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Old 11 January 2001, 10:07 PM
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Have you checked to make sure the AGP card is firmly seated in the slot? Try removing it and re-inserting it cos I've seen machines behave like this in the past.AGP cards are very sensitive when it comes to how they are seated.Worth a try before you return it?

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P.S: I assume the latest AMD processors are socket A.They'll only go in one way!

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Shaun,

More stuff to look at:

http://www.ati.com/na/pages/faq/radeon8500_faq.html#11

Apparantly, you may need to do something with your motherboard, software wise ? Don't ask me though as I do not do much hardware stuff.

Cheers

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Old 01 November 2001, 06:00 PM
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After recently purchasing a Radeon 64mb DDR 8500 graphics card, I took the plunge today and bought a decent set of guts to go with it.

AMD XP 1800+ processor.
Gigabyte Motherboard.
IBM 60gb 7200rpm 2mb cache Hard drive.
512 DDR memory.

Slapped it all together...............and it don't work!!!! Arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!

No video display what so ever. Tried another AGP video card, and still no joy!!!

Anybody got any suggestion, before I take it all back tomorrow.

Stupid question..........which way does the processor go in???

Shaun.
Old 01 November 2001, 06:05 PM
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Seriously...what a bummer its not working..You not getting anything when you boot? No BIOS error beeps, lights? are the fans spinning?
Old 01 November 2001, 06:27 PM
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put dos on boot floppy and upgrade the mobo bios to latest version.
Old 01 November 2001, 06:35 PM
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The machine powers up, hard drive & floppy initialises.

No point in making a DOS Boot disk......I can't see anything even if it does boot!

???????????????????????????????????????

The only thing I can think is that the AGP port is knackered???



Old 01 November 2001, 06:37 PM
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The monitor even goes into standby mode. It will power initially and then go into standy mode.

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Check if the mainboard needs any jumpers changed.
Pull out everything, all cards (except video), drives etc, boot that- if you still get no screen either the chip, board, or memory could be your problem..
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Tried all that mate...........

Sounds like i'm beating me head against a brickwall.

Oh well..........the tramps will have me on there doorstep in the morning!!!!!

Old 01 November 2001, 11:58 PM
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check bios settings

on gigabyte - think there is one called PCI palette snoop - set this to disable.

i once had this very problem with a voodoo 5 PCI coard (turned out it required a power connector to the board!!! and guess who didn't read the destructions!)

goto www.gigabyte.com.tw (i think) for bios downloads.

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its not an old monitor is it?? you havent caught your brightness controls?? I did this once and spent ages with the same symptoms...

Try a pci graphics card if you have one...

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Old 02 November 2001, 07:57 AM
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Remove all other PCI cards, disable sound chip in BIOS if there is one, try with just one memory chip if you have several.
Do you hear the disk and fans turning?
Are there any beeps coming from the onboard speaker? (plug it to the mainboard if it isn't)

Apart from that, last idea would be to bring everything back to the shop and tell them to call you back when all that crap is booting properly.

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Old 02 November 2001, 08:49 AM
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Get a cheap PCI graphics card for a fiver from your local Computer Exchange. See if it works.

You did fit the heat sink on the processor correctly, didn't you?
Old 02 November 2001, 08:52 AM
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I'd be guessing that with that little setup you'll need a pretty good power supply 300 watts miminum probably 350. Some AGP cards can be sensitive to low voltages.
Old 02 November 2001, 11:07 AM
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as above re power supply
Old 02 November 2001, 11:58 AM
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I seem to remember that some AGP cards need a 'special' AGP socket that supplies extra power.

When I was ordering one of my work machines from Dell, they made it clear that only a few of their machines supported some of the high end graphics cards as they had huge power requirements.

I seem to remember that the Quaddro2 card I had fitted required an "AGP Pro" socket ? Something to do with the card drawing something daft like 50 watts on full chat.

Sorry for the vauge details.

Cheers

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Shaun,

No doubt this is too late as you most probably have already RMA'd you motherboard. But next time, make sure you connect your Internal PC Case speaker to the motherboard. Every motherbaord will send out a coded beep if there is a failure on power-up. ie Graphics card problem. To identify the beep all you need to do is refer to your motherboard’s manaul. It makes troubleshooting so much easier

HTH

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I'm being lazy and not reading all the original posts so apologies if this has already been mentioned!

Make sure the speaker is connected. Remove the RAM and video card and power on. No beeps? It's screwed.

If you get beeps (or you may get one short beep, depending on the BIOS), reinsert one RAM module and power on. If you get one long beep followed by two or three short ones, it's successfully detected that there's no video card installed. Reinsert the video card and try again.

If you now get no (or a single) beep, the system thinks the video card is there, but it's not giving a signal (obviously ). Try a new video card or (more likely) check that the motherboard bus speed is setup correctly and that the video card can run at that speed.

Phew, hope this helps

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All boards currently supplied (I took stock of an abit one yesterday) may not recognise the XP processor.

I've got two KG7-RAID boards - both needed the BIOS flashing before recognising the CPU.

Try clearing the CMOS - this will reset to a safe config.
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Lee,

You guessed it!!!!!!!!!

Took the board back and they flashed it for the XP!!!!

But now my f'ing WINDOWS 98 CD won't run!!!!! What a f'ing nightmare!!!!! Keeps crapping out 25% through, saying it can't read/write certain files.........can't understand this cause it's original and unmarked!!!!

Gonna try and get hold on WIN2000.

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You would have thought that the shop would have flashed the Bios before you got it home, specially as you bought an XP cpu. Kinda gives them a clue
Glad it's working now, cr@p at the CD. Had something like this myself. Can't remember how I got round it. May have been the drive giving up. Not shure though, couple years ago.

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Old 03 November 2001, 06:55 PM
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Shaun,
Best thing to do is create a directory on the C drive called something like Win98 and then copy the contents of the Win98 directory from the CD to the new directory on the C drive.Once the files are copied (You don't need subdirectories!) make a reboot and then run the Win98 setup from C:\Win98\setup.exe (If you don't reboot sometimes it still tries to copy files from the CD!) I always find it the best solution to copy the installation files to the hard disk and run setup from there since if you were ever to lose the connection to the CD drive part way through installation (Which I've had many moons ago though it was Win95) you need to start again with it!
If you are installing XP or 2000 then simply replace the Win98 above with I386

Hope this helps?

Cheers,

Nick..
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I have "issues" with XP

Every now and then on boot...

c:\windows\system\config is missing or corrupt.

Never had this before. A royal pain in the ***, have to boot off CD and copy a backedup copy back.

Never had it with the bootleg corporate edition either.

Got a fileserver running the XP1500 and my machine running XP1800 - we'll see how it goes....

Oh, I have NVidia 22.50 drivers - get a few hundred more 3d marks.
Old 03 November 2001, 11:51 PM
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IT GET'S EVEN WORSE!!!!!!!

Got hold of a copy of WIN2000 and every time it tries to install it gives me the message.......

UNEXPECTED KERNEL MODE TRAP

This is turning into the biggest nightmare I have had!!!!!



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98, no worries.

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