View Poll Results: Could Gordon Brown be UK PM?
Yes. He's a UK MP and is as entitled as any other UK MP to be PM.
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No. He's a Jock and they have their own Parliament.
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Should Gordon Brown be Prime Minister?
03 June 2006, 09:20 PM
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Should Gordon Brown be Prime Minister?
If I can remember how to set up a poll I will do, however the question is -
Tony is looking tired and is presiding over a failing administration. NHS, education, immigration, Iraq, prison system, all in crisis and the Deputy Prime Minister won't fall on his sword. Nobody could blame Tony for thinking "enough is enough" and between his wife's income and what he could make on the international lecture circuit there are easier ways to pay the mortgage.
If he stands down and Gordon Brown takes over, I am interested in how English voters (and particularly English Labour voters - I realise that apart from Pete Lewis, there probably aren't too many of them on Scoobynet
) will view this.
The poll choices will be -
Gordon Brown is a Member of Parliament for a constituency that is represented in the UK Parliament at Westminster therefore has as much right as any other UK MP to be Prime Minister.
Gordon Brown is a Jock. They have their own Parliament therfore he shouldn't be Prime Minister (even though he represents a UK Parliamentary seat).
Tony is looking tired and is presiding over a failing administration. NHS, education, immigration, Iraq, prison system, all in crisis and the Deputy Prime Minister won't fall on his sword. Nobody could blame Tony for thinking "enough is enough" and between his wife's income and what he could make on the international lecture circuit there are easier ways to pay the mortgage.
If he stands down and Gordon Brown takes over, I am interested in how English voters (and particularly English Labour voters - I realise that apart from Pete Lewis, there probably aren't too many of them on Scoobynet
) will view this.The poll choices will be -
Gordon Brown is a Member of Parliament for a constituency that is represented in the UK Parliament at Westminster therefore has as much right as any other UK MP to be Prime Minister.
Gordon Brown is a Jock. They have their own Parliament therfore he shouldn't be Prime Minister (even though he represents a UK Parliamentary seat).
03 June 2006, 09:25 PM
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Doesn't matter which seat he represents, he's an old fashioned 'tax and spend' type Labourite - just that he's made a *bit* better job of the economy than his predecessors. He's also made the tax and benefits system so complicated that even civil servants can't understand it. The guy is a one trick pony and that trick was 'indepedance to the Bank of England'. There is no more ....
He's gone to meet the German Chancellor - the German papers were saying 'Who is Gordon Brown?'. Which sort of sums him up really ... I mean, what are his views on Iraq? On education? The NHS? When does ge ever speak ijn the commons except for budget day????
Bad news if he is ever Prime Minister.
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He's gone to meet the German Chancellor - the German papers were saying 'Who is Gordon Brown?'. Which sort of sums him up really ... I mean, what are his views on Iraq? On education? The NHS? When does ge ever speak ijn the commons except for budget day????
Bad news if he is ever Prime Minister.
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03 June 2006, 09:26 PM
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Tony Blair is a tosser and so is everyone else in the labour party too, they are either sleeping around on their wives or blind! or letting illegal and criminal refugees into this country to offend again get him off is what i think!!!
03 June 2006, 09:34 PM
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Perhaps I should have included a third option of "He's a devious **** and that's enough to rule him out of contention for eternity".
My real point was that because he represents a Scottish constituency (and because every time you hear a Cabinet spokesman open their mouth they seem to have a Scottish accent) does this count against him assuming that GB is Labour leader at the next General Election?
My real point was that because he represents a Scottish constituency (and because every time you hear a Cabinet spokesman open their mouth they seem to have a Scottish accent) does this count against him assuming that GB is Labour leader at the next General Election?
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03 June 2006, 09:37 PM
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NO!
I would like to see someone that has setup and run a successful business, someone like Richard Branson. At least this person will hopefully know how to keep the country running and spend our taxes correctly!
Could Blair or Brown actually run there own businesses?
I would like to see someone that has setup and run a successful business, someone like Richard Branson. At least this person will hopefully know how to keep the country running and spend our taxes correctly!
Could Blair or Brown actually run there own businesses?
03 June 2006, 10:00 PM
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They are BOTH doing superb jobs in their own right ........ the economy is better than it EVER was under the Tories.
We are all extremely wealthy now so it amazes me why idiots on here want to change a winning formula?
Labour will win again ...... in 4 years time - so, get used to it and stop bloody crying about it all the time!!
The majority has spoken and you are in the minority!
