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Old 13 April 2006, 07:51 PM
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Lightbulb Is terrestrial tv broadcast in 4.3 or 16.9?

As per title,or is it a mixture.
Old 13 April 2006, 07:53 PM
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Analogue all in 4x3

Digital, depends on program.
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Digital,is it all going widescreen in the end?
Old 13 April 2006, 09:00 PM
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More often than not it's about 14:9, with black bars top & bottom. It's formatted for display on a 4:3 set, though, so a 16:9 widescreen set has to zoom in to avoid getting black bars on all four sides of the picture.
Old 13 April 2006, 10:34 PM
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Lee !?

All UK analogue terrestrial is ARC'd [aspect ratio converted] to 14:9 on output whatever its originating format aspect ratio. This is the halfway house between anamorphic 16:9 widescreen and 4:3 whilst 4:3 TV's still exist [and continue being sold to unsuspecting punters]. The reason for this is that us TV people are told to shoot 16:9 but 'protect' for display via 14:9.

Confused? Well its all to stop people with 4:3 tellys missing any edge of screen action whilst also minimising the black bars they end up with top and bottom on 4:3 tellys when 16:9 anamorphic is converted and shrunk to fit.

People get paid vast sums of money to teach this mish mash you know!!!

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Old 14 April 2006, 05:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Diesel
Lee !?
I assumed he was asking about anamorphic broadcasts.

Black bars or not all anoalogue broadcasts are in 4X3

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Old 14 April 2006, 05:26 PM
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You are confusing between anamorphic and 'normal-morphic' Lee. 14:9 is the aspect ratio of analogue broadcasts - its is 'square' like 4:3 but it is not the same aspect ratio.

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Old 14 April 2006, 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Diesel
You are confusing between anamorphic and 'normal-morphic' Lee. 14:9 is the aspect ratio of analogue broadcasts - its is 'square' like 4:3 but it is not the same aspect ratio.

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I know all the formats mate but sort of miss-read what he was asking.
14X9 and 16X9 on "normal-phormic" analogue broadcast is fairly pointless for widescreen TV's if you ask me. Who wants to zoom in on a 576i picture anyway? I know it's a half way house at the moment but it's the reason I never watch analogue broadcasts.

All analogue pal broadcasts are 4X3 its just the aspect ratio of the visible picture is changed by the use of matting top and bottom or picture loss from the sides.

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Old 14 April 2006, 07:27 PM
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Blo0dy hell...all i want to know is i'm buying a cheap LCD tv,should i get a W/S or 4.3?
Its for films plus some tv....about 50/50.
Old 14 April 2006, 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by paulr
Blo0dy hell...all i want to know is i'm buying a cheap LCD tv,should i get a W/S or 4.3?
Its for films plus some tv....about 50/50.
Well nearly all your DVD's are going to be widescreen and the majority or digital TV is widescreen.
Only reason to go 4X3 is if it's mega cheap, large and you don't mind black bars.

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Absolutely no point getting a 4:3 set mate – analogue broadcasts start to be switched off in 2008 [and will be complete by 2011].

The fact that Lee and I disagree what the active pic aspect ratio for analogue is irrelevant [especially as the tape measure doesn’t lie!]. So as Lee says if you zoom out a 14:9 pic based on about only 500 active used lines then its gonna look soft and nasty and washed out. A digital source though [Sky, Cable, Freeview] will fill yer 16:9 screen up in proper 16:9 widescreen [so at least that last sentence made some simple sense!].

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Thanks guys. Widescreen it is then.
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err lads..... "Put down the tape measures , and Step away from the tv's.."

thank you
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PMSL - esp after just watching Road Wars!
Old 23 July 2006, 03:08 PM
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Okay,if analogue CH4 is 4.3 and digital CH4 is widescreen do they film it in two aspect ratios or is one "stretched" or "squeezed". If the latter then surely one of them is not a true representation of what we are watching?

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Old 23 July 2006, 03:52 PM
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Thats already been answered. Filmed in 16:9 and broadcast as such on digital TV. Analogue TV has a 4:3 signal broadcast but the image displayed is 14:9 with small black bars added.
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