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Old 09 April 2006, 04:53 PM
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"Mobile phone retailer Carphone Warehouse is expected to announce the launch of a free broadband service later this week.

The company looks poised to provide free access for customers who sign up for their Talk Talk landline service"

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4893194.stm

BT will be ****ting themselves ...... HA HA HA HA HA!!!! GOOD!

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Old 09 April 2006, 05:01 PM
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Only a matter of time Pete - I was at a BT seminar (up in the big BT tower) and BT made it very clear, that in 5 years nobody will be paying for internet access. You just pay for the premium services etc.
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No big deal really - broadband is cheap anyway, and obviously its only 'free' when you sign up for talktalk which is probably £15 a month I would guess?

The broadband will probably be only 1meg speed and limited to a 1gig download limit each month, so by the time you've increased the speed and download limit that'll add another £10/month...

Still be interesting to see.
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Would Talk Talk charge line rental like BT does??

Can you dump BT from a great height??

Would be good to see BT squeal like British Gas are at the moment

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Old 09 April 2006, 06:12 PM
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This will please my g/f. Her parents are signed upto talk/talk

I'll stick with Zen for the time being, as the old saying goes, you get what you pay for!
Old 09 April 2006, 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis

Would be good to see BT squeal like British Gas are at the moment

Pete
How are british gas squelaing Pete. Their profits were up £650m in the last 12 months.

Thought you'd have known that as you fancy yourself as a bit of a financial whizzkid.

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Old 09 April 2006, 06:14 PM
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Where can you get internet free from Talk talk. Nowt on their website about it.

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Old 09 April 2006, 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
Would Talk Talk charge line rental like BT does??

Can you dump BT from a great height??

Would be good to see BT squeal like British Gas are at the moment

Pete

Talk Talk do charge line rental but it is cheaper than BT.

I currently use Talk Talk for free calls to all my family and friends (usual call costs are about £3 per month now LOL)

So yes, talk talk will provide broadband free, calls free, oh and pay for line rental - bargain if you ask me.
Old 09 April 2006, 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Chip
How are british gas squelaing Pete. Their profits were up £650m in the last 12 months.

Thought you'd have known that as you fancy yourself as a bit of a financial whizzkid.

Chip
And also why are BT sh*tting it? They still own all the infrastructure that we use for our phone lines and broadband (adsl) - Talktalk, Wanadoo etc are essentially resellers of BT's services, so cant see them being too upset!
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Originally Posted by Petem95
And also why are BT sh*tting it? They still own all the infrastructure that we use for our phone lines and broadband (adsl) - Talktalk, Wanadoo etc are essentially resellers of BT's services, so cant see them being too upset!

No they're not as they are no longer a "holes and poles" company - i.e. putting wires and telegraph poles in.

They are now an IT services company, all the infrastructure is in and paid for...
Old 09 April 2006, 08:13 PM
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Used Carphone Warehouse from the outset. Call package (Talk 3) £7.99/month for unlimited landline calls. Calls to TalkTalk users are free anyway.

Landline charge, slightly less than BT (Charged in advance, as below).

Service Charges:


Talk 3 11/03/06 - 10/04/06 £6.80
Call Charges 01234 567890 £0.37
Line Rental & Calling Feature £9.36
Line Rental 11/03/06 - 10/04/06 £8.93
Voice Mail 11/03/06 - 10/04/06 £0.43


Sub Total for this invoice: £16.53
VAT@ 17.5% £2.89

Invoice total (£):
£19.42


I change about periodically and thought I might even switch to Pipex for an even cheaper £4.99/month from memory, although that's capped at 3000 minutes/month.

Trouble is I'd lose the Talk Talk landline deal and potentially the free broadband.

Having said that it'll be interesting to see if existing customers get the free broadband (Can't see it not being the case), although previous free months talktime promotions have excluded existing customers.

One thing is for sure, once you move there's always going to be competition to tempt you to move again.
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Originally Posted by Moonloops
No they're not as they are no longer a "holes and poles" company - i.e. putting wires and telegraph poles in.