Get off your lazy ***** and stop waiting for the Government of the day to spoon feed you - you bloody kiddies!!
Pete
We are all extremely wealthy now so it amazes me why idiots on here want to change a winning formula?
Labour will win again ...... in 4 years time - so, get used to it and stop bloody crying about it all the time!!
The majority has spoken and you are in the minority!Get off your lazy ***** and stop waiting for the Government of the day to spoon feed you - you bloody kiddies!!
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03 June 2006, 10:04 PM
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who extremly wealthy? im fookin skint. im a single bloke with a mortgage, and struggle to pay the high council tax bill , fuel bils etc.
so where dis you get that **** from?
so where dis you get that **** from?
03 June 2006, 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by watto52
who extremly wealthy? im fookin skint. im a single bloke with a mortgage, and struggle to pay the high council tax bill , fuel bils etc.
so where dis you get that **** from?
so where dis you get that **** from?
"i put 38k in an halifax account last year with no problems at all.
mind you i spent it within 8 months"
Now, you are either lying on the other thread or you are wealthy ......... either way you come across as a right wally!!
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03 June 2006, 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
This is your post on another thread:-
"i put 38k in an halifax account last year with no problems at all.
mind you i spent it within 8 months"
Now, you are either lying on the other thread or you are wealthy ......... either way you come across as a right wally!!
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"i put 38k in an halifax account last year with no problems at all.
mind you i spent it within 8 months"
Now, you are either lying on the other thread or you are wealthy ......... either way you come across as a right wally!!
Pete
Seems i have to get married to get by and im certainly not doing that.
03 June 2006, 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by watto52
yeah, i went thru a divorce and sold the house for that. its not come from the goverment at all. Yes i was a fool to waste it but now im back to earth, im finding it difficult to get by.
Seems i have to get married to get by and im certainly not doing that.
Seems i have to get married to get by and im certainly not doing that.
They are not responsible for your marraige break-up .... unless you are the husband of Prescotts secretary?
Hope you get settled soon!
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03 June 2006, 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
The government created the conditions for you to profit from a house sale, so I think you should be grateful.
They are not responsible for your marraige break-up .... unless you are the husband of Prescotts secretary?
Hope you get settled soon!
Pete
They are not responsible for your marraige break-up .... unless you are the husband of Prescotts secretary?
Hope you get settled soon!
Pete
03 June 2006, 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
They are BOTH doing superb jobs in their own right ........ the economy is better than it EVER was under the Tories.
Blah blah blah blah blah blah
Blah blah blah blah blah blah
03 June 2006, 10:26 PM
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Pete - will you please answer my question. Does Gordon Brown being an MP for a Scottish constituency cause you any problems as Scotland has its own Parliament? Yes or No will suffice.
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03 June 2006, 10:53 PM
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Sorry, can't let pissy pants go to bed without commenting on this load of bollocks.
No, the economy is in a more and more fragile shape everyday, supported by people 'releasing equity' from their overpriced property in an unseasonably long period of low interest rates. Rates are set to rise soon, as inflation is on the up, fueled largely by oil prices. This will hit the high street, and people will reach the limit of being able to serve the enormous level of debt they're taking on. Haven't you seen the graph of bankruptcies recently?
"We" are not. The wealth is an illusion of smoke and mirrors. Property prices on the whole make people 'feel' richer, despite the fact that money doesn't exist unless they sell their house and downsize, or go and live in a carboard box.
Don't bet on it. Seen any opinion polls recently? Labour are trailling actually and if you want to put your money where your mouth is I'd quite like to wager that the electorate will be kicking the incumbant out in 4 years time.
Which majority is that then. In the last election in England more people voted Tory than Labour. It's just due to the boundary shifts many years ago that Tony and his cronies undertook that gave an advantage to their consituencies, meaning that despite gaining less votes, they had more seats. And I'd barely count 25% of the electorate the 'majority' in any sense of the word.
Most of us here do. In the last 10 years since college I've been out of work for just 1 day, despite going through redundancy etc.
Originally Posted by pissy pants lewis
They are BOTH doing superb jobs in their own right ........ the economy is better than it EVER was under the Tories.
Originally Posted by pissy pants lewis
We are all extremely wealthy now so it amazes me why idiots on here want to change a winning formula?
Originally Posted by pissy pants lewis
Labour will win again ...... in 4 years time - so, get used to it and stop bloody crying about it all the time!!
Originally Posted by pissy pants lewis
The majority has spoken and you are in the minority!
