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Old 25 May 2006, 01:33 PM
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You'll all have to work until you are 68 before you can retire.

Thanks, greatest leader we've ever had.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/5015928.stm
Old 25 May 2006, 01:37 PM
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Won't affect me - In 2044 I'll be in psl's age bracket, causing mayhem at the nursing home

They could have done more by simply stopping the taxation of pension funds. Something that I believe the grubby little Mr. Brown brought in.
Old 25 May 2006, 01:50 PM
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meanwhile MPs carry on benefiting best pension scheme in Western Europe
Old 25 May 2006, 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by kingofturds
meanwhile MPs carry on benefiting best pension scheme in Western Europe
Why wouldn't they?

They are Hardly going to say "Hold on a minute lads, we've really screwed up with Assylum, Immigation, Iraq, Taxation, Pensions, Iraq, Education, Welfare, Iraq, John, ID Cards, Law and Order, Healthcare, oh, and Iraq. Lets give ourselves a paycut and bring our pensions in line with something that's legal in the private sector"
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I expect all the civil servants still get to retire at 60 with a generous state pension too. A full 9 years before the rest of us suckers.
Old 25 May 2006, 03:44 PM
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Bu66er. That's me w**king an extra year then
Old 25 May 2006, 03:55 PM
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I know I wont be waiting till 68 to retire. If you are really banking on the pittance that the government deal out I’d say you’re screwed anyhow.
Old 25 May 2006, 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by unclebuck

greatest leader we've ever had.
UB see's sense at last.
Old 25 May 2006, 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by unclebuck
You'll all have to work until you are 68 before you can retire.

Thanks, greatest leader we've ever had.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/5015928.stm
Yeah ...like its gonna be such a hardship for us all ...an extra 3 years tapping away at a keyboard & staring at a monitor, ffs
Old 25 May 2006, 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by unclebuck
I expect all the civil servants still get to retire at 60
Why not, it's forms part of their contract of employment
Old 25 May 2006, 06:09 PM
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2044 and i will be 64, then have to wait another four years for my pension rather than 1 year.

glad i have two pension plans and some other schemes going now. the country will be better off in the hands of someone else
Old 25 May 2006, 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by unclebuck
You'll all have to work until you are 68 before you can retire.

Thanks, greatest leader we've ever had.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/5015928.stm
I know it is difficult, but please try not to be such a ****.

People are living longer and there are fewer younger people to contribute to the pot. The Swiss increased the retirement age two years back already to 67 starting 2012. Nothing to do with Blair - just common sense! Which is why you will never get it...
Old 25 May 2006, 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave1980
glad i have two pension plans and some other schemes going now. the country will be better off in the hands of someone else
Yeah, that's the next big thing that's going to go pear shaped - after the endowments fiasco. A lot of these pension funds aren't performing and a large propotion of them won't be worth anything like what they're projected to be.
Old 25 May 2006, 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Suresh
I know it is difficult, but please try not to be such a ****.

People are living longer and there are fewer younger people to contribute to the pot. The Swiss increased the retirement age two years back already to 67 starting 2012. Nothing to do with Blair - just common sense! Which is why you will never get it...
I know it's difficult, but try not to be so shortsited and get your tongue out of Blair's ****.

Yes, there's a case for requiring people to work longer as people are living longer, but had Brown not raided pension funds like he did then the measures taken now need not be so drastic as raising it to 68.
Old 25 May 2006, 11:48 PM
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Originally Posted by SD
I know it's difficult, but try not to be so shortsited
Do you mind? I am actually the owner of 2 different websites and expect to be adding a 3rd domain to my portfolio within a couple of months.
Old 25 May 2006, 11:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Suresh
Do you mind? I am actually the owner of 2 different websites and expect to be adding a 3rd domain to my portfolio within a couple of months.
LOL, ok *shortsighted* then...
Old 26 May 2006, 12:26 AM
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The state pension age has been raised because of the demographic timebomb Britain is facing with the long term funding state pensions. Did Gordon B. actually raid state pension coffers?
Old 26 May 2006, 12:31 AM
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Originally Posted by unclebuck
greatest leader we've ever had
Excellent news!!!!

UB recognises Tony's rightful status - took you some time, but well done!!!

Pete
Old 26 May 2006, 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Suresh
The state pension age has been raised because of the demographic timebomb Britain is facing with the long term funding state pensions. Did Gordon B. actually raid state pension coffers?
He certainly did ...............
Old 26 May 2006, 08:03 AM
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No he didn't.

a) there aren't state 'coffers' to raid, state pensions are funded out of current year taxes

b) he's already cheerfully ringfenced and protected most public sector pensions (the teachers got theirs sorted this week, for example)

I can't remember the exact numbers but the institute of actuaries firmly lay the blame at Brown/ New Labour's door. Taking £5bn a year from private pension funds for nearly 10 years has been the main driver of today's ~£100bn shortfall (they tracked back to show how those monies would have performed if they'd been allowed to be invested each year).

It's time these Liars were held to account vs both their abysmal performance vs any of their election manifestos and the continual sleaze and dishonesty. For example did you know that carbon emissions in the UK have risen in each of the last 3 years (per today's papers) - doesn't feel like we're going to manage a 20% reduction by 2020, does it? Pillocks. This despite record taxes, record levels of illegal immigrants, appalling performance on education, crime and health and a frightening blame culture which still makes them deny it's anything to do with them!

Time for a change.

Gordo
Old 26 May 2006, 08:05 AM
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I thought Tony's legacy to the British people was going to be a 200ft high bronze hand flicking the v's?
Old 26 May 2006, 02:17 PM
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its all okay though because god will judge him...
Old 26 May 2006, 02:37 PM
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And here's the rest of Blair's sad legacy. A trio of terminally deluded ***** who have dutifully eaten all the sh*t they've been fed over the years by NL.
Originally Posted by paulr
UB see's sense at last.
Originally Posted by Suresh
Nothing to do with Blair -
Originally Posted by pslewis
UB recognises Tony's rightful status


Old 26 May 2006, 03:19 PM
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Did you realise that Flash is going to force people to pay the extra for the S2P pension but only pay them the basic pension if they have more that £15K per annum.

That sounds like straight robbery to me. Why should they lose all the extra money they have paid in?

Les
Old 27 May 2006, 07:01 AM
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Aging population certainly doesn't help but whats been said is right. Real disposable income has fallen certianly in the South and debts per head are at the highest level ever. Due to the slow down in the global economy pensions are peforming badly.

If you can afford it stop paying into your pension and buy some extra property. I'm considering caashing in my 18 yeras of multiple pensions to fund the purchase of another property which I'm sure will perform far better than any pension taking into account the tax issues.

My Dad already retired at 50 so th thought of me working to 68 is rather terrifying but guess its going to ahve to be done. I'd hope to be working form hopme living of ebay by then !



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