Labour Carbon Cap on Private Households
17 July 2006, 02:33 AM
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Labour Carbon Cap on Private Households
Read this of yet another crazy NL plan.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.../ixuknews.html
How the hell do they suppose that this will work? Will they make allowances for the particular weather conditions where you live? Like hell they will.
We will all end up paying more for less. And freezing in winter to boot.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.../ixuknews.html
How the hell do they suppose that this will work? Will they make allowances for the particular weather conditions where you live? Like hell they will.
We will all end up paying more for less. And freezing in winter to boot.
17 July 2006, 12:45 PM
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Carbon emmisions, what a load of old crap, all that fannying about with meters, sorting our rubbish into several different compartments, then a bloody 737 screams overhead carying a load of people paying 2.99 each to go to London or 5.99 to go to their place in Malaga belching out more Carbon than anything, repeat 30 times an hour for 18 hours and see how much Carbon is produced compared to heating a moderate house. The air travel thing is not sustainable and we now are relying on it, does make you wonder what they will run an A380 on when the oil runs out, thats a lot of biodiesel !
Dont know why the government still bother letting us have wages whilst they keep taking it back in one form or another.
Build the Nuclear plants, throw up some turbines so we dont have to rely on unstable Middle Easter regions or greedy Russians/Easters Europeans who keep sticking the gas price up.
I still dont understand how we get bombarded with energy all day yet still have to rely on dragging oil, gas and coal out of the ground, its windy every day, the tides flow every day, we get hit by sun every day (bit dicey the last one), the enrgy demands arent going to go away so why not use the last of the fossil stuff to ensure that we have enough energy in the future by building more renewables, I suspect its the path of least resistance here, its jus easier to drag oil out of the ground and burn that rather than putting any effort into harnessing other sources.
Its funny how people get all sniffy about wind farms ruining the countryside, turn off the power for a few days, no Emmerdale, Corrie and Eastenders and they would be out their knocking their own up !
Dont know why the government still bother letting us have wages whilst they keep taking it back in one form or another.
Build the Nuclear plants, throw up some turbines so we dont have to rely on unstable Middle Easter regions or greedy Russians/Easters Europeans who keep sticking the gas price up.
I still dont understand how we get bombarded with energy all day yet still have to rely on dragging oil, gas and coal out of the ground, its windy every day, the tides flow every day, we get hit by sun every day (bit dicey the last one), the enrgy demands arent going to go away so why not use the last of the fossil stuff to ensure that we have enough energy in the future by building more renewables, I suspect its the path of least resistance here, its jus easier to drag oil out of the ground and burn that rather than putting any effort into harnessing other sources.
Its funny how people get all sniffy about wind farms ruining the countryside, turn off the power for a few days, no Emmerdale, Corrie and Eastenders and they would be out their knocking their own up !
17 July 2006, 12:57 PM
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J4CKO,
The problem is the Nuclear and renewable techology is very expensive, windfarms and tidal systems especially can be environmentally damaging.
So either the Government pays for it and we increase taxes or the private sector pays for it and we get increased fuel bills.
Either way isn't pleasant but as technology improves the prices should come down but that is perhaps decades away.
Cheers
Lee
The problem is the Nuclear and renewable techology is very expensive, windfarms and tidal systems especially can be environmentally damaging.
So either the Government pays for it and we increase taxes or the private sector pays for it and we get increased fuel bills.
Either way isn't pleasant but as technology improves the prices should come down but that is perhaps decades away.
Cheers
Lee
17 July 2006, 01:14 PM
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Carbon emmisions, what a load of old crap, all that fannying about with meters, sorting our rubbish into several different compartments, then a bloody 737 screams overhead carying a load of people paying 2.99 each to go to London or 5.99 to go to their place in Malaga belching out more Carbon than anything, repeat 30 times an hour for 18 hours and see how much Carbon is produced compared to heating a moderate house.
17 July 2006, 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by logiclee
J4CKO,
The problem is the Nuclear and renewable techology is very expensive, windfarms and tidal systems especially can be environmentally damaging.
So either the Government pays for it and we increase taxes or the private sector pays for it and we get increased fuel bills.
Either way isn't pleasant but as technology improves the prices should come down but that is perhaps decades away.
Cheers
Lee
The problem is the Nuclear and renewable techology is very expensive, windfarms and tidal systems especially can be environmentally damaging.
So either the Government pays for it and we increase taxes or the private sector pays for it and we get increased fuel bills.
Either way isn't pleasant but as technology improves the prices should come down but that is perhaps decades away.
Cheers
Lee
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17 July 2006, 01:22 PM
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I wonder how much methane you could extract from a family sized septic tank?
I also wonder how easy it is to make solar-electric cells as roof tiles (I know companies are already doing this, but considering for is a bit of glass and silicone which eminates from sand, its currently far to overpriced for a simplistic technology). Obviously the need for a battery bank of at least large lead/acid batteries would be equally as harmful to the environment. The alternative of letting energy suppliers to buy back any generated energy currently looks like a rip off.
I also wonder how easy it is to make solar-electric cells as roof tiles (I know companies are already doing this, but considering for is a bit of glass and silicone which eminates from sand, its currently far to overpriced for a simplistic technology). Obviously the need for a battery bank of at least large lead/acid batteries would be equally as harmful to the environment. The alternative of letting energy suppliers to buy back any generated energy currently looks like a rip off.
17 July 2006, 01:35 PM
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Just been looking into the pros and cons of using a company car. The tax is all calculated on CO2 emmissions now. Bloody complex. Don't think I'll bother. A nice new car to drive around in would be 
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17 July 2006, 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by SD
Lee - I'm looking to build my next house in the next few years and will aim to make it as self sufficient as possible from and energy and water point of view. Not to appease the greenies though, just for the sake of my own pocket...!
17 July 2006, 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by SD
Lee - I'm looking to build my next house in the next few years and will aim to make it as self sufficient as possible from and energy and water point of view. Not to appease the greenies though, just for the sake of my own pocket...!
Cheers
Lee
17 July 2006, 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Energy Review
The Government wishes to incentivise energy suppliers to engage more actively with customers in order to deliver greater energy efficiency in the home … We want to provide the right stimulus for them to develop new market opportunities to sell energy services, rather than just energy per se, so what the consumer buys are services for heating, lighting and powering their homes, in the most energy-efficient way practicable.
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