They are now an IT services company, all the infrastructure is in and paid for...
It depends which part of the BT Group you are talking about. For instance,

BT Retail who flog line rental, broadband etc to the home & business markets
BT Openreach who do provide wires for Wholesale Line Rental (WLR), maintain exchanges and the like. Openreach owns and manages the network.

Then there is BT Global Services, BT Wholesale and more.

Carphone Warehouse are looking at spending ~£60 million on Local Loop Unbundling to provide this "free" ADSL service. This means they put their own equipment in some (but probably not all) of the BT exchanges. BT Openreach then provide the copper for the "last mile" to houses. As CW will then no longer have to pay BT Wholesale for provision of the broadband, they price it at their levels.

CW have a bit of a way to go on broadband customer levels though. They have approx 75,000 customers. BT Retail has 2.3 million and NTL / Telewest has 2.8 million.

Now Sky own EasyNet, I expect they will be along to the party shortly as well.
Old 09 April 2006, 09:09 PM
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People are cute these days .... if you snooze, you lose!!

I am a winner and I guess a few on SN are clued up as well ....

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Old 09 April 2006, 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
People are cute these days .... if you snooze, you lose!!

I am a winner and I guess a few on SN are clued up as well ....

Pete
Píssy, except you're not!! You only discovered the benefits of switching recently, according to your most recent threads.
Old 09 April 2006, 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Spoon
Píssy, except you're not!! You only discovered the benefits of switching recently, according to your most recent threads.
Go away ...........

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Old 09 April 2006, 10:01 PM
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So you have to sign up for a "Talk Talk" service to get free broadband?

I've had free broadband for 13 months now!

My details must have got lost in the matrix but I'm not complaining!
Old 09 April 2006, 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by BEW
So you have to sign up for a "Talk Talk" service to get free broadband?

I've had free broadband for 13 months now!

My details must have got lost in the matrix but I'm not complaining!
Ah but it doesn't count if you live at home and your parents pay it!
Old 09 April 2006, 10:11 PM
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eh?

I signed up to X broadband last March for £17.99 per month and have paid nothing at all since.
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All will be revealed to the company employees tomorrow! And announcd to the general public on Tuesday!

From what I know - CPW expect this to be absolutely huge! They've opened 2 extra call centres to deal with demand ( including 1 in South Africa).They're opening their stores 30 mins early on Tuesday and not allowing anymore holidays to be booked in April or May. They've taken on loads of temporary staff and installed dedicated broadband tills in the bigger stores! They have NEVER kept anything this secretive before which just shows how much they are behind it and won't let it fail.They know they have very few broadband customers at the moment but before they were just dipping their toes in the water, but this is their main launch. I do not know the exact deal ( I will find out tomorrow) but they feel that NOBODY will be able to match apart from BT who are very unlikely to!

Rumours I've heard....(remember they are rumours!)

Will be full speed internet eg, 1meg, 2meg, 8 meg - whatever is available in your local area.

There will be no dowload limits (as long as you don't take the pi$$)

Errrmmm it will be free if you join talktalk

Existing customer CAN go on it

It will be subject to an 18 month contract

Ta
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Like I said .......

It's going to rock the boat somewhat!!

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Originally Posted by wizgti
Existing customer CAN go on it
Andrew,

Here's hoping.
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Originally Posted by pslewis
"Mobile phone retailer Carphone Warehouse is expected to announce the launch of a free broadband service later this week.

The company looks poised to provide free access for customers who sign up for their Talk Talk landline service"

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4893194.stm

BT will be ****ting themselves ...... HA HA HA HA HA!!!! GOOD!

Pete
Lewis, you are such a muppet! Sign up for their extortionate lines and you get "free" boradband? Jeez, retailers dream of customers like you!

BT ****ting themsleves? I doubt it. Carphone Warehouse have to pay BT to use their lines for broadband, no one else provides ADSL broadband in the UK.

Still, an old bloke you probably doesn't understand all this fangled new techology

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Originally Posted by wizgti
All will be revealed to the company employees tomorrow! And announcd to the general public on Tuesday!

