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Old 01 April 2006, 06:43 PM
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Right, without going into too much detail, i was slightly involved in a road rage incident earlier.... i wasn't in the scoob, but my trusty old Rover 218 diesel.....
The other guy involved no doubt got my number plate, but i failed to get his, there was no contact, and we didn't stop... so if he was bothered enough to call the cops.... where would i stand if accused of lest say dangerous driving.... there would be no independant witnesses, as like i say, niether of us stopped..... in my book it was him who caused the incident, however doubtless he would see it the other way around....

All opinions welcome.... but preferably reliable ones......!
Old 01 April 2006, 06:45 PM
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Youre nicked sonny
Old 01 April 2006, 06:46 PM
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It won't go anywhere without witnesses, you could try to lodge a counter claim against him. Don't worry about it... next time turn the other cheek, much less stressful
Old 01 April 2006, 06:46 PM
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wouldnt worry about it, his word against yours bud...
Old 01 April 2006, 06:55 PM
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I was clearly hoping that that would be the case..... it just got me wondering thats all.... daft git was doing 60 in the outside lane of a D/C and would not pull over.....
Old 01 April 2006, 07:19 PM
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No witnesses Ron, your ok . BMW driver?
Old 01 April 2006, 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by pauld37
No witnesses Ron, your ok . BMW driver?

Nope, not a beemer, a vaux Zafira complete with three kids!!!
Old 01 April 2006, 10:55 PM
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Nothing happened! FFS, some people don't have enough to worry about in ther lives. :S
Old 01 April 2006, 10:56 PM
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Let's hear the rest of the story then!
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Old 01 April 2006, 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Bubba po
Nothing happened! FFS, some people don't have enough to worry about in ther lives. :S

Ooo, handgags at dawn..... some people have nothing to do but make worthless post on threads where someone was clearly concerned enough to ask a question.....
Old 02 April 2006, 12:28 AM
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If u dont want a less positive perspective look away now....

I was involved in an accident a couple of years ago. Police attended but then wrote to my insurers admitting they had a log of the 2 coppers attending but 1) the two coppers had left the force and 2) there was no record of the accident being filed. As I was only semi-conscious at the time this effectively meant no witnesses and no number plate.

My insurers are now persuing the claim with the MIB, who in turn are still trying to track the driver down. Cant see them succeeding personally - my description - asian bloke in big silver thing - probably isnt the best but I know they got hold of CCTV footage on the day and trawled thru that so they're not exactly sitting back...

I guess you have to ask yourself how much at fault were you - did you scare the sh!te out of him or were you both 'as bad' as eachother? Was there much damage? Did he look like a tw@t with nowt better to do with his time than filling in forms?
Old 02 April 2006, 12:47 AM
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Originally Posted by brumdaisy
If u dont want a less positive perspective look away now....

I was involved in an accident a couple of years ago. Police attended but then wrote to my insurers admitting they had a log of the 2 coppers attending but 1) the two coppers had left the force and 2) there was no record of the accident being filed. As I was only semi-conscious at the time this effectively meant no witnesses and no number plate.

My insurers are now persuing the claim with the MIB, who in turn are still trying to track the driver down. Cant see them succeeding personally - my description - asian bloke in big silver thing - probably isnt the best but I know they got hold of CCTV footage on the day and trawled thru that so they're not exactly sitting back...

I guess you have to ask yourself how much at fault were you - did you scare the sh!te out of him or were you both 'as bad' as eachother? Was there much damage? Did he look like a tw@t with nowt better to do with his time than filling in forms?
Er..not quite the same thing as RON was describing

RON,speaking from personal experience,no witness,s,no problem.I wouldnt lose any sleep over it geezer.
Old 02 April 2006, 03:07 AM
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Originally Posted by pete1977
Er..not quite the same thing as RON was describing

RON,speaking from personal experience,no witness,s,no problem.I wouldnt lose any sleep over it geezer.
Two vehicles in accident, no witnesses. Query over whether other driver will take action (in my case i did).

Whats yer problem sweetness?
Old 02 April 2006, 03:37 AM
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Originally Posted by brumdaisy
Two vehicles in accident, no witnesses. Query over whether other driver will take action (in my case i did).

