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Old 25 May 2006, 07:06 PM
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Is there any type of advanced linense you can get. Does this help lower your insurance. Is there any driving days any one recommend going on.

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Old 25 May 2006, 07:20 PM
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Is there any type of advanced linense you can get. Does this help lower your insurance. Is there any driving days any one recommend going on.

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my dad did one of these and it did lower his premium, google it and you should be able to get lots of info

http://www.iam.org.uk/Advancedtest/index.php
Old 25 May 2006, 07:43 PM
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It's not a licence.
Join the Police if you want that.
A pass from either the IAM or ROSPA tests may give you a discount from some insurance companies.
Old 25 May 2006, 10:16 PM
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The IAM is full of elitist driving snobs who teach push-pull steering which is only required for non-power-steering cars that have four stiff turns lock-to-lock and techniques like non overlapping clutch & brakes, great if you don't have synchromesh.

On the other hand, their observation and hazard awareness techniques are very good and it's probably thanks to tham I haven't had an accident in 22 years of driving too fast.
Old 25 May 2006, 10:18 PM
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i did my pass plus cost 120 quid and it lowers my insurance by 25%
Old 25 May 2006, 10:29 PM
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ROSPA is far better than IAM and closer to what the Police get taught. The top level ROSPA award is the highest training a civilian driver can get. Good for bikes, too.
Old 26 May 2006, 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by GaryCat
The IAM is full of elitist driving snobs who teach push-pull steering which is only required for non-power-steering cars that have four stiff turns lock-to-lock and techniques like non overlapping clutch & brakes, great if you don't have synchromesh.


The IAM is well worth doing, although like most things, you only get out what you put in. My instructor was quite possibly the quickest Carerra C4S driver I have seen, in fact most our our group are performance orientated, TVR's Scoobs, 350Z (me ).

By the way push pull steering is old hat, and not part of the test. As for not overlapping, that's a fairly essential aspect of car control. Upsetting the balance of a 60mph one tonne object is not good. Just look at racing telemetry mate, get your braking out of the way before cornering, it keeps the stability in check.

I can sort of see some of your point to be honest, the IAM doesn't have the best reputation, and it doesn't do itself any favours in the media. And yes, there are still some of the flat cap brigade all over the country

All I can say is dive in a give it a go. Bear in mind that groups are voluntary, and the quality obviously varies considerably.
Old 26 May 2006, 09:09 AM
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Pass Plus is probably the easiest if you've not long passed your test - no tests, just an assessment by the instructor, and it covers fairly basic things.

Beware though that not all insurance companies give discounts, and some only give about 5%, so check with yours if it would be worth spending the money on first.
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Originally Posted by NotoriousREV
ROSPA is far better than IAM and closer to what the Police get taught.
Not sure I'd agree with that
Old 26 May 2006, 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Kuro
Originally Posted by NotoriousREV
ROSPA is far better than IAM and closer to what the Police get taught.
Not sure I'd agree with that
Me either, my IAM instructor was a Police driving instructor and told us he was teaching much of the same stuff.
Old 26 May 2006, 10:53 AM
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Theres a bitter rivalry between the IAM and RoSPA; as you can see.....
Old 26 May 2006, 11:00 AM
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I am An IAM Observer, The PushPull is still in action, But only as far as not crossing your arms. The last person I had teaching she would get her arms crossed and there was no room for any more steering if it was needed (to avoid something) so it does still have a place, but not in a stuffy way. It is all about Safety and Progression (using the maximum safe speed)
I have also done Rospa and it is much the same as IAM, it is well worth doing IAM and not just for the insurance reductions.
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Originally Posted by OllyK
Me either, my IAM instructor was a Police driving instructor and told us he was teaching much of the same stuff.
My RoSPA instructor trained Police Driving Instructors
Old 26 May 2006, 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by NotoriousREV
My RoSPA instructor trained Police Driving Instructors
Same as Mine, Also does IAM training. People should stop thinking it is for Old people or "elitist driving snobs", either one is worth doing just to become a better driver,
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