From what I know - CPW expect this to be absolutely huge! They've opened 2 extra call centres to deal with demand ( including 1 in South Africa).They're opening their stores 30 mins early on Tuesday and not allowing anymore holidays to be booked in April or May. They've taken on loads of temporary staff and installed dedicated broadband tills in the bigger stores! They have NEVER kept anything this secretive before which just shows how much they are behind it and won't let it fail.They know they have very few broadband customers at the moment but before they were just dipping their toes in the water, but this is their main launch. I do not know the exact deal ( I will find out tomorrow) but they feel that NOBODY will be able to match apart from BT who are very unlikely to!

Rumours I've heard....(remember they are rumours!)

Will be full speed internet eg, 1meg, 2meg, 8 meg - whatever is available in your local area.

There will be no dowload limits (as long as you don't take the pi$$)

Errrmmm it will be free if you join talktalk

Existing customer CAN go on it

It will be subject to an 18 month contract

Ta
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Must be some strings surely? No connection charges??

Keep us posted mate, I might have to have a serious look into this tomorrow if it does become available then!!
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Originally Posted by Geezer
Lewis, you are such a muppet! Sign up for their extortionate lines and you get "free" boradband? Jeez, retailers dream of customers like you!

BT ****ting themsleves? I doubt it. Carphone Warehouse have to pay BT to use their lines for broadband, no one else provides ADSL broadband in the UK.

Still, an old bloke you probably doesn't understand all this fangled new techology

Geezer
Geezer, read post #12

Quite a few companies other than BT provide ADSL broadband in the UK via Local Loop Unbundling. We've had an EasyNet LLU ADSL connection at work for around 2 years now. EasyNet activated our exchange for ADSL months before BT arrived.
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Now Sky own EasyNet, I expect they will be along to the party shortly as well.
Hmmm, lets shorten the name to something more catchy...how about.... SkyNet

Wonder if they've got a sister company called Cyberdyne....
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Originally Posted by Petem95
Must be some strings surely? No connection charges??

Keep us posted mate, I might have to have a serious look into this tomorrow if it does become available then!!
Unfortunetly I'm not at the conference today as I'm on holiday - but I'm sure it'll be all over the news and on their website tomorrow! As for catches I don't know but it's very unlikely cos it's not CPW's style! The only thing I can think is the 18 month contract - they need to do this as I believe thats the point they break even! Remember at the moment they're trying to grow market share not after exccessively big profits like BT!
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Originally Posted by Geezer
Lewis, you are such a muppet! Sign up for their extortionate lines and you get "free" boradband? Jeez, retailers dream of customers like you!

Geezer
Extortionate!!! TalkTalk are guaranteed cheaper than BT - £1000 says they are!


I'll stop talking now before I get accused of advertising
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Originally Posted by Geezer
Lewis, you are such a muppet! Sign up for their extortionate lines and you get "free" boradband? Jeez, retailers dream of customers like you!

BT ****ting themsleves? I doubt it. Carphone Warehouse have to pay BT to use their lines for broadband, no one else provides ADSL broadband in the UK.

Still, an old bloke you probably doesn't understand all this fangled new techology

Geezer
Geezer, for starters if you read correctly, Carphone Warehouse are cheaper, so as for extortionate line charges, I guess you are the muppet here.

If Pissy, as an old bloke, doesn't understand new technology as you say, then I'm willing to bet you don't understand figures, at whatever age you are.
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Originally Posted by Geezer
Lewis, you are such a muppet! Sign up for their extortionate lines and you get "free" boradband? Jeez, retailers dream of customers like you!

Geezer
They will be cheaper than BT - they need it to succeed .... so, what is your point??

You have only succeeded in making yourself look like a wally!!

Pete
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Apparently peer-to-peer wont be allowed with the free broadband

I assuming they'll put a block on those ports - so its not a great deal for anyone who downloads lots of stuff using shareaza or whatever, and lets face it thats one of the main reasons for having broadband....


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