

She does not have a contract and the boss keeps making silly little rules up all the time.

His last one was you are only allowed to take 1 break a day(12 hour shift) untill Miss Speye showed him working regulations and break times during shifts

Iknow he is in the wrong on this one

Any help,advise will be helpfull

Mick
Old 07 August 2006, 09:05 PM
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It's none of his business whether she goes away or not. And as for proof, I think not
Old 07 August 2006, 09:05 PM
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You are entitled to a minimum of 21 days holiday plus statutary (sp?) if full time IIRC BUT you cannot dictate when you take your holidays i.e. if you ask to take your holiday at a certain time, your employer can refuse.
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Check this link out
http://www.is4profit.com/busadvice/w...ing_time07.htm
This applies to full or part time.
Re breaks if works 6 hrs 20 min break due.
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Originally Posted by NotoriousREV
You are entitled to a minimum of 21 days holiday plus statutary (sp?) if full time IIRC BUT you cannot dictate when you take your holidays i.e. if you ask to take your holiday at a certain time, your employer can refuse.
That was another of his rules ,he said she was not entitled to 21 days. Soon showed him wrong, when i showed him some material i downloaded off the web.
Old 07 August 2006, 09:23 PM
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I know that noone on here likes government interference, but without it bad employers could get away with the above with no comeback.
Also we would probably still have 8 & 9 yrs olds working in factories.
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Also we would probably still have 8 & 9 yrs olds working in factories.
... and I'd be able to get my chimney swept for 50p and a fistfull of blackjack chews instead of paying a 'qualified soot technician' to do the job. Bloody labour government.

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Originally Posted by Sauron
Check this link out
http://www.is4profit.com/busadvice/w...ing_time07.htm
This applies to full or part time.
Re breaks if works 6 hrs 20 min break due.

Cheers..
Old 07 August 2006, 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by NotoriousREV
You are entitled to a minimum of 21 days holiday plus statutary (sp?) if full time IIRC BUT you cannot dictate when you take your holidays i.e. if you ask to take your holiday at a certain time, your employer can refuse.

Are you 100% sure????

I get 21 days including Statutary holidays!!!!
Old 07 August 2006, 09:48 PM
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Ah, just checked and it's 20 days which may or may not include national holidays.
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Originally Posted by NotoriousREV
Ah, just checked and it's 20 days which may or may not include national holidays.
It is at the employers discretion, but most businesses give 4 weeks minimum, plus bank holidays. At least the ones I know do
The law states a minimum of 4 weeks
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Originally Posted by 84of300
It is at the employers discretion, but most businesses give 4 weeks minimum, plus bank holidays. At least the ones I know do
The law states a minimum of 4 weeks
I personally get 25 days a year not including Bank hols.

Idid have to get Special permision to take 4 weeks hols last year,and my employer thought it was ok.Idid give him 11 months notice tho.
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Yep, and I think you'll find (as above) holiday can only be taken at managers discretion (i.e when business dictates); however saying that there has to be give and take.

Do you think it's got anything to do with your wife just having had 2 weeks off, and now wants another 2 weeks at what could be construde as fairly short notice? Some managers are funny like that..

Dependent on what info/advice is given here, I'd give the CAB a quick buzz in the morning and ask their advice.

I get 30 days + bank holidays. They generally prefer 2 weeks+ notice, but are quite flexible dependent on staffing levels etc. For longer holidays we need to give at least a months notice.
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Originally Posted by speye91
I personally get 25 days a year not including Bank hols.

Idid have to get Special permision to take 4 weeks hols last year,and my employer thought it was ok.Idid give him 11 months notice tho.
I take 6 weeks plus bank holidays
Self employment has it's advantages
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Originally Posted by 84of300
I take 6 weeks plus bank holidays
Self employment has it's advantages
V nice..
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Originally Posted by 84of300
I take 6 weeks plus bank holidays
Self employment has it's advantages
So does working for a nice company
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Originally Posted by little-ginge
Yep, and I think you'll find (as above) holiday can only be taken at managers discretion (i.e when business dictates); however saying that there has to be give and take.

Do you think it's got anything to do with your wife just having had 2 weeks off, and now wants another 2 weeks at what could be construde as fairly short notice? Some managers are funny like that..

Dependent on what info/advice is given here, I'd give the CAB a quick buzz in the morning and ask their advice.

I get 30 days + bank holidays. They generally prefer 2 weeks+ notice, but are quite flexible dependent on staffing levels etc. For longer holidays we need to give at least a months notice.
Miss Speye's next two weeks Hols have been booked in for 3 months,so i don't think it is that short notice.
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Originally Posted by speye91
Miss Speye's next two weeks Hols have been booked in for 3 months,so i don't think it is that short notice.
Well it can't be that then

If it is already booked in, surely the manager hasn't got a leg to stand on??? And whether she goes away abroad, in this country or simply stays at home for that time, is nobodys business but hers!!! Phone CAB
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Originally Posted by little-ginge
So does working for a nice company
I work for 9 nice companies
Like my family they are
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Originally Posted by 84of300
I work for 9 nice companies
Like my family they are
I only work for one. 25 days hols, increased to 30 after 5 years service
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Stand your ground on this one, he is just being pedantic
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Originally Posted by NotoriousREV
Ah, just checked and it's 20 days which may or may not include national holidays.
i was siting here thinking i had ripped off the lads by one day each


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Originally Posted by little-ginge
I only work for one. 25 days hols, increased to 30 after 5 years service
Christmas is good
Old 07 August 2006, 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by 84of300
Christmas is good
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Cheers for the help so far Guys n Gals
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Originally Posted by little-ginge
9 Christmas parties
sorry, gone a bit off track
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Your friends employer sounds like a right idiot.
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Originally Posted by 84of300
9 Christmas parties
sorry, gone a bit off track
Thats what I thought - and that you'd gone off track
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Originally Posted by matty01
Your friends

Do you mean,my friend Miss Speye
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Originally Posted by Sauron
I know that noone on here likes government interference, but without it bad employers could get away with the above with no comeback.
Also we would probably still have 8 & 9 yrs olds working in factories.
The Tories would take us back to those dark days .... mark my words!!

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