Originally Posted by pissy pants lewis
Get off your lazy ***** and stop waiting for the Government of the day to spoon feed you - you bloody kiddies!!
Originally Posted by pissy pants lewis
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03 June 2006, 10:59 PM
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The Scottish Parliament has no power over the most important aspects of government in Scotland.
Scottish soldiers are sent by the British Government to fight in Iraq etc, Taxes are decided by the British Government etc etc etc.
So until each Parliament totally controls its own country the the status quo will continue and Scottish MP's will continue to vote on matters concerning Britain(not England)
Oh and I would'nt let Gordon Brown run a raffle
Scottish soldiers are sent by the British Government to fight in Iraq etc, Taxes are decided by the British Government etc etc etc.
So until each Parliament totally controls its own country the the status quo will continue and Scottish MP's will continue to vote on matters concerning Britain(not England)
Oh and I would'nt let Gordon Brown run a raffle
03 June 2006, 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by douglasb
Pete - will you please answer my question. Does Gordon Brown being an MP for a Scottish constituency cause you any problems as Scotland has its own Parliament? Yes or No will suffice.
As for whether Gordon Brown is Scottish or not shouldn't matter - would it make a difference to you if he was MP for an English or Welsh seat? Makes no difference to me if an MSP is English / Welsh / Irish or whatever.
04 June 2006, 12:51 AM
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FPMSL!
This is the first poll I have seen which has had 100% for one option! Or it did at the point of posting this.
Just a side note, as much as I hate the Conservatives, Labour came to power when the economy turned and have rode a growing economy which has lasted by house owners further borrowing on their house equity and thus sustaining an otherwise dwindling economy. Now that fuel prices, Gas etc have rockeketed let's see how well they will do now. The unit I work for now (part of a large public quoted co.) has managed to push through 60%+ price increases without challenge from customers as they can no longer hold off transport, utilities and general global usage increases pushing up prices.
This is the first poll I have seen which has had 100% for one option! Or it did at the point of posting this.
Just a side note, as much as I hate the Conservatives, Labour came to power when the economy turned and have rode a growing economy which has lasted by house owners further borrowing on their house equity and thus sustaining an otherwise dwindling economy. Now that fuel prices, Gas etc have rockeketed let's see how well they will do now. The unit I work for now (part of a large public quoted co.) has managed to push through 60%+ price increases without challenge from customers as they can no longer hold off transport, utilities and general global usage increases pushing up prices.
04 June 2006, 02:09 AM
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I would not want Gordon Brown to be Prime Minister. But not for his nationality, but because his ability in the position he has held so far, has been nothing more than fueling the degredation of the UK economy. Yet he ignores it and massages figures, pretending everything is ok. For want of a better word, he's just plainly incompetent.
As for his nationality. Well, it would be nice if the government's focus was decentralised and taken away from the confines of the M25
As for his nationality. Well, it would be nice if the government's focus was decentralised and taken away from the confines of the M25
04 June 2006, 07:19 AM
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Which majority is that then. In the last election in England more people voted Tory than Labour. It's just due to the boundary shifts many years ago that Tony and his cronies undertook that gave an advantage to their consituencies, meaning that despite gaining less votes, they had more seats.
An article about Tory gains from boundary changes
http://www.findarticles.com/p/articl...7/ai_n14631082
04 June 2006, 07:57 AM
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When i think about Flash Gordon i see him as a git, not a Scottish git but a git.
Not really thought too much about his heritage as i do not find it an issue.
He is still a git though and in some ways i want him to be prime minister so he can reap what he has sown but really i do not think he deserves the job.
Not really thought too much about his heritage as i do not find it an issue.
He is still a git though and in some ways i want him to be prime minister so he can reap what he has sown but really i do not think he deserves the job.
04 June 2006, 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Suresh
The average IQ in the UK is 100. My guess the average SN IQ comes it quite a bit lower than that , judging by the standard of posts on this thread.
An article about Tory gains from boundary changes
http://www.findarticles.com/p/articl...7/ai_n14631082
An article about Tory gains from boundary changes
http://www.findarticles.com/p/articl...7/ai_n14631082
Yet still you keep coming back - nice to see someone prepared to help the hard of thinking/'special needs' SN'ers
04 June 2006, 09:10 AM
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I leave one thought for the electors on SN and I Quote: "Society has always seemed to demand a little more from human beings than it will get in practice" George Orwell
04 June 2006, 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
The majority has spoken and you are in the minority!
Pete
Fact of the matter is that more ppl in England voted for Conservative than Labour in the last election.
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