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Old 27 June 2006, 02:58 PM
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As my sport has a hill holder cluch, which got me thinking, what other cars (as well other manufactures) have such a thing other than the Subaru Imprezas' non-turbo?

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Old 27 June 2006, 03:11 PM
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Manual transmission Legacy. Manual transmission Forester. I think that's it.
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Thanks. Do any other manufacture do this or is it a subaru thing - farmers?
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Manual transmission Legacy. Manual transmission Forester. I think that's it.
Old 27 June 2006, 03:20 PM
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I've never heard of it on any other car. Could be wrong though.
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me neither, that why I just wanted to ask.
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I've never heard of it on any other car. Could be wrong though.
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So how do they work?
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When the car is stationary and on an uphill slope, if you are stopped in gear and touch the brake pedal then as long as you have your foot on the clutch you don't need to apply the handbrake and don't need to keep your foot on the brake. The car won't move until you either press the accelerator or lift the clutch.

It doesn't do this by slipping the clutch but by applying the brakes to (I think) 2 wheels.

It works on the slightest slope.

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...you can also be out of gear with the cluch still depressed and the hill holder clutch will still be working
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Originally Posted by SC008Y_MAD
As my sport has a hill holder cluch, which got me thinking, what other cars (as well other manufactures) have such a thing other than the Subaru Imprezas' non-turbo?

Cheers

Darren
i dont use mine much as its a bit dangerouse when you pull away
have you found this darren? Hollywell Hill In St Albans is a killer
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It's only dangerous when you pull away if it's not adjusted correctly Sarah.

Assuming by dangerous you mean that you roll back as you let the clutch up but before it bites...

Nothing to do with the accelerator Douglas.
It works purely with the clutch arm (cable driven)

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Cheers, Andy.

I wasn't 100% sure, but as moving off uphill from a standstill involves both accelerator and clutch I thought I should mention both. I haven't tried just lifting the clutch when the I'm on a 10% slope with a truck inches from the back bumper.....
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The wife's Smart Pulse has a hill holder.... We live on a slight hill and as my Saab doesn't it catches me out everytime
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Originally Posted by douglasb
Cheers, Andy.

I wasn't 100% sure, but as moving off uphill from a standstill involves both accelerator and clutch I thought I should mention both. I haven't tried just lifting the clutch when the I'm on a 10% slope with a truck inches from the back bumper.....
can you run me through the correct way to pull away if you have this hill thing on, in think ive been doing it wrong
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When you stop on an uphill slope put the car in first gear, press the brake and clutch pedals. You can then take your foot off the brake and just keep your left foot on the clutch. You don't need to use the handbrake; the car will just sort everything out and you won't roll back.

When you want to move off you just press the accelerator and lift the clutch. Just imagine that you're on a flat road and are pulling away normally. It works!

(Can't help thinking that it must be ******** the release bearing, though).

Edit - Disclaimer - If sara tries this tomorrow and (a) doesn't check if there's anything behind her at the time and runs back into it, (b) gets the clutch biting point wrong and runs into something in front of her, (c) burns out any parts of her clutch, (d) generally has any other problems, then she screwed up, not me

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Originally Posted by douglasb
When you stop on an uphill slope put the car in first gear, press the brake and clutch pedals. You can then take your foot off the brake and just keep your left foot on the clutch. You don't need to use the handbrake; the car will just sort everything out and you won't roll back.

When you want to move off you just press the accelerator and lift the clutch. Just imagine that you're on a flat road and are pulling away normally. It works!

(Can't help thinking that it must be ******** the release bearing, though).
i will try it tomorrow. you should ad a disclaimer to your post
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Originally Posted by Miles
The wife's Smart Pulse has a hill holder
That's called an 'arm out of the door'
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It's got central locking too - you can reach all the doors from the driver's seat.
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Originally Posted by douglasb
It's got central locking too - you can reach all the doors from the driver's seat.
That's 'tongue activated' locking, apparently.
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Originally Posted by douglasb
It's got central locking too - you can reach all the doors from the driver's seat.
not if the window is up
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No I have not found this sara, I have great clutch control
Mine moves back about 2mm before I had the clutch adjusted yesterday at ZEN as it was set really Hi. How it is a little lower, so i'll have to try it again.

Originally Posted by sarasquares
i dont use mine much as its a bit dangerouse when you pull away
have you found this darren? Hollywell Hill In St Albans is a killer

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