Whats yer problem sweetness?
Its just that the story that RON told and the one you told arent really the same thing.Yours involved the police,insurance,damaged vehicle and cctv .RON,s doesnt have any of those,it wasnt even an accident ,it was a road rage incident.This makes a significant difference.Maybe you should read the thread again until it makes more sense,im sure you,ll get there in the end

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Originally Posted by pete1977
Its just that the story that RON told and the one you told arent really the same thing.Yours involved the police,insurance,damaged vehicle and cctv .RON,s doesnt have any of those,it wasnt even an accident ,it was a road rage incident.This makes a significant difference.Maybe you should read the thread again until it makes more sense,im sure you,ll get there in the end

Pete
The principle at the beginning is exactly the same . I simply told him my story to explain the potential implications should the other guy take action.

Which i think, its reasonable to assume, is why he posted obviously past ur bedtime but Im sure ron is deeply touched by ur concern.
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If there are no independant witnesses, you can forget it.

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Originally Posted by Bubba po
Nothing happened! FFS, some people don't have enough to worry about in ther lives. :S

Like sitting on here most of their lives
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Originally Posted by brumdaisy
obviously past ur bedtime but Im sure ron is deeply touched by ur concern.
i think 03.46 is past most peoples bed time you better have a good reason to be up girly, or your grounded
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Where do i stand if the cops turn up...??
by the sofa
Old 02 April 2006, 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Warwick-hunt
i think 03.46 is past most peoples bed time you better have a good reason to be up girly, or your grounded
Absolutely! I'd spent the day on the sofa fast asleep recovering from the night b4
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They probably turn up, but instead send a nip to you, asking for you to incriminate yourself by filling it in. This also unlikley to happen but if it does and the allegation is of dangerous/careless driving then seek specialist legal advice before speaking/writing/filling out nip/contact with police.

If the police do turn up, first ask the police, "Do you suspect me of committing a criminal offence"
if they say "yes"
reply by saying "I must be cautioned"
you will be cautioned " You have the right to remain silent, da da da........"

You then as the caution says you have the right to remain SILENT and do so

Then get legal traffic solicitor advice before making any comments.

Andy

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Originally Posted by Warwick-hunt
by the sofa
I'd hide behind it meself
Old 02 April 2006, 05:16 PM
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go on then, don't come out til thursday bye
Old 02 April 2006, 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by RON
Ooo, handgags at dawn..... some people have nothing to do but make worthless post on threads where someone was clearly concerned enough to ask a question.....
It's not a worthless post. Please explain to me what has happened that the police will be interested in pursuing.
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lol... anyone else find it strange thatyou believe you didnt do anything wrong and nothing happened yet your worried that the police will turn up on your doorstep and nick you? Get a grip If they do turn up it'll be to ask a couple of questions and find out what happened. Just give your side of the story and they'll say thanks for your time and wander off...

You didnt undertake by anychance did you
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Originally Posted by Bubba po
Nothing happened! FFS, some people don't have enough to worry about in ther lives. :S
Isn't that a bit pot/kettle for someone with 40,000 posts who spends his life on Scoobynet?

RON - deny everything, you weren't even there ;(
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Ron, i don't see what you have done to warrant being worried.

i sincerely hope you didn't get in front of the guy and slam your brakes on or something, especially with innocent kids involved.

i used to get into a right rage about people blocking the lanes, but now i sit back and chill, oh, and turn the music up.... (its called living longer and happier)

good luck

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Originally Posted by RON
Right, without going into too much detail, i was slightly involved in a road rage incident earlier.... i wasn't in the scoob, but my trusty old Rover 218 diesel.....
The other guy involved no doubt got my number plate, but i failed to get his, there was no contact, and we didn't stop... so if he was bothered enough to call the cops.... where would i stand if accused of lest say dangerous driving.... there would be no independant witnesses, as like i say, niether of us stopped..... in my book it was him who caused the incident, however doubtless he would see it the other way around....

All opinions welcome.... but preferably reliable ones......!
Doesn't posting something like this after midday on 1st April make you the fool rather then everyone else?

Just a thought.
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Originally Posted by brumdaisy
The principle at the beginning is exactly the same . I simply told him my story to explain the potential implications should the other guy take action.

Which i think, its reasonable to assume, is why he posted obviously past ur bedtime but Im sure ron is deeply touched by ur concern.
RON will not get done for anything.The police will not waste their time on the say so of another road user,with no witness,s,no cctv and no damage to the vehicle.He has nothing to worry about and will not get a visit off the police.
The guy in your case has caused damage to your vehicle and has probably got caught on CCTV.The potential implication here is that he will more than likely be visited by the police,possibly be charged,get points on his licence and more than likely his insurance will need to cough up.Now exactly how are the implications the same?


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