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Old 24 March 2006, 12:52 PM
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Old 24 March 2006, 12:55 PM
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Funny how they cut the windscreen in half rather than just smash it out
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now that would have been a funny thing for a home camcorder show!
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Originally Posted by Wurzel
Funny how they cut the windscreen in half rather than just smash it out
May sound mad, but there's a special saw you can get to cut windscreens..... it actually makes less mess than 'just smashing the screen'........ in most cases when it's done, there will be open wounds remember..!!
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Originally Posted by RON
May sound mad, but there's a special saw you can get to cut windscreens..... it actually makes less mess than 'just smashing the screen'........ in most cases when it's done, there will be open wounds remember..!!
Yup, last thing you want is the driver trapped in the drivers seat (obviously) and you go smashing the window screen in
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Originally Posted by RON
May sound mad, but there's a special saw you can get to cut windscreens..... it actually makes less mess than 'just smashing the screen'........ in most cases when it's done, there will be open wounds remember..!!
not wishing to contradict you, i thought they used a special cream/mousse on a windscreen first,then cut it, that way it doesn't shatter into a million and one peices

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I thought windscreens were laminated so when you have a crash / hit a pheasant / are unfortunate enough to knock someone over...the screen doesn't shatter like a scene from the house of flying daggers nor does it shatter like a door window kindly spraying the occupents with little pieces of glass travelling at 70mph straight into your eyes...itchy!!
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he forgot to mention its a convertible
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Windscreens are laminated, which is why they don't shatter these days.... but you do need to 'cut' the plastic film which is inbetween the two pieces of glass...... i've not seen/heard of a cream or mousse that can be used on screens... i cut a few in half mind you when i was a firefighter.....
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There was an interesting article in an american firefighters mag about the B pillars on Subaru cars which, it turns out, they can't cut with the normal cutting gear. They have discovered that there are 6 or 7 layers of exotic steel plus a large steel bar in there. This only applies to the more recent cars but they did document that a lot of Subaru drivers were surviving amazing side on impacts because of it.

So, if you are trapped in your new shape Subaru and the fireman is trying to hack through the B pillar redirect him to cut the roof around the pillar, he'll never get through the pillar itself.

A bit off topic i know, but interesting i thought.
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Windscreens are laminated, which is why they don't shatter these days.... but you do need to 'cut' the plastic film which is inbetween the two pieces of glass...... i've not seen/heard of a cream or mousse that can be used on screens... i cut a few in half mind you when i was a firefighter
I usually cut em with a stihl saw But a 9" grinder works well.. better if you can kick em out as one though

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We have a problem at work where we have been told they haven't got anything to cut the roofs off our armoured Range Rovers we use as ARV's!!! Great seeing as we've just had new gun safes put in between our armoured front seats stopping us crawling through there and can't wind down our armoured front windows!!!

And before anyone says it, we cant shoot our way out in an emergency!!!
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Hedgehog..... some modern cars have high tensile steel hoops in the pillars.... it doesn't do the cutters much good either!!!
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Gels or water are used to supress the glass dust produced when cutting the screens.
The screen is only cut as low as is necessary. The reason for the A post being left at that height is incase the dash needs to be 'rolled' where a relief cut is made at either side at the sill and a ram is place in between the A and B post and they are pushed away.
I have taken the roof off an MY04 Scoob no probs. I can only assume that the problems were had using a combi tool as opposed to dedicated cutters.
I think I would have been tempted to use a KED to get the guy out of the Jag as opposed to hacking the poor guys roof off.
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